Non-Flanged PHOENiX Raven Tank Cartomizers Now Available

[yiddleboge6]

ok I'm sold. now where's the best place to buy them, any Canadian venders by chance? if not, not a deal breaker...

LOL....You are in the vendor's forum for whom the raven carto's were developed.........GotVapes

And here is where to buy them

GotVapes PHOENiX Raven™ BC Tank CARTO 2.4-2.6ohm - NON-FLANGED [gv-PhoenixRaven-RepCarto-NonFlng] - $2.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[nelsonm64]

LOL....You are in the vendor's forum for whom the raven carto's were developed.........GotVapes

And here is where to buy them

GotVapes PHOENiX Raven™ BC Tank CARTO 2.4-2.6ohm - NON-FLANGED [gv-PhoenixRaven-RepCarto-NonFlng] - $2.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

didn't realize this was the vendors forum! I came across this thread in a google search, sorry....

 

[yiddleboge6]

didn't realize this was the vendors forum! I came across this thread in a google search, sorry....

Apologies aren't needed....you asked where to buy them...so I explained

Many of the registered suppliers on ECF have sub-forums....GotVapes is one of them.


Welcome to GotVapes corner of ECF !!!

 

[nelsonm64]

we had them go further on the latest batch so they will fit better in the agr but now we are also testing the new agr to make sure they fit there too.

these dont use mesh like the smoktech but even those , we have sold so many and they are doing very well with minimal issues either.

can you let me know after you try the new batch on the AGR 2, i want to place an order but i'll wait till they're agr 2 tested

 

[sfeltch]

Flooded in my AGR tank. Leaked out the bottom. Had to remove it and replace with my Boges. Hated to do that but had no choice. any sugggestions?

 

[rdsok]

Flooded in my AGR tank. Leaked out the bottom. Had to remove it and replace with my Boges. Hated to do that but had no choice. any sugggestions?

I'd hoped that someone with more experience with the Raven as well as the AGR tank had answered... but perhaps just some tech info can help you find a possible solution. I don't have an AGR, so I'll assume you've assembled it correctly with the Raven ( one user had not that I can recall ). I'll also assume it just isn't one bad Raven, it does happen but not a lot, obviously none of the following would take that into account. So in short, these are only some of the possible causes when nothing is technically wrong with the AGR or Raven itself.

Hot weather will make many atty's, carto's, clearo's and tanks leak simply because the warmer a liquid gets, the thinner it is and the easier it flows. So if it was hot where you were at... try it in a cooler location. I've had several of other types of vaporizers, when left in a hot car... start leaking.

A thin ( viscosity wise ) liquid in general will leak more than a thicker one. While we usually just think of the PG/VG ratio when trying to determine the thickness of a juice... other factors such as added ingredients like distilled water or alcohol which are commonly used to thin a juice can also come into play.

When filling a tank... you also must take care to not accidentally pressurize a tank using a bottom coil designed carto. On the AGR, you should simply be able to open the top fill screw to help lose any excess pressure it may have. This next part will sound a little odd after that last comment... but if you remove the drip tip, and invert the tank ( use a napkin on the top to catch any juice ) and gently blow into the bottom connector... it can also help "reset" the carto itself and get rid of any excess juice that may cause it to gurgle etc.

Overall, what I've experienced and what others have reported about the Ravens... you should expect more flavor than compared to a standard fiberfil type of carto. The reports overall have been very favorable. If you got more than one, try the other Raven to see if it was simply a "bad" one that you had tried first... if you didn't get but the one, don't give up on them... it still may end up being a favorite for you.

 

[zipflint]

That was probably me. I couldn't get a non-flanged Raven to fit into the locking portion of the AGR.
I eventually got an X8 tank and a Raven's Nest tank and have been using those with great success.
I know that doesn't help much....but there ya go.

I don't have an AGR, so I'll assume you've assembled it correctly with the Raven ( one user had not that I can recall ).

 

[rdsok]

That was probably me. I couldn't get a non-flanged Raven to fit into the locking portion of the AGR.
I eventually got an X8 tank and a Raven's Nest tank and have been using those with great success.
I know that doesn't help much....but there ya go.

Question then... Do you feel that the Raven would have leaked in a manner similar to what sfetch had described... had you gone ahead and used it with an AGR tank?

I recall that badkola had mentioned that they ( the makers of the Raven's ) were going to make a minor adjustment on the Raven to address the issue seen with tanks like the AGR... I'm not sure if the current stock has that yet... or if it's a future version.

 

[zipflint]

Hmmm....maybe. You already addressed the issue of pressure and how that can cause a leak. MY problem was lots of dry hits, even
after primer pulls. I think the only time I had a leak from a Raven was when I was using the original tank and filled it to the brim and then shoved the drip tip on. That'll probably cause a leak every time, in anything.
That's how boneheaded I can be though.

Question then... Do you feel that the Raven would have leaked in a manner similar to what sfetch had described... had you gone ahead and used it with an AGR tank?

I recall that badkola had mentioned that they ( the makers of the Raven's ) were going to make a minor adjustment on the Raven to address the issue seen with tanks like the AGR... I'm not sure if the current stock has that yet... or if it's a future version.

 

[all_in_ashes]

Hot weather will make many atty's, carto's, clearo's and tanks leak simply because the warmer a liquid gets, the thinner it is and the easier it flows. So if it was hot where you were at... try it in a cooler location. I've had several of other types of vaporizers, when left in a hot car... start leaking.

