Non-smoker thinking of vaping
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As you can see, many of us began vaping to quit smoking; as much as we enjoy vaping, we are puzzled that someone would choose to engage in a potentially addictive behavior unnecessarily. Most of us vape so that we can not smoke - vaping was, for us, a way out of a dangerous habit. And some of us have worked hard to reduce or eliminate nic. If you are committed to using nic, start at 3 MG. Any nic level will be discernible to someone who has never used it. But why not start at 0 and see if you even like vaping? That way, you won't risk an addiction.
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Or why not just not start at all?
Absolutely no justifiable reason for the OP to vape or for others to entertain the question and support the notion.
As others have said, there are better, less harmful ways to improve focus. See what I did there? Less harmful, which is why smokers and former smokers vape. The only thing less harmful than vaping is not vaping.
Most, if not all vapers support THR so I find it unsettling that any vaper would encourage a non-smoker to start vaping - for any reason.
Absolutely no justifiable reason for the OP to vape or for others to entertain the question and support the notion.
As others have said, there are better, less harmful ways to improve focus. See what I did there? Less harmful, which is why smokers and former smokers vape. The only thing less harmful than vaping is not vaping.
Most, if not all vapers support THR so I find it unsettling that any vaper would encourage a non-smoker to start vaping - for any reason.
Find some other way to focus your concentration. Or, talk to a licensed therapist or other professional to see if you have ADD. I have it and smoking cigs or vaping never did anything for it.
You have to figure out the best way for you to absorb the material. For me, repeating the material out loud and coming up with acronyms to remember different steps in a procedure works. There is no reason for a healthy young person to pick up an addictive and costly habit so I urge you not to start vaping. I'm only doing it to keep from smoking.
I smoked for over 20 years and use 12mg nicotine going in to my fourth week of vaping. That much nicotine will have you ready to pass out! I never got a buzz from smoking and don't try to get one from vaping. You don't want a "high" from it because it feels like crap!
I don't believe it will help you study but the decision is yours to make. Best of luck to you.
You have to figure out the best way for you to absorb the material. For me, repeating the material out loud and coming up with acronyms to remember different steps in a procedure works. There is no reason for a healthy young person to pick up an addictive and costly habit so I urge you not to start vaping. I'm only doing it to keep from smoking.
I smoked for over 20 years and use 12mg nicotine going in to my fourth week of vaping. That much nicotine will have you ready to pass out! I never got a buzz from smoking and don't try to get one from vaping. You don't want a "high" from it because it feels like crap!
I don't believe it will help you study but the decision is yours to make. Best of luck to you.
I read that 40% of people that smoke are people with some type of addiction or mental issue. It is the use to temporarily get the mind away from something. The thought of, handling, and temporary change of thought is really an outlet.
As to starting to vape, I would look to finding the underlying reason. You mentioned focusing, I don't think vaping is the answer.
IMHO
As to starting to vape, I would look to finding the underlying reason. You mentioned focusing, I don't think vaping is the answer.
IMHO
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"There is no reason for a healthy young person to pick up an addictive and costly habit so I urge you not to start" SMOKING.
To the op , as others have mentioned seeking external distractions is not the best way to focus on the task in hand.
if you do intend to take up vaping you could make it a meditation ritual something like a tea ceremony where every action is focussed and practised in a totally concious mindful way.
this need not include nicotine which besides being a stimulant also acts as a relaxant , depending on dosage.
"There is no reason for a healthy young person to pick up an addictive and costly habit so I urge you not to start" SMOKING.
To the op , as others have mentioned seeking external distractions is not the best way to focus on the task in hand.
if you do intend to take up vaping you could make it a meditation ritual something like a tea ceremony where every action is focussed and practised in a totally concious mindful way.
this need not include nicotine which besides being a stimulant also acts as a relaxant , depending on dosage.
I have to agree with a lot of others here; if you've had no nicotine in your system, then why put it there now?
Vaping has helped a lot of us smokers cut down and/or eventually quit, but to start vaping for a calming and focusing effect seems odd and ill advised. There are plenty other ways to achieve the same effect; breathing exercises, meditation, just listening to your favorite music can all achieve the same results.
Sure there are a lot of delicious flavors available, but the same tastes can be had from hard candies, with much cheaper and longer lasting results.
