Non-Smoker wanting to vape?

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Roszam

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Hello all,

I have never smoked anything be it illegal or legal. And I have recently become quite intrigued about e cigs. I am currently at a college with a lot of smokers and that may be the reason, but none the less i want to get some opinions on this. I am curious how a cigarette tastes. But do not want to try one because of the nic and all the other bad things in them. So i was looking into a Blu ecig with the 0 nic cartage. I would vape only for the flavor and social aspect. Please let me know your opinions on this, i know it is very controversial.

Thanks! :blush:

I would say if you have never smoked, don't start vaping. Keep habits, especially those which can turn into very expensive hobbies, at bay!
 

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I am going to be maybe a little stronger than most - I am assuming you are a young person.intelligent (since you posted this) and of consenting age since you are on this forum and most vendors wont sell to you if not ( I wish some were even more stringent with this..nother topic..)

Let me ask you a question.. If given the choice to live free (as in unbound).. in modest surroundings vs. live in a prison (that is a bit more accommodating than a 10 x 16 cell with bars) but a prison none-the-less ..which would you choose?

You are free...why volunteer to walk into a prison?.. it's not the nic.. many can get past that part.. it is the behavioral pattern that is by far the most difficult for many to break ..

There are probably thousands of people on this forum who started smoking "out of curiosity".. like you said - "it killed the cat".. it also killed my Father and many other's loved ones..

Be Free .. live free... Smoking or Vaping are not near as "cool" as being free of the addiction - of any kind.. you can believe that no matter what anyone tells you

Don't want to preach at you...

It's your choice.. what ya gonna do?


EDIT: and before some one comes back and says .."he/she only wants to try it".. "does not have to become a habit" or "smoking is not the same as vaping".. I simply say - 1) Trying is a doorway.. 2). Correct.. but there is a significant chance it will and .. 3). Correct... We don't really know what vaping is.. we only suspect and speculate .. it could be far worse than smoking..

Frankly, I think we have a responsibility in this community when we see post like this to vehemently discourage the individual from starting the activity - Yes it is their choice.. but we should have enough compassion and care for another human being to not assist them in potentially putting shackles on their lives.. YMMV... but i really don't care

Thank you for your response, and i am very sorry to hear about your father. Though i have not made by decision yet, i am very persuaded now not to start vaping. Thank you all again.
 

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i use 0nic and make my own stuff using pharecutical grade stuff from hosptials and pharmacies that have said it poses no health risks through inhalation. but even then , i wouldnt start if its because your surrounded by smokers. the likely hood of you enjoying vaping is high . but then so is the " well i like this , why not try a real cig". college , peer pressure. hell i aint smoked in 3mnths but i still think the smell around people smoking is to die for haha. id hate to hear of someone starting vaping , that then makes them start smoking real cigs :(.

youll likely get a lot of people saying yeahhh do it , vapings great and all that jazz. but its because these people , myself include are just overwhelmed to be off real cigs. giving the choice would i do neither , hell yes i would. im caught u in the habbit. thats tough to break. i went 3 months without a cig or a vape , but i just couldnt get rid of that habbit of going through the motions of smoking. people will say that ohh it was the nicotine that relaxed you when you were stressed , when your football team loses and it drives you crazy you have a cig and feel better. thats horse c*** its going through the process of taking yourself out of the situation , going outside in the cold lighting up your cig and taking in a deep breath. thats what relaxes you. so i took up vaping , to give me back that action. and its no suprise that all of a sudden im not getting as wound up or fustrated. yet im using no nicotine.......


the choice is yours ofcourse .
 
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My 2cents, If you start vaping even with 0% nic you will undoubtibly go for nice flavours, (which arnt even that great, you can find nicer chewing gum)
So my personal OPINION is that eventually we will find out that some of the flavouring (especially artificial ones) and colourings in ejuice are very harmfull, as they are food flavourings they have only been tested by digestion, and when you leave something in stomach acid for any length of time its normally quite a different chemical than when you started, we do not know the effects of some of these flavouring when they are inhaled directly into lung tissue and thats the simple fact,

If i was you I would instead be the quirky one of the group that wears mad hats or jewlery and dosnt smoke / vape but is always the funny bubbly one thats the life of the party.
 

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For myself the reason I was able to quit smoking with an e-cig over any other method was because it satisfied the ritualistic behavior of smoking. I'm guessing the vast majority of vapers in this forum who also were able to quit smoking would agree that it's the physical act of vaping that simulates smoking which helped far above any other method.

