Not sure how I feel about Mods.....

[geeve]

So I was talking with the better half last night, and she said she was so happy that I am vaping now. I don't stink, I don't rush just to have a smoke before going into a store or leaving one, I can run around with my daughter and not get winded.

Then she said "for Christmas you can get one of those fancy tech ones, I know your nerd side is dying for one. Try to keep around $100" I was shocked and thought to myself "SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!" So I began the research and looking around. So far I have come up with the eVic, iTaste SVD, and Vamo V3. I gave up looking at the Blade mod (because I heard they can be dangerous). They look cool, but I just don't know. It seems there is alot that can break or go wrong. I will admit the Tech Nerd in me is excited, but the practicle side is saying to just get a big mah twist or spinner....

My questions are; are they worth it? Which will work with my iClear 16's (I have to have top coil)? What makes them better than the 1100mah ego k's I have now? Any of you fine folks have any of these?

Geeve

Edit: I know Christmas is still far out there, but I like to be researched....

 

[BlueMoods]

For me, I have 2 Provarii, the big things are VV and being able to swap batteries quickly w/o removing the delivery device. I like the service and durability of the Provari too- a lot tougher than most others but, the main thing is you can adjust them to any delivery device and juice you want to use for the most vapor, best taste, etc... Many are 510 threaded and, you can buy inexpensive adapters to make other threads fit your mod, if you want to try different delivery devices with it.

 

[SuperLuckyLady]

I was a long time ego user, and then decided to try the VAMO - oh man, what a difference. I got much better, tastier hits from the VAMO, even at the same voltage as the ego. Don't know why, but there it is. Loved it - I did go through quite a bit more juice though.

Unfortunately those great hits excaberated my COPD, to the point I had to go back to the egos. Damn! That's what I get for smoking for 40+ years. Most people don't have this problem, however.

I'm not familiar with with the clearo you mention.

 

[Fizzpop]

To be honest, the biggest plus is being able to put bigass batteries in them. The second biggest plus is when those batteries give up the ghost, they cost half of what it costs to replace an eGo twist. I rebuild my coils, so the built in ohm meter is nice. The variable voltage/wattage is nice, but you get that with an eGo twist, so a wash there.

But they are very pretty. I love my Provari as much for the quality of workmanship as anything else. Thing is built like a tank.

 

[BeatboxHero]

I recently got my first real mod a couple of weeks ago. The difference is huge! It may not seem like that big of a deal but really it is. I got a Sigelei Zmax which I personally think should go on your short list of APVs worth looking at. It has all the settings you could want and I personally think it looks awesome. Also, it comes with 2 18650 batteries and a charger. So you effectively have everything you need for pretty cheap If you look around and shop you can find the new version 5 of the Zmax for 50-ish dollars I think. Then you could use that other $50 of Christmas money for accessories. I would recommend a Protank or Protank 2 with replacement coils to last you a while. Maybe some 18350 batteries since the device is telescoping and you might like it at its shorter size.

Just some ideas but basically the answer to your question is yes. An APV with pulse width modulation is worth it. You have more options and every hit is amazing. An APV will always regulate your voltage/wattage to exactly what you pick so you get a good hit even on low battery. I didn't think it could get much better before my Zmax but I was completely wrong. It gets a lot better

Also you may have to clarify what you mean by "have to use a top coil?". If you are asking what I think you are asking then no.

 

[Train2]

Here's a few things to consider:
They're all bigger - so if you vape while running around, that may be an issue.
I use my mod at home, and carry Ego's when out and about.
But i DO use the mod at home - because it's got some real advantages:
- big battery, to use the thing ALL DAY
- VV or VW - it's nice to set to a wattage, and get just the right amount of power, even if you switch to a different topper and the resistance changes. You didn't specify if your EGO was VV. If not, then this is a HUGE difference, being able to change the power to suit your clearo and juice.
- I think they'll ALL work with an iClear

The EVIC is "fancier" - you can connect it to your computer, and really fine-tune the thing, customizing it so the voltage varies DURING a draw, even.
The VAMO is super-popular - I ALMOST got one, and probably will soon
The SVD is what I got for my first mod, and I love it. It's kind of tough and heavy - but like I said, I'm sitting at my desk when I use it - so that's just not an issue...

Don't forget - you'll need a charger and batteries. And shopping for the right batteries is AS MUCH research as picking the mod! Get really good ones, as even if you get a VAMO and then an SVD, and then a Provari - you can keep using the same batteries...

 

[BeatboxHero]

My questions are; are they worth it? Which will work with my iClear 16's (I have to have top coil)? What makes them better than the 1100mah ego k's I have now? Any of you fine folks have any of these?

I also recommend the iClear 30 Its bigger but looks great on the right mod.

 

[Thin]

Most mods will do exactly the same as a spinner or twist ie give you variable voltage. Some will also do variable wattage, and maybe have an inbuilt resistance tester, or suggest a voltage to vape at, or count the puffs you've taken etc. Most have 510 threads (like the small inner ones on an eGo battery) so you can put any 510 attys on them. You can also get adapters to use, say, an evod on a Provari if you want. I think the iclear 16 is 510 so it would work just fine. It might look a bit top heavy tho. Mods have separate batteries so you swap them around as necessary instead of charging the actual unit. I have quite a few different batteries and the Vamo and Provari are always used indoors, but the spinner and twist are always used when out n about.