I've had this issue with my Ravens in the recent 100+ heat in SoCal...They work like a champ in my nice air conditioned man-cave, but things can get a bit dicey when I'm using it outside at work or leave it in the car. For the life of me, I can't recall whether I've had this issue with other cartos. Cheers!

 

[sfeltch]

Well, as soon as I get more juice in the mail, I'm going to give it a try again. Here is what I did.

1) Sanded the flange down so the raven would fit my AGR. And it was a non-flange Raven. The slight flange prevented the raven from installing.
2)dropped 3 drops down the carto for priming.
3) I didnt fill the tank full. 3/4 full. I didnt fill through the fill hole, I filled with the top off. Then removed the fill screw and placed the top on. Relieving pressure in the tank slowly.
4) Started vaping. It worked wonderful. I loved it. Packed up my cartos and placed them in the drawer.

Next day, Juice all over the 510 connection. Gurgled from flooding. Blew it out from the bottom in hope of clearing it. Still gurgled. Vaped a bit hoping it would go away. No luck. Oddly enough I had the same scenario with the Lava Tank.

I'm telling you I really want these to work and will give it a try again. Just wish it wasnt so temperamental.

 

[Adrena]

Satchel when I read this it looks to my like your 3/4 of a tank did not the an air/pressure lock needed.
Take this set up and fill it full through the fill hole. Set the unit in a shot glass of some such in a safe place over night. See if it's flooded/leaking in the morn...

Temperamental is not a word I would see as possible with a raven carto? Not saying you can't say that I just can't see it. Let me know how it goes Please...

 

[keelalagirl55]

I know others have said to prime these with a few drops....I have never primed a singe one.....hasn't needed it.

Also, when you do have gurgling....don't blow through the bottom.....turn it upside down with the connector facing the ceiling (gonna be an awkward position for a spell), cover it with a tissue, and blow from the mouthpiece. If you blow through the bottom, air is going into the tank as well....setting the pressure off again, I believe. The only time I've had gurgling is when I have filled the tank and some juice went down into the carto (another reason I don't prime )

 

[sfeltch]

Alright Adrena.... you got me biting again. Dumped my juice from the AGR and cleaned it. Filed down the lip on the non-flange Raven carto. Assembled the tank completely with carto installed. Removed the fill hole screw and filled the way intended by the manufacturer through the fill hole with needle. Set in a small shot glass to see if it floods during assembly.

No current evidence of liquid or moisture anywhere on the 510 heads or anywhere else for that matter. Should be ready to roll, but will wait till morning to view it, since it happened overnight the 1st time.

My apologies if I offended anyone with my term "temperamental" I know everyone is working on producing a fine product and I really want to see them succeed. Hopefully this is something I am doing wrong that just doesnt work with the Raven and I can figure it out, with the forums help.

If they work in a locking carto tank I'm ready to buy more!

 

[Adrena]

Alright Adrena.... you got me biting again. Dumped my juice from the AGR and cleaned it. Filed down the lip on the non-flange Raven carto. Assembled the tank completely with carto installed. Removed the fill hole screw and filled the way intended by the manufacturer through the fill hole with needle. Set in a small shot glass to see if it floods during assembly.

No current evidence of liquid or moisture anywhere on the 510 heads or anywhere else for that matter. Should be ready to roll, but will wait till morning to view it, since it happened overnight the 1st time.

My apologies if I offended anyone with my term "temperamental" I know everyone is working on producing a fine product and I really want to see them succeed. Hopefully this is something I am doing wrong that just doesnt work with the Raven and I can figure it out, with the forums help.

If they work in a locking carto tank I'm ready to buy more!

Nope not offended just curious... Good luck to you, I do hope it works out well for you.

 

[sfeltch]

Update....!

No liquid in the shotglass at all. Barely enough on the 510 connection to exist on my finger when wiping across the connection. I have an hour ride to work and vaped it on the way, loaded the AGR on my ego -c twist and still vaping at work. All is working well right now. I am appreciative of the help I've received here getting this resolved. I'm still not sure why I had issues with 3 different Raven cartos and 2 different tanks, but I'll keep an eye on it and try to figure it out. As I stated in my original review on Gotvapes website regarding the Ravens still stands. I'll be retiring my "normal" cartos and buying these Ravens as I am extremely happy with the design concept not to mention the favor and the quality vape I am getting from them.

Special thanks to Adrena for pushing me on and the wonderful direction. Definitely wouldnt have done another try last night without it.

Now....when are we going to see non flange cartos we dont have to grind for the AGR? And do the flanged Ravens fit the UDCT Tanks?

 

[sfeltch]

keelalagirl55. I want you to know I will be trying that method to resolve gurgle issue. Your post didnt go unread!!!!!!!

Thank You!

 

[yiddleboge6]

Now....when are we going to see non flange cartos we dont have to grind for the AGR? And do the flanged Ravens fit the UDCT Tanks?

Hopefully real soon...they're working on it for us all. No the flanged ravens will not fit in the UDCT tanks. they require a carto with flat sides to the flange to lock it in....and even if you flatten two sides...the circumference of the raven flange is too large......I tried it

 

[sfeltch]

Wasnt sure about the circumference, thank you for the answer, looking for more options.

 

[VapingTurtle]

Wasnt sure about the circumference, thank you for the answer, looking for more options.

The perfect option is the SMOKtech Nickel Mesh DCT-2-A, but it is currently sold out. More are no doubt on the wing.

But I do want to caution you about seeking out the Nickel Mesh cartos at other vendors. There are more than one version, and the first version is, eh, not so good. Other vendors may or may not have the good ones. GotVapes waited for revisions and got the good ones.