North dakota ban on e cigs use indoors passes

[DaPLUMBER]

On November 6, 2012, in a landslide decision (66% - 33%), North Dakota voters chose to put a stronger smokefree state law in place. Voters from each of North Dakota's 53 counties and all legislative districts voiced support for making North Dakota the 24th state, along with the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands, to require all non-hospitality workplaces, restaurants, and bars to be 100% smokefree. In addition, North Dakota's smokefree law adds provisions to require all gaming/gambling facilities to be 100% smokefree.

North Dakota's initiative makes all public places 100% smokefree, including: bars, all worksites, truck stops, hotels/motels, retail tobacco stores, gambling and gaming facilities, child and adult day care facilities, within 20 feet of entrances and even a few outdoor places. Because research has not shown that electronic cigarettes are safe for bystanders, e-cigarettes are also prohibited where smoking is not allowed.

THIS WENT INTO EFFECT ON DEC. 6..........................


THIS ONE REALLY BURNS MY ......................

 

[J.R. Bob Dobbs]

and clearly since there's really no research to show that they aren't safe they put on their tinfoil hats again and say let ban this, just because were dumb!

if i were you i would gather up as much research as you can and contact you legislators, senators and whoever you can and see about getting this changed. it will take work, and likely a petition with thousands of signatures but it CAN be done.

 

[DaPLUMBER]

The petitions are already being drawn up..............

 

[DC2]

If you're serious about putting together a petition, you should read this thread...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uld-ban-smoking-e-cig-use-all-workplaces.html

And you should strongly consider collaborating with some of the people who have already been working on the North Dakota issue.
You will find them in that thread I linked above.

 

[Vocalek]

DC2 is correct. The petition campaign is already in motion. Please join up with Steve Johnson and make this a coordinated effort.

I also might mention the little known provision in that law. The shelters that business owners erected to protect smokers from the elements have been made, in effect, into designated non-smoking areas. Here's how: Even under the old law, smoking was prohibited in "enclosed spaces." The new law redefines "enclosed spaces" as any structure where more than 33% of the perimeter consists of walls. If you ask me, the woman who dreamed up that idea is a certifiable sadist.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Greater than 33% of the perimeter consists of walls. Perimeter is the two dimensional boundary or the "outline" of the space. So the absence of the roof is irrelevant. The roof consideration would require "total surface area" of the space. Ugh. Not even a proper means of calculating a three dimensional enclosure.

The complete lack of intellectual merit of this means of passage is aggravating, yet sadly, not shocking. All to the chorus of "baaah, baaah, baaah", which sounds like "its for the protection of the children". How has it come to this. I bet we see this show again, coming to a town, state, or locality near you.

 

[Vocalek]

How do you get two walls to stand up? How do you know what the perimeter actually is if you are missing 2/3 of the walls that would enclose a rectangular space (and hold up the roof and other walls)?

 

[Faylool]

Control freaks. Freaks period. North Dakota huh? Sad

 

[Petrodus]

Control freaks. Freaks period. North Dakota huh? Sad

True ...
Read my signature.

 

[Vocalek]

More accurately, "Sadists."