 

[retired1]

You're not thinking big enough. I want this one so bad I can taste it.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Disadvantages to a mod:

* You'll get more attention. Whether it's wanted or not, you're going to get it. Don't be surprised at adverse reactions.
* They're expensive, so if/when they break, be ready to chalk up some cash for another one.
* Not pocket-friendly. This is a moot point, as anyone who has ever kept an eGo with a Stardust-type clearo in their pocket always broke their eGo's/clearos, too.
* Try to avoid Mod Envy and Mod DBag syndrome (Mod Envy: "I must have a bigger and better mod than the guy next to me!" / Mod DBag syndrome: "Oh, I see you're using a 650 mAh eGo passthrough with an iClear16. I'm using a mech mod with an RSST at .6 ohms with an oxidized ss mesh and 25 gauge Kanthall wire wrapped for (x) amperages on a slow-drain 3.7 volt 18650 for plumes of vapor").
* They're big.

Advantages to a mod:

* Longer battery life.
* Variable voltage/variable wattage in a more controllable setting
* A better hit (this can be argued, it's subjective, a hit is different for everyone).
* Digital display.
* Easier to fine tune to find your sweet spot.
* If the device is well taken care of, it'll last a long time. Hypothetically, the only thing you'll need to replace are the external batteries.
* The general satisfaction that you've taken the next step in this vaping journey.
* Mod envy. You can one-up your fellow vaper.

 

[Lessifer]

I think all three of the APVs you mentioned have ego threading so your iclear 16s should be fine.

There are a few advantages to an APV over an ego battery:
Longer battery life, depending on the batteries you use.
Replace the batteries instead of the whole unit.
APVs usually have a higher amp limit than ego batteries, again depending on the batteries used. Your dual coil iclears may seem like a whole different beast using something with more power behind it.
More fun features to play with, the ohm meter is nice, VW is pretty much the same as VV but something else to play with.

If you can, try to get in to a B&M to try out an APV just so you can see what the differences are.

 

[geeve]

Great advice so far! Keep it coming

The batts I have now are not VV to answer that question.

When I say I need top coil, I am saying that I love the warm vape, I have a Kanger MT3 bottom coil and hate it. To airy and the vape is way to cool for me

What kind of Batteries do you all use? Brand? Size? Cost?

Sorry for all the noob questions, I made the mistake of a Blu starter kit once......won't do that again LOL

Geeve

I will look into the zmax here in a minute

 

[Gaspar74]

You're not thinking big enough. I want this one so bad I can taste it.

Holy moly. I can imagine trying to explain this device to non Vapers or anyone really. Lmao.

 

[bikerbeagle]

The SVD and Vamo are solid ideas in your budget range, just make sure to budget in batteries (at least 2) and a good charger (Nitecore, Pila, etc). Both have recessed eGo threading, so they both should accept the iClear16 (I'm just guessing here as I don't own either) ...or you could move up to the iClear30 / Viva Nova in size using the 510 threading.

Durability-wise, the eVic seems to have a lot of issues (based on the number of posts on these forums about them), and the SVD/Vamo just kind of falls into the "you get what you pay for" range. There is a reason why they aren't expensive.

Other devices you should consider in your price range: the iTaste MVP (boxmod, vv/vw, but no ohms meter, huge 2600mah fixed battery/passthrough) and the iTaste VV 3.0 (smaller form factor, 800mah fixed battery/passthrough, vv/vw).

 

[Fizzpop]

I should add I still use an eGo with a clearomizer when out and about. As Thin and Rocketpunk pointed out, mods are big and heavy.

 

[retired1]

Other devices you should consider in your price range: the iTaste MVP (boxmod, vv/vw, but no ohms meter, huge 2600mah fixed battery/passthrough) and the iTaste VV 3.0 (smaller form factor, 800mah fixed battery/passthrough, vv/vw).

MVP is variable voltage only. The VTR (due out this week) is VV and VW.

 

[Fizzpop]

MVP is variable voltage only. The VTR (due out this week) is VV and VW.

But if you know Ohm's Law you can calculate the voltage you need to achieve the Wattage you desire. The only difference between a variable voltage PV and an variable wattage PV is that the VW one does the math for you.

 

[geeve]

I thought about on the road as well. I will still have my eGo's so we are good there

Got it down to the Vamo V3 and the SVD.....

Still a little confused about batteries, what brand? Size?

Thanks again and keep the ideas and suggestions coming.......


Going to call around as well and see if any B&M will let me try them out

Geeve

 

[mogium]

I have had both the evic and a vamo v2. The evic hits better and will use any thing ego or 510 threaded lots of goodies to customize with it. Vamo hits harder/harsher but is built sturdy. If you plan on leaving the house with it get a vamo. If it's for home get the evic. The evic is built well but 1 too many drops will mess the head up.

 

[glasseye]

You can get an eGo twist AND a Vamo, maybe a kit, for $100. Go browse the co-ops and co-op planning since you're verified. Save money and if it comes early just give it to your wife until Christmas.
Since your batteries now aren't VV, a twist/spinner/winder is going to be like angels singing. Plus it works really well with the 16's.