Non-Sub Ohm Rebuildable Tank

[Two_Bears]

Seriously??
A screw needs to be removed, that's the only way to fill it ?!?

Not true

Here is a top cap for the kayfun where you can top fill the kayfun.

Place your thumb over the airflow and fill your kayfun.

$2.72 Free Shipping Acrylic Kayfun Top Cap (Top Cap, PMMA, Blue) at m.FastTech.com

I wouldnt be caught dead using it because every single top filled Atty i have used has leaked on me.

I didn't say some, many, or most.

EVERY SINGLE TOP FILLED ATTY HAS LEAKED ON ME.

 

[zoiDman]

Seriously??
A screw needs to be removed, that's the only way to fill it ?!?

Seriously. Some Tanks have a Screw that needs to be removed to fill them. And that is a Royal PITA IMO.

From the Discription of one of the Kayfun's in your Screen Shot...

"Bottom screw refill hole"

$15.67 Kayfun Lite Plus V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 4.5ml / stainless steel / 22mm diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[Two_Bears]

Seriously??
A screw needs to be removed, that's the only way to fill it ?!?

Yes it has a fill port on the bottom.

But lets see what other good attys use a fill port on the bottom.

Ohmega Nano
Orchid V1-5 (if memory serves
original Goblin Mini
silverplay nano.

They all have fill ports on the bottom and they provide tge best flavor.

If i could get spare parts for the Silverplay nano (screws, bell caps, chimney, bases, etc that is all i would ever use. But NO spare parts wont last long.

A Kayfun or Orchid can be kept going FOREVER.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

There was one version of the Kayfun that had a needle port on the side for filling, but that would wear out.

I have most of the Kayfuns and a Russian... I have no issues filling or building any of them.

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[KenD]

I wouldnt be caught dead using it because every single top filled Atty i have used has leaked on me.

I didn't say some, many, or most.

EVERY SINGLE TOP FILLED ATTY HAS LEAKED ON ME.

I'm sorry but you're doing something wrong. I've had top fill tanks leak on me when the wicking is wrong only (with a few exceptions). Particularly if the atty has a juice flow control leaking is pretty much nonexistent.

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[KenD]

Yes it has a fill port on the bottom.

But lets see what other good attys use a fill port on the bottom.

Ohmega Nano
Orchid V1-5 (if memory serves
original Goblin Mini
silverplay nano.

They all have fill ports on the bottom and they provide tge best flavor.

If i could get spare parts for the Silverplay nano (screws, bell caps, chimney, bases, etc that is all i would ever use. But NO spare parts wont last long.

A Kayfun or Orchid can be kept going FOREVER.

Top or bottom fill in no way affects the flavor. Those atties are yesterday's tech, and while they work fine there are better options out there.

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[Two_Bears]

There was one version of the Kayfun that had a needle port on the side for filling, but that would wear out.

I have most of the Kayfuns and a Russian... I have no issues filling or building any of them.

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Neither do i. I LOVE my Kayfuns.

 

[Two_Bears]

Top or bottom fill in no way affects the flavor. Those atties are yesterday's tech, and while they work fine there are better options out there.

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You took the wrong point.

I never said those were bottom filled and had better flavor because of it.

I only pointed out the best flavor attys had fill ports on the bottom.

 

[Two_Bears]

Top or bottom fill in no way affects the flavor. Those atties are yesterday's tech, and while they work fine there are better options out there.

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That is your opinion.

Lemo 2 leaked
Aqua 2 leaked
Bellus leaked
Kayfun Mini V3 leaked
Serpent Mini leaked
Orchid top fill leaked.

Just because it is newer does not mean it is better.

 

[zoiDman]

That is your opinion.

Lemo 2 leaked
Aqua 2 leaked
Bellus leaked
Kayfun Mini V3 leaked
Serpent Mini leaked
Orchid top fill leaked.

Just because it is newer does not mean it is better.

You do seem to be having Problems with Top Fills Two_Bears.

 

[KenD]

That is your opinion.

Lemo 2 leaked
Aqua 2 leaked
Bellus leaked
Kayfun Mini V3 leaked
Serpent Mini leaked
Orchid top fill leaked.

Just because it is newer does not mean it is better.

It's not only my opinion if others, myself included, have managed to get top fill atties to work. The Bellus is dependent on proper wicking. When wicked correctly it won't leak at all. The Aqua v2 is not a top fill atty (but it was leak proof for me). Getting after market top fill top caps for atties that aren't designed for top fill is asking for trouble though. Top fill should ideally be combined with juice flow control, that way they're pretty much leak proof (it's still important to get the wicking right, but that's how it is with all atties). To each their own, but I won't recommend old tech that's cumbersome to use.

Older doesn't necessarily mean more reliable.

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[Two_Bears]

That is your opinion.

Lemo 2 leaked
Aqua 2 leaked
Bellus leaked
Kayfun Mini V3 leaked
Serpent Mini leaked
Orchid top fill leaked.