Just my 2 cents anyway.
Vaping has helped a lot of us smokers cut down and/or eventually quit, but to start vaping for a calming and focusing effect seems odd and ill advised. There are plenty other ways to achieve the same effect; breathing exercises, meditation, just listening to your favorite music can all achieve the same results.
Sure there are a lot of delicious flavors available, but the same tastes can be had from hard candies, with much cheaper and longer lasting results.
Just my 2 cents anyway.
Vaping is actually an inconvenient pain in the ars that most of us endure out of necessity because we spent decades smoking tobacco.
Smoking is much more convenient than vaping, actually. Just a pack of smokes and a lighter vs all this friggin' gear and juice and chargers and junk.
If you do start vaping (which I do NOT recommend for non-smokers) then be careful that once hooked you don't start just reaching for a cig instead out of convenience, like my little nephew did who started vaping and is now smoking tobacco instead 'cause its easier/more convenient.
Don't develop this new vape habit only to end up a smoker. There's a real danger of that happening.
In fact I'd recommend you don't start vaping at all.
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Smoking is much more convenient than vaping, actually. Just a pack of smokes and a lighter vs all this friggin' gear and juice and chargers and junk.
If you do start vaping (which I do NOT recommend for non-smokers) then be careful that once hooked you don't start just reaching for a cig instead out of convenience, like my little nephew did who started vaping and is now smoking tobacco instead 'cause its easier/more convenient.
Don't develop this new vape habit only to end up a smoker. There's a real danger of that happening.
In fact I'd recommend you don't start vaping at all.
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That is internet myth.About the addiction part.I never realized I was addicted to nicotine until it was too late.
That is not a myth and you should really look up the science. There is not a single study in this world that links nicotine to any kind of addiction in never smokers without the presence of tobacco.
And further more, nicotine does in fact help with focus as well as many other things.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/news/20021023/harnessing-nicotines-power
I really don't believe that to pick up vaping, one should have to be a member of some ex-smokers club. A lot of the comments I'm reading in this thread is no better then the ANTZ misinformation. By carrying the belief that you shouldn't vape unless you are a smoker, there will always be cigarettes. If we want cigarettes to fall from the face of this earth one day, we should be encouraging vaping.
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Coming from a non smoker, dont do the nicotine. I accidentally picked up some 6mg and thought it wouldnt be bad, but boy was i wrong (maybe im just a wimp) it was not an enjoyable experience at all and i ended up giving the juice away. I didnt like the throat hit, and i didnt like the sore throat afterwards, to me it wasn't relaxing in any way.
But i like vaping for the desert and candy flavors and has helped to cut down on junk food big time, honestly get 0mg juice and get the hang of it before going further.
But i like vaping for the desert and candy flavors and has helped to cut down on junk food big time, honestly get 0mg juice and get the hang of it before going further.
Well, as I have explained in the other non-smoker thread, I haven't smoked in 42 years and when I started in December it was with the Vuse (45mg). Yes I did get a very satisfying buzz (not like being high, but it did have a lot of euphoric content). I got a prettu heavy throat hit, but my throat was fine. The next day, I had a bit of lung congestion but it didn't last too long. I vaped about a month and then took a few weeks off. I've been vaping again for about a month. I've tried other strengths, but I am now at 4.8% (48 mg) and I haven't experienced any bad effects, unless if you believe that an intensification of alcohol induced euphoria is a 'bad effect'
BTW, the reason I started vaping was for cognitive improvement that nicotine produces. It would be foolhardy to vape for nicotine benefits and not actually use nicotine.I have never smoked, and started vaping about 9 months ago and it has been a very enjoyable experience. I wanted to try it to see if I got a calming effect out of it and was also thinking if I learned more about it I could help advise smokers on the switch as there is so much information out there it can be overwhelming, and has been said it is physically easier to grab a pack of smokes.
I started with 12mg juice and a basic ego kit from a gas station because it was cheap, and just to see if I enjoyed it. At first I wasn't able to inhale as it was just too weird as a nonsmoker, but I got an effect just from drawing it into my mouth and exhaling. The flavor was interesting and I got a slight buzz from the nicotine, and just blowing clouds was very calming.
