Nude Nicotine 2.0 - Chemically Validated Nicotine Base and eLiquid - Ask your NN Chemistry-Related Questions Here

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thejaker

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@ thejaker Good to see you guys are doing good. I've been outta the loop for a while, But had to pop in to chime in.

A couple years ago I bought a bunch of nic, wiz, rts, mfs. Have a freezer full of it. Then I tried nude when no one else was in stock.

yaddayaddayadda, I cant stand vaping any of this other nic.

Thanks again NUDE NICOTINE!

Whats up Kevin!!! Hope all is well with you too man :) Anything new to report this way?I could go on and on with us @the lab lol
 

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Thanks for taking the time to explain, but this is just not making sense at all :confused:

First this:



...which seems clear, that some kind of molecule that achieves 'creamy buttery custard' taste IS added.

Then this (correcting the previous typo of "acetoin free" ):



...so any batches with diacetyl over the LOD (limit of detection .4mg/mL), were disposed of, and "bases manufactured with acetoin" replaced the diacetyl (which seems that acetoin is added).

Now this (from above):



Something has to be added to a non-creamy natural flavor/extraction to create a creamy flavor, right? Example: Coffee Creme flavor. Those of us that have made our own coffee extractions know that they are not creamy on their own...some type of creamy flavor has to be added to make them creamy. But it seems like you're saying that the creaminess comes from the 'natural material', and the acetoin molecule is not added (but you say above that you have substituted acetoin in place of diacetyl) :blink:

...but then acetoin (and/or other man/lab created molecules) are added, right?

Please clarify! (as soon as you have the time, of course :)

Also (just fwiw), regarding 'undetectable amounts'...

Frustratingly for those learning more & more about these 'inhalation risk chemicals' (diacetyl, acetoin & acetyl propionyl), typical "under the limit" testing (less than .4mg/mL) is a cause for concern. For example, if a chemical is present at a mere .2mg/mL ("non detected"), then that equates to 200,228 ppb. If it's present at .35mg/mL (still "non detetcted), then it's present at 350,399 ppb. And with the suggested NIOSH RELs (recommended exposure limits), being 8-31ppb for inhalation/vapor, even mixed at 5% into an e-juice is cause for concern.

I've got white particals around the bottle threads of my patchouli vanilla. It's caked on and when I turn the cap on or off they grind/flake off. I too would like to know what that is, specifically.

Also, if the testing only goes to .4, that is a problem. Jake, can you advise what flavors are or should be absolutely positively 100% free of those ingredients? If you could also advise what flavors acetoin or acetyl were added to, definitively, that would be nice/required. As it stands now I cannot use any of these flavors. I'd like to at least use some of them but without clarification I cannot use any of them.

We2,
I'm terrible at math :) According to my math I'd have to use these flavors at .001% to make sure my liquid is within REL. If you don't mind, could you check my math? If not, I understand as math is a terrible, terrible evil put on Earth to torment and confuse people... Well... Me at least.

hate to beat a dead horse but itd be nice to know some of this.. ive been vaping for a few years and have been weary about flavoring. if its possible to list which flavors have these 3 chemicals in them id be more inclined to exclusively buy from you guys

also i know the white particles were nothing to worry about..
 

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Hello Jake

is there any luck to get your products sent in France now ?
(I was going to checkout a cart when I saw the country is a pre-defined list :( )

Even getting only concentrates aromas diluted in VG would be great, if you're not allowed to send nic to europe, because I didn't found any of this type here :/

Yes I want to taste that shirley temple aroma !

Thank you
JJ
 
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kas122461

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Ok weird question - but is there a way to track a package from Nude Nicotine? If so please let me know. Thank You in advance:vapor:

I ordered from them about 2 months ago, and the weird part is that the tracking info was sent to me from Bull city vapor, very strange. It was the correct tracking and got to me okay, so I never questioned it. But weird! :confused:

KAS
 

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I have a few questions and suggestion.

First what is the VG made from what plant.soy,palm coconut....and is there a diffrence between them..I'd like a VG that is flavorless and not to sweet, and does the plant source influence visosity at all..Is the VG a byproduct of the bio-desiel proscees which may contain animal fats or is it produced to be VG solelly..

Something I'd always wondered about and as you guys are into chemistry I thought I'd suggest something...why don't you produce a line of flavorings that are made with a CO2 extraction method...that method seems to produce the best flavors...
 

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I have a question for Nude Nicotine - how do you get 5ml in a dram bottle - I know for a fact you can not get it all in. So why not say 4ml in your flavoring descriptions?
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A liquid dram is 3.7ml, not 4. Have you bought them and measured the contents yourself? How are you coming to the conclusion that the small vials are liquid drams?


I just spent over $100 on my first order from them yesterday, including some 5ml flavorings. To settle this, I think I might draw the contents of one into a 5ml syringe and post a picture to verify how much is in it. Considering how much I spent, I really hope I'm not getting ripped off by over 25% of the advertised amount with the flavorings.
 

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A liquid dram is 3.7ml, not 4. Have you bought them and measured the contents yourself? How are you coming to the conclusion that the small vials are liquid drams?


I just spent over $100 on my first order from them yesterday, including some 5ml flavorings. To settle this, I think I might draw the contents of one into a 5ml syringe and post a picture to verify how much is in it. Considering how much I spent, I really hope I'm not getting ripped off by over 25% of the advertised amount with the flavorings.

I'm betting Dixie referenced the 4ml since that's a common limit for the 3.7ml DRAM bottles... I would also like to know why it's listed as 5ml!
 

shreduhsoreus

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5ml vials DO contain 5ml of whatever the contents are, with variance of a fraction of a ml depending on how close they got to the top.

While I was making my first mixes with the Nude Nicotine flavorings, I drew 2.5ml into a pipette. It was exactly(or pretty damn close to the point where the difference is trivial) to half of the bottle.
 
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