Not Gonna Buy Any More Premixed E-juice. EVER.

[lostknitter]

I haven't tried Ahlusions' flavorings, but their juice is fabulous! Someone here in the REO Lounge mentioned them a couple of months ago, so I ordered some samples and ended up ordering large sizes of all that I ordered. The samples they have sent have also been good even if they weren't ones I would order. I didn't order more of the Smokin Cherry or Jungle juice, but they certainly didn't taste bad, just not my favs. They don't taste perfumy, and the fruits don't taste like candy.

 

[mwa102464]

the ob, RTSVapes ( Randy ) has extra clean very good Nic base at a super price, I love and buy his 100mg all 100%VG my juices turn out super using this.

 

[canoeist]

High desert has good stuff (nic base, pg, vg and other mixing supplies).

 

[redeyedancer]

Coming soon! Tripp's Custom Rhubarb Juice!

Free while quantities last, just pay shipping! Take my juice... please!

Tripp I am a master rhubarb juice Jedi ninja the problem is I love to eat rhubarb but vaping it is a drag

 

[TennDave]

I made a lot of rhubarb too ... My DIY wasn't so good (after spending a lot of money on supplies, etc.), so have gone back to a few trusty vendors: AVE, Highbrowvapor and LiquidXpress...if I could ever get some good recipes, I'd try it again...but when I look at recipes, I'm overwhelmed (like many others), and also realize, "I don't have those flavors...will have to order some just to see if I like this- and I may not."

 

[Mudflap]

I'm scouting recipes and when I order flavorings, I'll get the ones necessary for the recipes I wanna try. I'll stick with it till I can make some juice I enjoy.

I've got time and I'm determined. I'm encouraged by the community because they're freakishly generous with their tips, advice, and willingness to help newbs.

 

[TennDave]

Okay- tobacco flavored vapor here.
Can anyone list up a basic list of "must have" flavors to make some decent tobacco juice?
I'm on Flue Cured, an RY4 from Highbrow and Taboo from LiquidXpress at the moment. Also like Gorilla Juice and Boba's in moderation.

 

[Justice]

Okay- tobacco flavored vapor here.
Can anyone list up a basic list of "must have" flavors to make some decent tobacco juice?
I'm on Flue Cured, an RY4 from Highbrow and Taboo from LiquidXpress at the moment. Also like Gorilla Juice and Boba's in moderation.

My favorite is dark tobacco and ry4 mixed 50/50 I get them from PA. Then I mix 50/50 pg vg

 

[kenetix]

can anyone recommend a site that is a one stop shop with the highest quality product.

I am less concerned with price as getting the highest quality. I am slightly concerned with price, but want the best stuff.

No such one stop place.. if you try and order everything from the same place then you end up with crap in my opinion.

Wizard Labs
nic base

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E-Liquid Recipes
recipes

E-Liquid Calculator With PG/VG Adjusting and Flavor's With Nicotine
juice calculator

I think the key to diy is to contact the vendor you plan on buying from first. Ask questions even go out of your way to explain what you are wanting to do when you place order in that special intructions area and see how then respond. Order small quantity first to see if you like the stuff first. Not hard to mess up DIY stuff either it is right on the money or it is way off....

 

[mwa102464]

I found that having quite a few of the flavorings from all the flavoring companies really helps, the flavourart tobaccos are good then I use TPA and especially Capella lately seems to be really nailing some great flavorings as well. Mix em up guys

 

[davelog]

Okay- tobacco flavored vapor here.
Can anyone list up a basic list of "must have" flavors to make some decent tobacco juice?
I'm on Flue Cured, an RY4 from Highbrow and Taboo from LiquidXpress at the moment. Also like Gorilla Juice and Boba's in moderation.

My holy trinity for tobacco flavors is Royal, Desert Ship and MLB Type. They each have a distinct top flavor and they combine well, although I generally only add MLB to the others as a secondary note because it's such a strong, nutty flavor. You can make a lot of varied tobacco juices by mixing 2 or three of these in different ratios.

