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Long post - I'm an engineer, like to try and figure out what happens when stuff fails. I'll be sending something like this with a photo and drawing to a guy who knows leach fields, see if he agrees that what I'm thinking makes sense.

I've found what looks like fragments of a cap that used to be on top of that box. About 2 - 2-1/2" thick, with rebar

We did have a sinkhole pop a couple years back, a depression, in that area.


Theory:

Old original leach pipe ran N-S from the septic, then an east-west leg through the middle of that 18 x 27 man-made pan. There may have been another section to that box, the one with the pipe flanges, then the cap on top (a distribution box).

Something failed over time, the pipe going downhill (N-S) that ran along the east edge of the property.

They cut in a new piece of pipe, using a 45 connector, above the failure point.

They clean cut the existing east - west piece of pipe, removed the piece with the flanges, put the cap back on the bottom pan section.

The new piece of pipe ran diagonally over the now lower cap, connecting to another new piece of pipe going east-west. There is a clearly newer piece of thin wall just south of the box, with a connector that would have attached to the diagonal run of pipe coming from the north.

Catastrophic cap failure = little sinkhole/depression. Earth drop completely fragmented the piece running over the cap. Downward push jacked the pipe so it tried to bend - that's why it comes up on the uphill outside edge at an upward angle (trying to bend around the concrete pan lip). Pipe trying to bend was a "shock", caused the pipe caving in on the upper center line.

I've dug out further on the diagonal pipe coming in from the northeast, may have reached a non-failed piece where I can cut in a new section. Close to the fence, but there should be enough room to get a hacksaw in, with some careful digging around the pipe.

This has been a fun, moving lots of earth by hand [emoji3] Fortunately we've had some relatively cool weather for a few days, just turning hot tomorrow.

Net, best I can tell all would have been fine if they had just removed the old box completely when they cut in the patch. The failure of that concrete cap, with a 6-1/2" void to the bottom, is why the new leach pipe failed. Alternately if they filled the box with stone or dirt, no problem.
 
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    Speaking of cool weather...I have my windows open, cooking dinner in the oven, and it's only 69 degrees in the house! In the middle of June, in the south!! I might have to put some socks on :lol:
    Better enjoy while you can,
     

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    Dang that septic drain pipe brings back bad memories.....Still loving my little Kubota back hoe that I purchased then....still paying for it to........So far so good on the drainage though.....

    So exactly one month past the popcorn ceiling hitting the floor there's new sheetrock with fresh paint and a new led light.....That was a pain in the word that'll get censored....Next up are the walls and a small foyer at the back door....The finish work in the foyer leaves room for improvement....All these years I've never noticed how rough the finish work was.....Great Grandad Wood and Great Uncle Watson Wood did the work....Trying to sort the ceiling bombed so I'm leaving their work as is in their honor.....Then the cabinets loom....

    Top all that with the tree man dropping a large River Birch last week....It's mostly all on top of a large Azalea right beside the creek....I've got the dump trailer backed in nearby but so far there are no branches in it....

    Then as if......The beach grass is azz deep to a giraffe....I've had the mower ready for a month at least but to pushed to go down there....I'm calling time on the kitchen and going Thursday....Coming back Friday though as I gotta get those cabinets off my back....

    The sun has been a no show for days....raining full bore and cold.....The gas logs popped on last night and I was kinda glad to see the fire....Went out in the rain and hooked a fresh tank to my small heater as it was out and I wanted to burn the top off my full tank before the sun really bakes it....Mom took a fall three weeks back and skins her leg up good....been swollen the whole time and she had a couple trips to the Doc....getting better now....Unc C took a bad sprain to the ankle and his wife{Mom's Sis} Gaynelle hurt her back....they better....I about fell off that step stool working on that ceiling about 300 times but so far I managed to use my cat like reflexes to not break a hip.....Always tomorrow though.....

    Lest I forget....Let me clearly state I heard this and am not living in it....Concerns Cuzzo's Ex that I've ranted on many times....Little background....After Ex had knifed Cuzzo in the back she told a mutual friend she just wanted to have fun....Well Ex stole the mutual friend's man so they enemies now...Mutual friend got him back and I'm over here like ???????? Anyway that fun.....2 weeks back South Carolina opens the bars up....Ex and her friend go from Carolina to Myrtle Beach to bar hop....All weekend in the same hotel room and car...Returning on Monday the friend.....the friend comes down with a fever....tests positive for the Rona...Ex reported having a bad dry cough Sunday and she is rather sickly anyways....Cuzzo has a son and daughter in their 20s....daughter was living with Ex for the summer in their brand new 3 story condo at Carolina Beach....The whole get away to Myrtle Beach was due to a huge fight the Ex started with her daughter who went back to Minnesota this afternoon....Man it's crazy....Now Miss Fun is sitting all alone in her new condo coming down with the Rona...Yeah I laughed....Not that much though.....We've been checking the mail for a 3k check for fixing that hole in her parent's floor....It all is what it is....Fun can come at a cost.....
     

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    Looking good, time to fill the hole...
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    Mark, I know that's one job you are glad to be done with!

    Dang, Dee! I know I don't have to say it, but...stay away from that bunch! Sooner or later, what goes around, comes around. Not that I'd wish it on anyone, but couldn't have happened to a more deserving person as Cuzzo's ex.
     

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    Hello loves!
    I sure hope you’re all staying well and enjoying the brand new summer 2020!
    We have been staying low key up here in the backyard so far. We don’t plan on going to our annual beach romp this year and that’s pretty (rhymes with yucky) but maybe squeeze in a day trip or two? Undecided. I feel mostly bad for Maddie to miss it as she really looks forward to it, as do I!

