Noob removes wicks, gets paranoid

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Aneres

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Hello, I'm about 6 weeks into vaping and loving it. I'm worried I've made a noob mistake - I very carefully removed the wick from a couple of my 510 attys to test it out and am impressed with the improved flavor but am worried because it seems as if the attys burn much hotter than before and occasionally the atty will get so hot very quickly that I get paranoid and switch it out. I'm a fairly heavy vaper, but prior to removing the wicks I never found myself seemingly overheating the atty to anywhere near this degree.

I don't believe I'm overusing them, but I worry that I have now damaged them for normal use. I don't think I touched or otherwise damaged the heating coil, yet it seems to be running extremely hot. Is this due to the removal of the wick? When I removed the fibers, they were black and mostly melted, so I suspect they were originally actually touching the coil. Or is it just that hot in there? :s

TL;DR -- Tell me I haven't ruined my attys 8-o
 

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I remove the wick and the bridge. You need to be careful when doing so because you can actually pull it all apart. Only do this if you drip exclusively. There are some videos some where that you can watch. If I find them I'll post the link.

I have been doing this for about 6 months now and for me it works the best and I average about 5 to 6 weeks per atomizer before they slow down. I have only used Joye 510's so I'm not sure how this would be with other 510's.
 

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You haven't destroyed the atties you improved them. I also remove the entire bridge and drip straight onto the coil using a drip tip. I am running a 5 volt box mod or a 5 volt PT and I haven't lost a atty yet. Plus they taste better and the changover in flavors is much easier without the bridge and the wic storing flavors.
 
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Hello, I'm about 6 weeks into vaping and loving it. I'm worried I've made a noob mistake - I very carefully removed the wick from a couple of my 510 attys to test it out and am impressed with the improved flavor but am worried because it seems as if the attys burn much hotter than before and occasionally the atty will get so hot very quickly that I get paranoid and switch it out. I'm a fairly heavy vaper, but prior to removing the wicks I never found myself seemingly overheating the atty to anywhere near this degree.

I don't believe I'm overusing them, but I worry that I have now damaged them for normal use. I don't think I touched or otherwise damaged the heating coil, yet it seems to be running extremely hot. Is this due to the removal of the wick? When I removed the fibers, they were black and mostly melted, so I suspect they were originally actually touching the coil. Or is it just that hot in there? :s

TL;DR -- Tell me I haven't ruined my attys 8-o

When I still used my 510, I removed the wick from a couple of my atties. They were getting burnt and causing a nasty taste. I only dripped when I refilled the cart, and I've oft been a bit confused by those who say that you can't remove the wick and still use the cart ... ??

Anyhoo, I'd guess that you're flooding the atty a little bit; not enough to have to remove it and blow it out, but enough to get more heat.

Do you pay attention to the orientation of your PV when the cart is fairly full? I found that I had to be a little vigilant about keeping atty up for a while after filling to avoid the subsequent, minimal over-heat that could occur.

Jan
 

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The fibers were not melted. They are made of silica and do not melt at atty temperatures. If you remove the wick (or wick and bridge) you are left with a drip only atty. Do not use it with carts. If you drip the atty will stay cool enough.

Again, I used my wickless atties for months with no issues ... with a cart.

YMMV
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*headspin*





Hokay, ten minutes after making this post my atty died. It was my first atty and had been in daily use for 6ish weeks.

The wicks appeared to be melted, as they were stuck together at the edges, but it's possible that it is some kind of buildup that was bonding the fibers together. I had no idea what the material was, thanks for the info =)

I'm using a Joye 510 I purchased from healthcabin. All standard, I'm just dipping my toes into mods yet, so I have no understanding of battery mods nor how voltage or temperature effect things.

Someone mentioned the orientation of the atty and "keeping atty up for a while"; does this mean battery to the sky, cart to the ground?

Well since the thing pooped out anyway, I suppose my OT is now obsolete...
 

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I personally do not believe you can do any harm to the atomizer with only 3.7 volts batteries.
No matter WHAT you do to them, or try to do to them.

So my advice is, stop worrying immediately.
:)


Oh yeah, and lest I forget, please make sure to sign the petition linked in my signature below.
THEY WANT TO TAKE OUR ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES AWAY FROM US.

And everybody that loves you and cares about you, they should sign it too.
Seriously.
 

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I remove the wick and the bridge. You need to be careful when doing so because you can actually pull it all apart. Only do this if you drip exclusively. There are some videos some where that you can watch. If I find them I'll post the link.

I have been doing this for about 6 months now and for me it works the best and I average about 5 to 6 weeks per atomizer before they slow down. I have only used Joye 510's so I'm not sure how this would be with other 510's.
Once they "slow down" just do a dry burn.
Should get them back to working like new, if not better.

Check out this thread: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/69834-my-atty-resurrection-method.html
 

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The wicks appeared to be melted, as they were stuck together at the edges, but it's possible that it is some kind of buildup that was bonding the fibers together.
The wick is some kind of silica material and does not melt or burn at these temperatures.
But the buildup you see is baked on gunk that all atomizers get over time.

You also should do a dry burn, because your atomizer is probably just fine.
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Aneres

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Thanks, I did in fact sign that and other petitions since discovering this site =)

The atty in question is no longer producing any heat or vapor, so I dunno... maybe I'll see if it works again when it's dried out, try the dry burn...

But uh, I suppose I should not stress further, since I'm pretty sure it didn't die from taking the wick out, which was my initial panic >_<
 

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*headspin*





Hokay, ten minutes after making this post my atty died. It was my first atty and had been in daily use for 6ish weeks.

The wicks appeared to be melted, as they were stuck together at the edges, but it's possible that it is some kind of buildup that was bonding the fibers together. I had no idea what the material was, thanks for the info =)

I'm using a Joye 510 I purchased from healthcabin. All standard, I'm just dipping my toes into mods yet, so I have no understanding of battery mods nor how voltage or temperature effect things.

Someone mentioned the orientation of the atty and "keeping atty up for a while"; does this mean battery to the sky, cart to the ground?

Well since the thing pooped out anyway, I suppose my OT is now obsolete...

Yes, that is exactly what I meant by "keeping atty up for a while."

I wouldn't pitch it just yet. I'd pull the wick and give it a good clean and then check it again.

Jan
 

Aneres

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Pulling the wick is what started the initial change in atty behavior. Over the course of the next day it would, as stated in OP, give alarmingly high temp drags and seem to overheat the atty. After a day's use it is no longer producing heat, sound or vapor. I guess I can just chalk it up to it being it's time, hah

I'm gonna rinse it out n get some sleep n see what it does tomorrow after it's dried a bit. Thanks for the info and advice folks =)
 

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The wick is there for a reason...As i said DO NOT remove the wick unless you have to. If a person says that he/she removed the wick and the atty works like a fog machine for #months that does not apply necessarily to you. Remember that the wick is there with a purpose. The 510 atty runs a lot hotter than most atties. The wick is call wick because...well it wicks the coil and keeps it cooler. Removing the wick will increase atty temperature.

For further info please read here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-out-under-atomizer-bridge-3.html#post1087748

And that is why a wickless atty performs so well when you drip...the coil it is constantly wet.
 
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