Zero nicotine means zero cognitive improvement. I can't believe the number of people who post here that actually still believe that nicotine is addicting. There is almost zero evidence for that!
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Zero nicotine means zero cognitive improvement. I can't believe the number of people who post here that actually still believe that nicotine is addicting. There is almost zero evidence for that!
I doubt that that will happen if judgement is exercised, and even if it does and if nicotine IS good for you, why should it matter?
Physical dependence on nicotine has not been satisfactorily demonstrated using any animal or human model with credibility. There is plenty of research but you won't find it in a vaper's forum.
I don't know how to reverence other trhrads, but if you search for my user name in the Beginners Forum you will get the thread. I don't want to repeat everything here.
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Yes, but unfortunately, amphetamine without a prescription is illegal.
Nicotine is addictive and there is a lot of evidence for that, but it's also a benign and beneficial substance when separated from carcinogens.
Caffeine is both highly addictive and highly beneficial too. I'm addicted to caffeine and nicotine but its benefits far outweigh the drawbacks.
There is a great deal of credible real research by real scientists who aren't living lives of superstition. I am offended that you would suggest that I shouldn't encourage the OP when, in fact, it is exactly what I am doing after quitting smoking over 42 years ago from a 2 P/D usage. I will continue to encourage the use of nicotine for cognitive enhancement. I lecture my students about the benefits of using nicotine, and many of the students working in my lab are trying it out. Read this article Nicotine, the Wonder Drug? | DiscoverMagazine.com, it will make most of the salient points in favor of nicotine usage.
If there was an abundance of conclusive research, vaping forums is one of the places you'd find'em linked.
Which cognitive benefits are unique to nicotine? Improved focus is not one of them.
And... is inhalation with a concoction of other substances the only way of achieving these benefits?
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Because it is good for you, can improve cognitive performance, might increase your GPA, leads to better performance on exams, all seem to be a pretty good reasons to me.
Some good info here on nicotine:
All You Need To Know About Nicotine
Nicotine Propaganda
The Great Nicotine Myth
And please watch the discussion or mentions of "other stuff"... it's not permitted here, legal or not. Thanks!
All You Need To Know About Nicotine
Nicotine Propaganda
The Great Nicotine Myth
And please watch the discussion or mentions of "other stuff"... it's not permitted here, legal or not. Thanks!
No it isn't. No credible empirical research has ever demonstrated nicotine to produce physiological dependence. Rats won't learn to self administer it, and people have been given smoking simulating levels for long periods of time (90 days) with no symptoms of withdrawal. You were only addicted to nicotine because you believed you were and because you have a lot of corroboration from others who also believed they were addicted. The statement that is in the text I'm using in my Neurochemistry, Pharmacology and Behavior class "Nicotine is probably the world's most addicting drug" is, from a science viepoint rubbish. I have asjed the publisher to edit out the statement because it is not based on fact.
Sonicdsl has some good links. Going by what the majority of people are saying here, we better stop feeding baby food to babies, eating vegetables, ketchup or taking vitamin B3.
Many things can cause DEPENDENCE, doesn't mean they're going to ruin your life even if it did. What is the harm of being dependent on something that is no more harmful to your body than everything else in life?
Many things can cause DEPENDENCE, doesn't mean they're going to ruin your life even if it did. What is the harm of being dependent on something that is no more harmful to your body than everything else in life?
I've never had a drink of alcohol in my life but I am thinking about taking it up so I'll be sharper when I drive and work NOT!
I've read those links that Sonicdsl linked a couple of days ago, and from what the research says nicotine is not dependence forming unless it is combined with the boosters and what not that are packed in cigarettes.
We are doing exactly the same wrong as has been done in regards to nicotine and smoking for all these years. We equate vaping with nicotine. Nicotine is nicotine. Vaping is vaping. You can have one without the other.
Nicotine is in everyone, it's in so many foods it cannot be avoided. You might be avoiding nicotine in your vapor, but you'll be eating.
I am an old ex smoker. I started vaping to change the way I receive nicotine. I will say that after reading tons of threads on here and in other forums that it seems that the people that use it to stop smoking and cut back on their nicotine seem to vape way more than I do a day LOL so in reality they still get the same amount of nicotine. I do mean most and not all. I do about a ml a day of 18mg nic. People say well you should cut that down and I think to myself - why so I can do more vaping?? Not gonna happen I am happy with the amount I do now - so why change it. Anyway OP if you are wanting nicotine benefits get a few different strengths plus some 0 nic and see which does what for you - just keep in mind that it can take up to 30 minutes for effects and it will depend on how much you do at a time also. Good Luck
If you're really just looking for an effective nicotine delivery system, might I suggest nasal snuff as an alternative to consider.
