NotCigs refugee thread

[El Dee]

Fran a criminal....Who woulda' thunk it?????

Bov I never assumed anything....obviously that flew right past me....

5 a good pack of pit bulls and all the criminals knowing you're a "dog man" will keep the wolves from your door....Or so I've heard...Now I rely on a Mini Pinscher and John William Browning's A-500 in 3-inch magnum....Plus I can escape in a vapor cloud need be....Smells like Snake Oil

 

[5cardstud]

Fran a criminal....Who woulda' thunk it?????

Bov I never assumed anything....obviously that flew right past me....

5 a good pack of pit bulls and all the criminals knowing you're a "dog man" will keep the wolves from your door....Or so I've heard...Now I rely on a Mini Pinscher and John William Browning's A-500 in 3-inch magnum....Plus I can escape in a vapor cloud need be....Smells like Snake Oil

LD that happened a long time ago but I feel the same about cops. It takes a different kind of person that likes to control others.

 

[FranC]

 

[El Dee]

5 some of them are control freaks for dang double sure...I restored a Chevelle for a local deputy...He was always right, never wrong and full of advice,,,I charged him accordingly,,,The only control issue I have is losing the remote from time too time....

 

[Bovinia]

Morning ladies and gents

Damn 5! That had to be pretty scarey! I'm glad their plan was foiled...I don't know about you, but after the scared wears off on me, it turns to red hot anger!

Oh wow...our mail person just delivered my RTS order! On a Sunday!!

 

[5cardstud]

5 some of them are control freaks for dang double sure...I restored a Chevelle for a local deputy...He was always right, never wrong and full of advise,,,I charged him accordingly,,,The only control issue I have is losing the remote from time too time....

Isn't that the truth. I have enough to control without worrying about other people.

Morning ladies and gents

Damn 5! That had to be pretty scarey! I'm glad their plan was foiled...I don't know about you, but after the scared wears off on me, it turns to red hot anger!

Oh wow...our mail person just delivered my RTS order! On a Sunday!!

It did Bo. When I found out who did it I borrowed my brothers shotgun (wanted to make sure I didn't miss) and put the word out I'd pay anyone that got them to try again.

 

[JerryRM]

During the 1968 Democratic convention protests in Chicago, the local newspapers were filled with stories and pics of the Chicago cops going nuts, clubbing and arresting anyone who was on the streets. I cut one of the pics out of the paper, of a snarling cop, about to club the reporter who had just taken his picture. I hung it on my wall, to remind me that they weren't the nice, friendly people, that I was led to believe they were, when I was a child.

 

[JerryRM]

Ya know what makes it worse? The law that states that the people can't resist an arrest, be it legal or ILLEGAL. The cops can arrest anyone, at any time, for any or no reason and get away with it. That was acceptable in Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia, but it should not be acceptable here !!!

 

[Bovinia]

Total change of subject here, please feel free to return to it momentarily.

Katie told me that if I wasn't too stubborn to wear a hat when I go outside, I wouldn't have an ear ache...so I remedied that situation today! Behold, the new hat

 

[5cardstud]

Jerry they better have a damn good reason if they're going to arrest me or I'll lawyer up in a minute and get an unlawful arrest suit going. Then they have to come up with a good reason or pay me. I'm not out and about enough any more to get arrested though.

 

[JerryRM]

It doesn't take much to rile them, 5card. A couple of years ago, I was waiting for an opening, to cross a street. A cop stopped and waved me across. There were no other cars on the road, except him, so I waved him on, figuring that I could cross after he drove on. Much to my surprise, he became angry and again, waved me across. I couldn't believe that my waving at him to go on, had angered him, but it did. Rather than risk an arrest, for no reason other than politeness, I crossed.

 

[JerryRM]

Total change of subject here, please feel free to return to it momentarily.

Katie told me that if I wasn't too stubborn to wear a hat when I go outside, I wouldn't have an ear ache...so I remedied that situation today! Behold, the new hat

You is a silly girl, Bov !!!!!

 

[5cardstud]

You did the right thing Jerry. I would of crossed too. When in Rome do as the Romans.

 

[FranC]

Like the hat,Bov

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

I have to go against the grain here.

Cops have an it's us versus them mentality. Can you really, in your heart of hearts, blame them? If your everyday job meant dealing with the worst trash that humanity has produced, wouldn't you develop a thick skin?

Yes, 5C, many of them have taken that and given license to themselves to become essentially organized crime elements.

But the street-level cop? Lots of bad apples there as well, but for the most part? Kids doing a hellish job, placing themselves between myself and hell.

 

[FranC]

 

[5cardstud]

Like any profession PI there are good ones and there are bad ones. My gripe is they put them in a position to become bad. There needs to be a little more oversight and checks and balances. I've known some really good cops that are nice guys and do their jobs well but I know too many of them that are thugs, thieves, and bullies.
I knew a couple detectives that were selling drugs. The same drugs they arrested another person for having and selling. The good ones I know think the same way I do about the bullies. There's no reason for it.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

No argument there, 5C. The higher up in the profession you go, the more irresistible the temptation to go bad becomes. Did you ever see the movie Prince of the City*, or read the biography by the same name, or the autobiography All the Centurions by the Robert Leuci, the cop that went full-circle, from good to bad then good again? The flight path was chilling and very dangerous, something I'd never muster the courage to do myself.

My argument is that the large number of street cops, kids that do an invaluable, very thankless but anonymous job get kicked in the ... over the misdeeds of a relatively few, highly celebrated desk-jockey miscreants.

*I mention this because the cop in question did exactly as you mentioned—busted drug pushers, confiscated their inventory, then resold it.

 

[FranC]

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

And good morning to you, Fran