 

[Mudflap]

My DIY bookmarks folder is getting fuller.

 

[mwa102464]

Flavourart.it now says under all there tobacco & all flavorings that your order will be shipped in 3 business weeks do to high demand, that kind of sucks, but wont stop me from ordering directly from them

 

[kenetix]

Oh! I think before you dive in both feet mixing complex flavors try to master single flavor juices first. Think of it as cooking you don't go in your kitchen to cook a huge meal and expect it to be perfect the first time around. Start out basic and as you get a good feel for that then move up to 2 flavors and then 3 flavors. Otherwise you will be throwing alot of crap down the drain. Make small 3 ml test batches at time so you don't risk throwing away 20 ml of what was supposed to be carmel apple bacon pie crust with vanilla bean custard that really smells like skunk piss and taste like something you scoop out of the yankee stadium urinal.... good luck

 

[house mouse]

I like muflap's rant and I completely agree with him.

I agree too. My biggest gripe with pre made juice these days is why does a bottle of 0mg juice cost as much as a bottle of 36mg juice? Nic is the most expensive component in the juice and yet the cost is the same if you don't have any in it? That alone has pushed me into diy.

 

[Laszlo]

Well put my friend. I was in the beginning buying tailor made juices and of the few I found I liked they were ok. I ventured into DIY and now can't stand the taste of tailor made juice. It all tastes chemically and or perfumery to me. So I have found my ultimate all day juice that hits the spot for me. I don't tend to try anything else anymore as I was with analogs I had my brand and that was my brand. So why would I want to change juices all the time. My vapinf is a replacement for analogs not I repeat not a quit smoking program just an alternative. Good luck to everyone beginning DIY

Exactly my sentiment, especially the second part. Well said. I was concerned that there's something wrong with me not rotating several flavors. Just sticking to one favorite tobacco flavor. For donkey's years I've smoked nothing else but Marlboro Reds, couldn't finish off a menthol analog offered once. Creature of habit I guess.

 

[the ob]

so once again, to confirm.
If I vape 70 pg and 30 vg, I should get a pg nic and then vg with no nic right?

I am still confused as to how much play I have with the nic juices. I have been told to get 50/50 or pg nic only.
I cannot find a link explaining which to get to start with.

 

[nerak]

so once again, to confirm.
If I vape 70 pg and 30 vg, I should get a pg nic and then vg with no nic right?

I am still confused as to how much play I have with the nic juices. I have been told to get 50/50 or pg nic only.
I cannot find a link explaining which to get to start with.

It might help if you go to a juice calculator and put in different variables and look at the measurements and percentages. You can change the numbers and see how it will effect the measurements. Maybe that will help you to see what it is you need.
This calculator is the easiest I have used. Very simple. You are wanting a low nic juice with mixed percents of pg/vg. Try putting in your numbers. http://www.ecigexpress.com/ejuice-calculator.php

 

[ChrisEU]

For your target of 70PG and 30VG you should buy
1) pure PG nic juice
2) pure PG
3) VG (either 99,5% or 85%, I prefer the 85%), the difference is that the 85% has some water added which is a good thing.
4) Flavors
5) Some syringes and blunt needles (use the thickest blunt needles you can get). You need big syringes (5, 10 or 20 mil) for the bases and small ones (1 or 2 ml) for the flavors

Don't go overboard with the nic strength, for a beginner I'd recommend 38mg/ml base.
You don't need to be too concerned with the PG/VG ratio, a few percents this way or the other don't matter
The only real concern should be nicotine - measure that as accurate as you can.
Best to start with mixing some juice as no nic to get a feeling for the tools and the calculations.
And start with only one tobacco flavor plus one other flavor in your juices, do complex recipes later.