A lot of the argument to support vaping is that it's a safe(r) alternative to smoking cigarettes. As we're mostly former smokers, considering there are still a lot of 'unknowns' regarding the long-term impact, at least for now, it seems a good gamble that vaping won't kill us any sooner than continued smoking would. But most of us who enjoy vaping do so not just for the nicotine, but to satisfy the 'habit' (ie, oral/manual fixation, throat hit, tightness in the chest, etc). And some of us are 'tinkerers' who find fun in experimenting with different coil builds, etc. And then there are those who just like to blow big clouds.
But since you're not in any of these categories, and are looking to nicotine to give you 'focus', it seems to me there might be better ways to do it.
Nasal snuff is:
* Effective at delivering nicotine - You lightly sniff a small amount of ground tobacco. The nicotine is absorbed in the mucous membranes in the nose. In my experience, it's not as fast as cigarettes, but faster than vaping.
* Discrete - You can take snuff just about anywhere without anyone knowing. No plumes of smoke or vapor to worry about.
* Easy to carry - I keep a small 10g tin in my pocket, slightly larger than an Oreo cookie. If I filled it, it would last me several weeks. But I only carry a few days worth because I like to change flavors/scents every few days.
* Cheap - 1. There's no upfront investment in hardware. No mods. No batteries. No chargers. No wire. No tools. 2. I just spent ~$60 on what will likely last me the rest of the year. Compare that to what I spend on e-juice!
* Less of a health risk (probably) - Nasal snuff has been in use in Europe since the 17th century. In that time, there have been no insurance claims or lawsuits regarding snuff use and any cancer. Several studies have concluded that there is no causal link between use of dry, nasal snuff and cancer.(You should Google/research this yourself.)
I use nasal snuff at work and any other situation where vaping isn't cool. I vape while driving, at home (when my wife and daughter aren't around) or if out with the guys.
The only downside to using snuff has been that I have to carry a handkerchief with me everywhere, all the time, to wipe the dust of my nose and just in case I get into a sneezing fit. But I think all gentlemen should be in the habit of carrying a 'pocket square' anyway, so it's not a big deal.
A lot of the argument to support vaping is that it's a safe(r) alternative to smoking cigarettes. As we're mostly former smokers, considering there are still a lot of 'unknowns' regarding the long-term impact, at least for now, it seems a good gamble that vaping won't kill us any sooner than continued smoking would. But most of us who enjoy vaping do so not just for the nicotine, but to satisfy the 'habit' (ie, oral/manual fixation, throat hit, tightness in the chest, etc). And some of us are 'tinkerers' who find fun in experimenting with different coil builds, etc. And then there are those who just like to blow big clouds.
But since you're not in any of these categories, and are looking to nicotine to give you 'focus', it seems to me there might be better ways to do it.
Nasal snuff is:
* Effective at delivering nicotine - You lightly sniff a small amount of ground tobacco. The nicotine is absorbed in the mucous membranes in the nose. In my experience, it's not as fast as cigarettes, but faster than vaping.
* Discrete - You can take snuff just about anywhere without anyone knowing. No plumes of smoke or vapor to worry about.
* Easy to carry - I keep a small 10g tin in my pocket, slightly larger than an Oreo cookie. If I filled it, it would last me several weeks. But I only carry a few days worth because I like to change flavors/scents every few days.
* Cheap - 1. There's no upfront investment in hardware. No mods. No batteries. No chargers. No wire. No tools. 2. I just spent ~$60 on what will likely last me the rest of the year. Compare that to what I spend on e-juice!
* Less of a health risk (probably) - Nasal snuff has been in use in Europe since the 17th century. In that time, there have been no insurance claims or lawsuits regarding snuff use and any cancer. Several studies have concluded that there is no causal link between use of dry, nasal snuff and cancer.(You should Google/research this yourself.)
I use nasal snuff at work and any other situation where vaping isn't cool. I vape while driving, at home (when my wife and daughter aren't around) or if out with the guys.
The only downside to using snuff has been that I have to carry a handkerchief with me everywhere, all the time, to wipe the dust of my nose and just in case I get into a sneezing fit. But I think all gentlemen should be in the habit of carrying a 'pocket square' anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Craft Beer has some amazing health benefits from the LIVE yeast and complex vitamins. I drink two beers a day on average and haven't had even a flu virus in a decade. (no flu shots here). Its also a great mosquito repellent without spraying chemicals all over you. Drinkers have also been proven to live longer then non drinkers.
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