I've heard at least one person mention since you aren't planning on using nicotine you won't be in danger of addiction. That's not only ridiculous, I think it's dangerous advice. You will develop the hand to mouth habit and the ritual of smoking. There's a good chance one day down the road you'll meet other vapers who are using nicotine and possibly taste their juice and get your first taste of nicotine.

I also saw someone post that there's absolutely no health risk in vaping. THAT IS ALSO WRONG! There have been no complete studies on vaping, and even if they began doing studies there are so many factors in e-cigs (wick/filler materials, flavorings etc...) that there will most likely NEVER be a time when a study comes out that claims there is NO health risk in vaping regardless of nicotine content.

I understand what it's like when you're young and tempted to smoke because you are around smokers. Just keep in mind that sometime in the future, maybe a few years, maybe decades. Some, if not all of those friends you have who are smoking are going to wish they had never lit that first cigarette.
 

Occlamito

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Starting or willing to smoke for the "social aspect" is a no go my friend. I did the same mistake 15 years ago and now i`m vaping after i smoked for 14 years analogs..
So do not wonder what the people around you think because you are not smoking cause it doesn't make you more cooler if you smoke or vape.
It will just eat your money and your health for nothing.
Vaping is not for being cool or anything ..its to help former analog users like me ..to stay away from normal cigs and to put less chemicals in our bodies then we previously did.

Take care.
 

Perrien

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I would classify myself as a non-smoker but relatively new vaper. I used to enjoy the occasional cigar (maybe a few per month) but had gone without any cigars for several months before picking up a e-cig. I enjoyed (but was in NO WAY addicted to smoking, nicotine or anything of the kind.

First the reasons not to:
1) Vaping APPEARS to be much safer than smoking but in absolute standards, not entirely sure. You're still inhaling or at least getting chemicals in your system. It's almost certainly not GOOD for you but the harm level is likely low but not 0.
2) Vaping could be a gateway to actual smoking depending on your personality.
3) It can be fairly expensive if you really get into it.
4) Forget the whole fitting in BS, it's a royal pain and usually those folks turn out to be the lowest common denominators.

Now, my humble opinion. I only vape 0 nic levels. I actually dislike the throat hit the nicotine gives and have no desire to actually get myself addicted to anything. I also and trying to trend away from inhaling. I take the vapor in my mouth and out through the mouth or nose. I only inhale maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the time.

Vaping COULD be a gateway to actual smoking and then to joints and then to .... and then to crack. Social drinking could lead you to become a raging alcoholic. I enjoy vaping just like I enjoy the occasional bowl of ice cream, snickers bar or cup of coffee. Just keep in mind that there's a very clear distinction between vaping and cigarettes (and crack pipes) and you should be okay.

All things being equal, vaping is not good for you but is unlikely to be all that unhealthy (though, as others have said, we don't have any long term studies so don't really know). You have no good reason to start so why bother? That being said, I haven't lost any sleep at night due to my newfound enjoyment.
 

Perrien

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What benefits for a non-smoker might come vaping?

Speaking for myself only of course, it tastes good, I enjoy the process and vaping an entire stardust type clearomizer only has about 7 calories. I could have a cup of coffee instead, and sometimes I do. But realistically speaking, how much harm is the vaping doing? Ignore the POTENTIAL harm (leads to smoking, leads to joints, leads to crack). If I occasionally enjoy a 0 nic vape, is the danger significantly different than having a cup of coffee, an occasional beer or snickers bar?
 

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Speaking for myself only of course, it tastes good, I enjoy the process and vaping an entire stardust type clearomizer only has about 7 calories. I could have a cup of coffee instead, and sometimes I do. But realistically speaking, how much harm is the vaping doing? Ignore the POTENTIAL harm (leads to smoking, leads to joints, leads to crack). If I occasionally enjoy a 0 nic vape, is the danger significantly different than having a cup of coffee, an occasional beer or snickers bar?

Hmm...'Miller-Lite.' "Tastes great! Less filling!"
 

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So many reasons not to do that...and a big selfish one is that it would in it's own way hurt the vaping community.
I know one of the cautions that anti-vapors use is that it's a '' gateway'' to smoking, which may for some be true.
It just seems that it wouldn't be in the interest of anyone wanting to keep vaping legal to encourage it as purely recreational...this is just my opinion and I know what that's worth, I certainly don't get paid to think....;)
 

TristanM

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Hey everyone,

I am also a non-smoker who occassionally vapes. I am more a fan of e cigars, however. I have tried the NextGen (which I thought was absolutely horrible) and also Antonio Villard. Has anyone else tried either of these?

Like I said, I'm not a big smoker, I just like having cigars and these are perfect for a poker night or something like that.

Any other suggestions?

-Tristan
 
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