    Some of you saw on fb that my cousin passed on Saturday morning. It was unexpected (heart attack) so a bit of a shock to all, but she had just found out Thursday or Friday that her cancer had not only returned (beat colon cancer 3 years ago, but 85% chance of reoccurring) but was all through her. Covid kept her inside as she got a warning just prior that it may have returned.
    So, finding out all of that, she was looking at a dismal rest of her days and I do believe that God spared her all of that and said “no more.” <3
    The truly most heart breaking thing is that she was to become a first time grandmother around July 4th, and couldn’t wait to hold her grandson in her arms! Two weeks. Just two more weeks. :( Kills me! I know she’s up there having the best time reuniting with loved ones gone before her, living it up free of cancer and the crippling lung disease that halted so much of her life, and for that I find comfort.

    It’s off to work for me today and so I must get finished getting ready.

    hugs to all and enjoy your day!!
     

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    Hello loves!
    I sure hope you’re all staying well and enjoying the brand new summer 2020!
    We have been staying low key up here in the backyard so far. We don’t plan on going to our annual beach romp this year and that’s pretty (rhymes with yucky) but maybe squeeze in a day trip or two? Undecided. I feel mostly bad for Maddie to miss it as she really looks forward to it, as do I!

    Some of you saw on fb that my cousin passed on Saturday morning. It was unexpected (heart attack) so a bit of a shock to all, but she had just found out Thursday or Friday that her cancer had not only returned (beat colon cancer 3 years ago, but 85% chance of reoccurring) but was all through her. Covid kept her inside as she got a warning just prior that it may have returned.
    So, finding out all of that, she was looking at a dismal rest of her days and I do believe that God spared her all of that and said “no more.” <3
    The truly most heart breaking thing is that she was to become a first time grandmother around July 4th, and couldn’t wait to hold her grandson in her arms! Two weeks. Just two more weeks. :( Kills me! I know she’s up there having the best time reuniting with loved ones gone before her, living it up free of cancer and the crippling lung disease that halted so much of her life, and for that I find comfort.

    It’s off to work for me today and so I must get finished getting ready.

    hugs to all and enjoy your day!!
    I did see that on fb,Tracy. So sorry for your loss.:(
     

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    I'm sorry for your family's loss, Tracy. I love the way you are looking at the fact that she has been spared the suffering she had ahead of her, tho :wub:

    Yesterday was the deck estimate, but it got postponed. Tammy called to let me know she had to go to the Dr for her allergies, but Dr insisted she be tested for Covid-19 before he'll write her a script. That means not only is she "grounded" until her results are back, but also her husband, Mike...so he couldn't come over even without her. Results should be back Thurs or Friday. I told her no apologies necessary!! Just praying that she comes back negative! She's not concerned about the test, she had to jump thru the same hoops in March for the same allergies/sinus infection.

    Otherwise, all is well here. I've started taking Bella for much shorter walks in this heat. Walk her about half a mile, drop her back in the house, and I continue on the rest of the 3 mile journey. I'm a wilted flower, I tell yall :lol:
     

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    I'm sorry for your family's loss, Tracy. I love the way you are looking at the fact that she has been spared the suffering she had ahead of her, tho :wub:

    Yesterday was the deck estimate, but it got postponed. Tammy called to let me know she had to go to the Dr for her allergies, but Dr insisted she be tested for Covid-19 before he'll write her a script. That means not only is she "grounded" until her results are back, but also her husband, Mike...so he couldn't come over even without her. Results should be back Thurs or Friday. I told her no apologies necessary!! Just praying that she comes back negative! She's not concerned about the test, she had to jump thru the same hoops in March for the same allergies/sinus infection.

    Otherwise, all is well here. I've started taking Bella for much shorter walks in this heat. Walk her about half a mile, drop her back in the house, and I continue on the rest of the 3 mile journey. I'm a wilted flower, I tell yall :lol:
    I’d be wilting in that heat but I guess ours is bad enough.
     

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    Working tomorrow for my boss who is self quarantining after vacationing at Myrtle Beach and coming home to find she was there the same week that all those students from Ohio and West Virginia came home and tested positive.
    Better safe than sorry.
    Did your boss get tested?
     

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    I can say that I have never seen weather like this before. The unending heat, 90’s do not agree with me. We might get a shorter hot spell in July or August but this is only June and I’ve never seen anything like it. Thank goodness for a cooler day today at 85.....LOL
     

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    She hasn’t gotten tested yet that I know of. She gave her two shifts to my coworker and I this week. By next Wednesday her two weeks are up.
    I usually work solo the first 2 hours of my regular days...tomorrow I am solo for 6!!!! Pass the aspirin please. Haha

    Nah, I got this!

    I was happier for the cooler temps today too Fran! Wow it’s been HOT!
     

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    She hasn’t gotten tested yet that I know of. She gave her two shifts to my coworker and I this week. By next Wednesday her two weeks are up.
    I usually work solo the first 2 hours of my regular days...tomorrow I am solo for 6!!!! Pass the aspirin please. Haha

    Nah, I got this!

    I was happier for the cooler temps today too Fran! Wow it’s been HOT!
    I’m happy no more 90’s for a few days anyway.
     

    Bovinia

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    Glad yall got a break in the heat! If I wasn't too lazy to get up early, it wouldn't be so bad. Early evenings aren't any better for Bella because the pavement and sidewalks are still hot enough to burn the pads of her paws.

    Keeping my fingers crossed for your boss, Tracy! And yes, GF...you got this!!
     
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