Not getting any flavour. Help please!

[AshJD94]

I recently starting creating mixes with no nicotine. I thought it would be as simple as replacing the PG nicotine from my previous recipes (that worked) with normal PG. This doesn't seem to be the case because I'm not getting the same, if any, flavours as I did when I included nicotine, even after steeping for the same number of days (sometimes more).

A typical recipe i've been using (for a 2ml mix) is:

0.4ml flavour
0.9ml PG
0.7ml VG


I get a TINY hint of flavour, but it is overwhelmed by a "warm", slightly chemical taste.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

 

[AshJD94]

NOTE: The smell of the solutions are VERY strong with the flavour i've used, which is odd because when it comes to taste, there is none.
The flavours i've tried are:
Spearmint (this one actually worked and gave off flavour)
Mad fruit
Apple
Cherry coke
Blueberry

 

[michaelsil1]

Mix a bigger sample batch

 

[AshJD94]

What difference will that make?
After the experience i've had of not getting any flavour, I don't particularly want to risk making a bigger batch and having to throw it away because it didnt work :/

 

[akatina]

0.4ml flavor in a 2ml mix is 20%, which may very well be too high for the flavorings you're using. Liquid that has scent but no discernible taste is a big clue that you have too much flavoring in the batch. Take one of your 2ml low-flavor tests and add another 2ml of unflavored pg/vg. Shake and steep and then try the batch (which is now at 10% flavoring instead of 20%). Chances are you'll start to notice better flavor.

 

[AshJD94]

I started my samples at 8% flavour and worked up to 20% in hope that it would increase the taste, each % of flavour has tasted the same :/

 

[michaelsil1]

How long did you let it steep?

Mixing batches that small will be very hard to accurately determine what your flavor percentage is.

 

[AshJD94]

Between 5 - 8 days

 

[michaelsil1]

After the experience i've had of not getting any flavour, I don't particularly want to risk making a bigger batch and having to throw it away because it didnt work :/

Personally I didn't expect to be an instant expert and an education costs.

 

[Kabooma]

I once had this issue, and for me it was the brand (or batch?) of the flavoring. Maybe it was who I ordered it from, and at the time, I assumed that it was watered down by the vendor. I guess that's what they mean when the description says "water soluable" pfft!

Anyways, I switched the site I ordered the concentrates from as well as the brand name of concentrates, and bam.. I got robust flavor that is consistent now. Even though the concentrates smelled right, once mixed into the pg/vg, they amounted to zilch.. that screams "watered down". That's my mileage, yours may vary.

 

[Kabooma]

for what it's worth, I now order LA flavors only and from wizard labs. I've started "experimenting" with others- I just placed an order for a few select flavors from desert vapes, since so many here seem to recommend them. We will see But bottom line is that I don't experiment without having my "sure fire" supplies available and stocked.

 

[Iffy]

What flav manufacturer are you using? Also, where are you buying your nic? Without that info, we're clueless...

ETA: Reread your post. So, you're not using nic now. Still need to know your flav manufacturer. Also, does your PG or VG have an odor in their containers?

 

[crxess]

Need to watch for several things. Flavor quality. Pg/Vg quality
Anything that could effect taste.
Normal recommendation for test mixing is NO NIC mix. Save the nic for good mix results.

Today I started vaping a nice Sweet Raspberry mix. Put it down to eat dinner and 20 minutes later picked it back up. Almost Gagged at the taste. No way the juice went bad that fast................Nope, 2 hours later all is good. Seems the Barbequed Chicken or Italian Herb pasta was messing with the taste buds.