Then I got better equipment and better juice and the experience became more enjoyable, I could cool the vape down and then it was easier to inhale and the flavors better. I started vaping 6mg juice to experiment with flavors as at 12mg I had to stop when I started feeling the nicotine or I would get sick. Once I found some flavors I really liked I ordered them in 12mg and was happy with that. At 6mg I could chain vape and not feel much of anything.
Then I got into dripping atomizers and now the subtank at higher wattage for the massive flavor boost and had to step down to 6mg but the nicotine at that level even added a unpleasant taste in those devices. Now I am enjoying 3mg juice in those devices.
If you are looking for an effect with those lower wattage devices I would suggest starting with 12mg, if you just want to enjoy the flavor and blow clouds try 6mg to start.
Also, I don't notice an addiction, I can go all day at work and not need a vape, I can and have stopped for days and not need a vape. To me it's just something I miss because I enjoy the experience, not unlike anything else I do for a hobby.
I don't feel like I am any more likely to pick up a cigarette than I ever was, not ever going to happen because it is proven so unhealthy and I don't think I could ever get over that smell being in my mouth.
I started with 12mg juice and a basic ego kit from a gas station because it was cheap, and just to see if I enjoyed it. At first I wasn't able to inhale as it was just too weird as a nonsmoker, but I got an effect just from drawing it into my mouth and exhaling. The flavor was interesting and I got a slight buzz from the nicotine, and just blowing clouds was very calming.
Then I got better equipment and better juice and the experience became more enjoyable, I could cool the vape down and then it was easier to inhale and the flavors better. I started vaping 6mg juice to experiment with flavors as at 12mg I had to stop when I started feeling the nicotine or I would get sick. Once I found some flavors I really liked I ordered them in 12mg and was happy with that. At 6mg I could chain vape and not feel much of anything.
Then I got into dripping atomizers and now the subtank at higher wattage for the massive flavor boost and had to step down to 6mg but the nicotine at that level even added a unpleasant taste in those devices. Now I am enjoying 3mg juice in those devices.
If you are looking for an effect with those lower wattage devices I would suggest starting with 12mg, if you just want to enjoy the flavor and blow clouds try 6mg to start.
Also, I don't notice an addiction, I can go all day at work and not need a vape, I can and have stopped for days and not need a vape. To me it's just something I miss because I enjoy the experience, not unlike anything else I do for a hobby.
I don't feel like I am any more likely to pick up a cigarette than I ever was, not ever going to happen because it is proven so unhealthy and I don't think I could ever get over that smell being in my mouth.
For the OP's purpose, that wouldn't make much sense. The absorption of nicotine buccally is pretty poor, if you were going to do that you would want to use a nicotine concentration of at least 10%. For the cognitive improvement the OP is looking for, I'd recommend at least 3% inhaled vapor, no more than 4-7 drags every two hours or more. This is what is working for me.
I don't think we need a study to prove that the act of vaping and fixing gear is a distraction, tho
I'm not against nonsmokers starting to vape. I just don't want them to do it for 'the wrong reasons'. Which is arrogant of me, I know.
Not that I have any science to back it up... but I have a hard time believing nicotine helps more with focusing than, say, simple breathing exercises or even a nice cup of tea.
Let me put it in terms of (laymans) game theory.
Vaping may give a desired effect. It may also be more harmful than breathing clean air - whatever that may be. One (possible!) positive effect - one (possible!) negative effect. End result is that you have introduced a 'neutral' into your life.
Compared to trying to achieve better focus by learning simple breathing exercises or brewing a pot of tea. You have introduced a 'positive' in your life. With tea, maybe doubly so if you consider the health benefits.
What's the point of 'neutrals' when you can get the same result from a 'positive'? Or even a double positive?
I think my whole point is: If OP wants to start vaping, he should do so because he wants to - not because there is some magical effect that makes studying easier.
I know I'm howling at the wind here. Trying to rationalize a very much emotional choice. Guess I'm doing it more for my own sake then OPs.
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Nicotine does not cause physical dependence and it causes no more psychological than does, er... McDonald's french fries (which are a lot worse for you)! There is no good reason not to use nicotine if you are in reasonably good cardiopulmonary shape. The cognitive improvement effects are there, even if it turns out that they are a placebo effect (which, is a REAL effect, BTW)
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