NorthJersey.com -- Governing body approves outdoor "smoking" ban -- e-cigarettes included (CASAA quoted)

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Governing body approves smoking ban - NorthJersey.com

The governing body approved a smoking ban at municipal recreation facilities last week despite a plea from an advocate for electronic cigarettes.


Smokers of cigars, cigarettes, pipes, electronic cigarettes and other similar devices will no longer be able to light up on municipal sites such as the ball fields, bleachers or any place labeled with "smoke-free zone" signs without the possibility of a $50 fine.


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In a letter to the council, Gregory Conley, a legal policy expert for Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association (CASAA), said cigarettes and cigars emit smoke produced by the burning of tobacco while "smoke-free electronic cigarettes" apply heat to a liquid solution of propylene glycol, glycerin, food coloring, and nicotine to create an inhalable vapor.


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When reached for comment on Oct. 21, Conley said he was disappointed the council "chose to disingenuously include smoke-free electronic cigarettes in this smoking ban."


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These people are idiots and one of the reasons I have eliminated NJ from my travel destinations.

No joke dude, you can’t even pump your own gas. I had to attend a training class for my old job in NJ -- Almost got arrested ‘cuz I was on E, so pulled up and started doing my thing only to have every non-English speaking person that worked there scream at me. Like I understood what they heck they were saying and cant pump gas is as foreign as any foreign language on top of that... I seriously thought I was about to die they way i was being ambushed… Then the cop shows up… what a nightmare. I got lucky the cop was in a good mood and saw out of state plates let me go on a warning.

Then I got lost because you can't even make a left turn ANYWHERE?

... backwards. I swear.
 
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No joke dude, you can’t even pump your own gas. I had to attend a training class for my old job in NJ -- Almost got arrested ‘cuz I was on E, so pulled up and started doing my thing only to have every non-English speaking person that worked there scream at me. I seriously thought I was about to die… Then the cop shows up… what a nightmare.

Then I got lost because you can't even make a left turn ANYWHERE?

... backwards. I swear.

Yep, that's New Jersey. I'd be angry about the requirement that we have gas pump attendants, but because we have a low (nonexistent?) gasoline tax, in my experience our gas tends to still be cheaper than neighboring states.

I once sat in a Sunoco gas station parking lot across the NJ / PA border for a good 5 minutes waiting for an attendant. A man in a flannel shirt was standing at a pump putting gas in a car, and I automatically assumed that he was the attendant. I realized "Ohh yeah, I'm in Pennsylvania" when he got in the car and drove away.

And for the record, my letter to the Borough Council, which the reporter did receive a copy of, noted that e-cigarettes contain FDA-approved food flavorings, not "food coloring." Other than that, the report is accurate and I commend the writer for covering it.
 
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