I think that's one of the controversies. From my understanding, inhalants need to be pharmacetical grade, however that is hard to come by and very expensive. Food grade is next in line and that's what everyone is using. It sounds as if there's a range within food grade but what that is, I don't know. This is one of those things I'd like to know more about.
- Status
I think that's one of the controversies. From my understanding, inhalants need to be pharmacetical grade, however that is hard to come by and very expensive. Food grade is next in line and that's what everyone is using. It sounds as if there's a range within food grade but what that is, I don't know. This is one of those things I'd like to know more about.
Depends on what the 0.3% is? More than likely the 0.3% is water and any "bad stuff" is not measurable without a greater degree of accuracy, i.e. testing for parts per million (PPM). 99.5% VG is sufficient for a USP grade.
Disclaimer: I'm only repeating what I've read in other posts.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...discussion/47802-vg-vs-usp-glycerin-help.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/70232-glycerine.html
Yeah . I've seen food grade that isn't quite 100 percent, popular brands at that. Some on Amazon. Don't want to stray too far from the threads topic though. :thumbup:
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
My understanding of Vg/Pg purity @ 100% is...once it's transfered to smaller containers it's considered contaminated. By water and air it gains though the siphoning process only. No added materials are added. Stuff advertised at the 95% are not pure enough for vaping. Hit your web search engine for info. It's out there, in tact.
Your pricing for nicotine is better than most. The one place that is less expensive and of high and reliable quality, always seems to be out of stock. Though my last purchase was from them, my next will likely be from Nude Nicotine!
Things are great here! San Diego is having it's late summer heat wave, so I can't complain in the least. And absolutely! I always figured more information than less is a good thing, and I try not to scare everyone away with the amount of detail behind everything we do. I've found if you take the time to explain your process in enough depth, most everyone will begin to understand the depth of information they need to know anyways. Again, that's why we like to be so transparent with what we do.
The thing we would need to find out here is what is the extra 0.3% comprised of. If it's excess distilled water from their distillation, then no worries, use it all! If it's a series of fractionated contaminants from the distillation process, then we might want to stay away. Can you post a picture of the label? Let's see what we can come up with here.
Thank you VERY much for your order! Again, I apologize that we couldn't offer a coupon for our nicotine base. However, it's not completely out of the cards for the near future
Food grade is most definitely acceptable for electronic cigarette use. It's worth investigating the MSDS sheet with the manufacturer however to confirm. Laboratory-grade glycerin for cell culture is VERY expensive. At $93/L at sigma-aldrich, it might be worth it for the laboratory experiment or two, but not for large-scale production at the moment.
You are absolutely correct. USP guidelines denote PG and VG are packaged in a dryroom in VERY low humidity. PG and VG are extremely hygroscopic and will suck large amounts of water out of the atmosphere. Also, if you break a seal from a USP-approved product in a non-USP-approved facility, the USP certification is immediately invalidated. This goes for anything involving USP products
Thanks jac! We always keep our freezers stocked. That 'one' supplier may place their nicotine orders in larger bulk for savings, but we feel it necessary to pay for extra shipping as to always have a fresh, regular supply for everyone out there
So I ordered (2) 500ml bottles of 100mg nic, and repackaged them into 120ml bottles. Unfortunately, I can't remember if I shook both of the original 500ml bottles before repackaging. Should I pour them all into a 1+liter bottle, make sure it's thoroughly blended, and re-repack them? Or (as I'm guessing) are they mixed well enough at your facility (and during transit) that I don't have to worry about it?
Can the nicotine settle out or rise to the top of the PG or VG bases?
Thanks!
Can the nicotine settle out or rise to the top of the PG or VG bases?
Thanks!
One more question: Do you have batch or lot numbers for the nicotine? I looked but didn't see one on the nicotine bottles or on the invoice.
That is a great idea to ensure you mixed them properly. And yes, the nicotine itself has a lighter density than the PG or VG, and will tend to settle. So make sure you mix thoroughly beforehand!
As for the lot numbers, we include a date of manufacture inscribed on the certificate of analysis you should have received in your package. We are in the process of cataloging our bottles with internal lot numbers, but it is just as easy as tying the date of manufacture with a 'lot number' of your choice
Congrats to ECF member 'yellowsnow' for winning our eliquid chemistry set giveaway this morning!
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...our-eliquid-laboratory-win-chemistry-set.html
And as I promised, this won't be the last eliquid chemistry-related giveaway we do. What would you guys like to see next?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...our-eliquid-laboratory-win-chemistry-set.html
And as I promised, this won't be the last eliquid chemistry-related giveaway we do. What would you guys like to see next?
Thanks for this contest, and congrats to yellowsnow! How about a contest where the winner is the person with the most bottles of flavoring? I might actually have a shot at winning that one
It's time for me to place an order for nic base, but first want to ask a question: how long would the 70/30 12mg mix last in my freezer? I will, of course, transfer it to amber glass before storage.
Thanks, and I look forward to receiving some Nude Nicotine!