Start with only a handful of flavors. FA would be good.
Tobacco FA: Buy RY4, Latakia, Royal, maybe Tuscan Reserve - start these with 1%, that is 0.1ml on top of 10ml base
(Optional)Non Tobacco FA: Buy what you like, but include at least Vanilla Custard or Vanilla Classic, Cookie, Vienna Cream, 2 or 3 fruits, 1 coffee type. Start these at 3 to 5 % (0,3 to 0,5ml on top of 10ml base)
(Optional)Special FA: Buy a small amount of MTS Vape Wizard

So, for a no nic juice:
* Put 7ml PG in an empty and cleaned juice bottle
* Add 3ml VG
* Add 0.1ml Tobacco Flavor
* (Optional)Add 0.3 - 1ml Non-Tobacco Flavor
* Clean Stuff, close bottle, shake juice

Try a couple drops right after mixing it, then let it sit for a day and try it again. It WILL change. If the flavor is too weak, add more flavor, shake, let sit for another day.

Try adding the Vape Wizard to your juice, one drop at a time. See if you like the result.

After a couple tries that are not awful you can start putting nicotine in the juice. Calculate how much nic juice is needed for your strength and replace the appropriate amount of PG with your PG nic juice.

(For the pros: Yes I know that adding flavor on top of the 10ml dilutes the stuff, but it simply doesn't matter with the percentages we are talking here. If you start adding more than 10% flavoring, go ahead and use a calculator)

Edit:
I hesitated to write about this, because English is a third language to me, but I help people start out with DIY quite a bit here and it really only LOOKS complicated, but isn't. It's cheap, it's easy, there is no reason not to try it. The only problem I can see is the 100mg/ml juice you guys have - that's dangerous and I rather not use it.

 

[the ob]

For your target of 70PG and 30VG you should buy
1) pure PG nic juice
2) pure PG
3) VG (either 99,5% or 85%, I prefer the 85%), the difference is that the 85% has some water added which is a good thing.
4) Flavors
5) Some syringes and blunt needles (use the thickest blunt needles you can get). You need big syringes (5, 10 or 20 mil) for the bases and small ones (1 or 2 ml) for the flavors

Don't go overboard with the nic strength, for a beginner I'd recommend 38mg/ml base.
You don't need to be too concerned with the PG/VG ratio, a few percents this way or the other don't matter
The only real concern should be nicotine - measure that as accurate as you can.
Best to start with mixing some juice as no nic to get a feeling for the tools and the calculations.
And start with only one tobacco flavor plus one other flavor in your juices, do complex recipes later.

Start with only a handful of flavors. FA would be good.
Tobacco FA: Buy RY4, Latakia, Royal, maybe Tuscan Reserve - start these with 1%, that is 0.1ml on top of 10ml base
(Optional)Non Tobacco FA: Buy what you like, but include at least Vanilla Custard or Vanilla Classic, Cookie, Vienna Cream, 2 or 3 fruits, 1 coffee type. Start these at 3 to 5 % (0,3 to 0,5ml on top of 10ml base)
(Optional)Special FA: Buy a small amount of MTS Vape Wizard

So, for a no nic juice:
* Put 7ml PG in an empty and cleaned juice bottle
* Add 3ml VG
* Add 0.1ml Tobacco Flavor
* (Optional)Add 0.3 - 1ml Non-Tobacco Flavor
* Clean Stuff, close bottle, shake juice

Try a couple drops right after mixing it, then let it sit for a day and try it again. It WILL change. If the flavor is too weak, add more flavor, shake, let sit for another day.

Try adding the Vape Wizard to your juice, one drop at a time. See if you like the result.

After a couple tries that are not awful you can start putting nicotine in the juice. Calculate how much nic juice is needed for your strength and replace the appropriate amount of PG with your PG nic juice.

(For the pros: Yes I know that adding flavor on top of the 10ml dilutes the stuff, but it simply doesn't matter with the percentages we are talking here. If you start adding more than 10% flavoring, go ahead and use a calculator)

Edit:
I hesitated to write about this, because English is a third language to me, but I help people start out with DIY quite a bit here and it really only LOOKS complicated, but isn't. It's cheap, it's easy, there is no reason not to try it. The only problem I can see is the 100mg/ml juice you guys have - that's dangerous and I rather not use it.

thanks! so why is the base I am using VG as opposed to PG? I am just curious about that part.