Just because it is newer does not mean it is better.

HATE THEM.

 

[Two_Bears]

It's not only my opinion if others, myself included, have managed to get top fill atties to work. The Bellus is dependent on proper wicking. When wicked correctly it won't leak at all. The Aqua v2 is not a top fill atty (but it was leak proof for me). Getting after market top fill top caps for atties that aren't designed for top fill is asking for trouble though. Top fill should ideally be combined with juice flow control, that way they're pretty much leak proof (it's still important to get the wicking right, but that's how it is with all atties). To each their own, but I won't recommend old tech that's cumbersome to use.

Older doesn't necessarily mean more reliable.

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Wrong.

The Bellus leaked bacause all top filled needs a vacuum.

The Bellus had NO knurling on top so it is virtually impossible to get the top good and tight.

Thanks for the correction on the Aqua v2.

It was not leakproof for me. The stupid thing leaked at the threads. I had to almost close the airflow to stop the leaking.

 

[KenD]

Wrong.

The Bellus leaked bacause all top filled needs a vacuum.

The Bellus had NO knurling on top so it is virtually impossible to get the top good and tight.

Thanks for the correction on the Aqua v2.

It was not leakproof for me. The stupid thing leaked at the threads. I had to almost close the airflow to stop the leaking.

I have two Belluses (Belli?) and neither of them leaks. That's the case for many others as well. It's all about getting the wicking correct, and unfortunately you didn't get it right. The other option is that I (and others) got it wrong and therefore avoid leaking, which is unlikely to say the least. That's fact, not a matter of opinion. We have different preferences when it comes to features we seek, and that's a matter of opinion.

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[Two_Bears]

I have two Belluses (Belli?) and neither of them leaks. That's the case for many others as well. It's all about getting the wicking correct, and unfortunately you didn't get it right. The other option is that I (and others) got it wrong and therefore avoid leaking, which is unlikely to say the least. That's fact, not a matter of opinion. We have different preferences when it comes to features we seek, and that's a matter of opinion.

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So you're saying user error.

I have built RDAs and RTAs for years. I have used lots of dual coil attys in single coil mode and they didn't leak a drop.

I know how to build, abd very good at wicking

Both the Goblin mini and silverplay nano have the airflow directly underneath the coils. Its very hard to build them to prevent leaking. On both i built single coil mode, and probably over The life of them I bet they didn't leak 10-15 drops. The Bellus dumped a whole Tank in less than two hours.

 

[KenD]

So you're saying user error.

I have built RDAs and RTAs for years. I have used lots of dual coil attys in single coil mode and they didn't leak a drop.

I know how to build, abd very good at wicking

Both the Goblin mini and silverplay nano have the airflow directly underneath the coils. Its very hard to build them to prevent leaking. On both i built single coil mode, and probably over The life of them I bet they didn't leak 10-15 drops. The Bellus dumped a whole Tank in less than two hours.

Yes, user error. No offense meant, the Bellus simply requires a specific wicking. Otherwise I can't explain why my Belluses don't leak. That would be a weird sort of user error.

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[Stosh]

The Kanger sub-tank mini would be my first pick for someone just starting to rebuild. Easy to get to the coils and wick if not perfect on the first try without emptying the tank, and air flow control. Can close it down enough for MTL very simply.

I have a handful of Orchids also, modified with clear kayfun tanks for ease of fill. Have needle tops for my liquid supply, so reasonably simple to refill. Some have had leaking problems, but only my first couple ever leaked for me. I've been re-building since we were soldering needles into Royal CE-2s so my experience certainly plays into my results. My biggest complaint is lack of air flow contro, although I've found plugging on of the two holes is perfect for me...YMMV

I diy my eliquid with no sweeteners or coloring so I have to change my wicks only every month or two.

 

[zoiDman]

CE2's



LOL

 

[GeorgeS]

+2 Kanger STM/TTM. The latter can be top filled. Air flow on the smallest hole is still more airy than a Nautilus on its largest hole.

Factory coils can be bought in the +1ohm range as well as the RTA can be built to whatever ohm's you want. (just need right gauge wire, some good recommendations were made earlier)

+2 on the Kayfuns. Personally I like the V4 and V5's. The air flow can be shut down more than the Kanger. Both the V4 and V5 have juice flow control, nary a leak out of them.

Mostly all my tanks are top fill these days. Some are easier than others to get right. The time honored "fill, close, invert" to reintroduce negative pressure in the tank is often needed even with juice flow control. (never had to do it with a KF)

The dismal Aspire factory coils is what drove me to RTA's over a year ago. Once you've gotten used to rebuilding you'll wonder why you ever wasted money on factory coils!

 

[300fury]

Don't worry about the nicotine level . I have been mtl vaping 24 mg for over 3 years , I Vape between .7 and 1.2. Direct lung holds no interest for me. Everyone is different and more or less sensitive to nic. I don't chain Vape and only go through 4-5 mls a day