Last edited:
Thanks for this contest, and congrats to yellowsnow! How about a contest where the winner is the person with the most bottles of flavoring? I might actually have a shot at winning that one
It's time for me to place an order for nic base, but first want to ask a question: how long would the 70/30 12mg mix last in my freezer? I will, of course, transfer it to amber glass before storage.
Thanks, and I look forward to receiving some Nude Nicotine!
There's nothing wrong with you showing us a picture of why you'd think you'd win
As for the 12mg/mL, it should stay properly intact for many years assuming you are sealing out most of the oxygen and it is kept in a -20 Celsius freezer. 12mg/mL is fairly low compared to the more concentrated stuff most of us handle, so I would like to predict a good 2-3 years, maybe longer, assuming proper storage conditions. Remember, oxygen out, uv light out, heat out, good to go!
Looking forward to your order! Thank you very much for your business!
Got my package Jake! Everything looks great. I really appreciate the analysis certificate and the lab gear.
Question, is it imperative I transfer it to my brown amber glass bottle right away? I won't be opening it for a while I still have about 200ml of premade base I have to go through.
Question, is it imperative I transfer it to my brown amber glass bottle right away? I won't be opening it for a while I still have about 200ml of premade base I have to go through.
My gallons of PG and VG should be in tomorrow from essentials depot so I'll be in business heh.
Last edited:
There's nothing wrong with you showing us a picture of why you'd think you'd win
As for the 12mg/mL, it should stay properly intact for many years assuming you are sealing out most of the oxygen and it is kept in a -20 Celsius freezer. 12mg/mL is fairly low compared to the more concentrated stuff most of us handle, so I would like to predict a good 2-3 years, maybe longer, assuming proper storage conditions. Remember, oxygen out, uv light out, heat out, good to go!
Looking forward to your order! Thank you very much for your business!
I would, but I'm not done stocking up yet
Just placed my order. Thanks so much for the storage info!
How many of you would be interested in seeing Nude Nicotine carry laboratory-sourced eLiquid DIY supplies for you to pair with your orders? Like if you do, or comment why/why not!
Thinking of stocking up on various nicotine-approved plastic containers, glass storage bottles, measurement-wares, etc
I'll echo several others: long-term storage bottles (glass 120's, 60's, 30's) with the cone liners. Stocking up is hot right now, and probably will be until the FDA gets around to starting the Nicapocalypse. A one-stop shop, while not a necessity, is certainly a nice thing.
Quality plastic syringes and dispensing needles are also high on my list. I'm also considering a couple of glass syringes for the tank-wrecking flavors, but those probably wouldn't be a big seller.
I personally don't deal with measurement or transfer equipment beyond syringes right now. Since I'm only mixing in batches of 30ml or less, it's just not worth the added hassle to me. My taste buds cant tell the difference between 1.5ml and 1.52ml of flavoring, especially in bigger batches.
I would, but I'm not done stocking up yet
Good! Progress pics!
You're very welcome! We are here to promote safety as much as we are our product. You can keep them in the PET plastic for 6 months or so. Longer than that it might be a good idea to transfer to glass
I would, but I'm not done stocking up yet
Just placed my order. Thanks so much for the storage info!
Absolutely
Ask away with any other questions about your formulations, mixing, etc you would like. It's an open forum here!I'll echo several others: long-term storage bottles (glass 120's, 60's, 30's) with the cone liners. Stocking up is hot right now, and probably will be until the FDA gets around to starting the Nicapocalypse. A one-stop shop, while not a necessity, is certainly a nice thing.
Quality plastic syringes and dispensing needles are also high on my list. I'm also considering a couple of glass syringes for the tank-wrecking flavors, but those probably wouldn't be a big seller.
I personally don't deal with measurement or transfer equipment beyond syringes right now. Since I'm only mixing in batches of 30ml or less, it's just not worth the added hassle to me. My taste buds cant tell the difference between 1.5ml and 1.52ml of flavoring, especially in bigger batches.
Glass bottles will be on their way shortly to start, and many more DIY items to come, especially syringes as you noted
Are you mixing in the 30mL droppers you are using or separate conicals?
I'll echo several others: long-term storage bottles (glass 120's, 60's, 30's) with the cone liners. Stocking up is hot right now, and probably will be until the FDA gets around to starting the Nicapocalypse. A one-stop shop, while not a necessity, is certainly a nice thing.
Quality plastic syringes and dispensing needles are also high on my list. I'm also considering a couple of glass syringes for the tank-wrecking flavors, but those probably wouldn't be a big seller.
I personally don't deal with measurement or transfer equipment beyond syringes right now. Since I'm only mixing in batches of 30ml or less, it's just not worth the added hassle to me. My taste buds cant tell the difference between 1.5ml and 1.52ml of flavoring, especially in bigger batches.
I bought an assortment of 3ml, 6ml & 12ml high quality Luer Lock Monoject syringes dirt cheap from
Drs. Foster and Smith - Monoject syringes
I've used them with plenty of tank crackers with no visible damage. Just rinse soon after use.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
