Hard to tell from that angle but looks like it needs to go higher, The Nuppin air holes are pretty high up. bottom of my coils are very near the top of the center post.
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I'd suggest a simple dual setup, 28 or 29g netting .5ish ohms (should be about 7 wraps of 28 on a 1/16" mandrel) so you can get your placement and wicking dialled in.
This thing will outperform the cyclone (IMveryHO) when you set it up right.
The coils actually sit surprisingly high to meet the air holes and I even run one coil higher than the other (hey, it works for me, and pdib himself does this, too) - one is slightly lower than dead center of the air hole, the other slightly higher. Experimentation is rewarded with this atty - I know you're good with that, having found the exact right build for each of your other atties.
You should find that the Nup' hits harder than most other atties - it feels, to me, like .1ohm lower than the same build feels on, say, an Odin, and the flavour should be top of the charts good.
This thing will outperform the cyclone (IMveryHO) when you set it up right.
The coils actually sit surprisingly high to meet the air holes and I even run one coil higher than the other (hey, it works for me, and pdib himself does this, too) - one is slightly lower than dead center of the air hole, the other slightly higher. Experimentation is rewarded with this atty - I know you're good with that, having found the exact right build for each of your other atties.
You should find that the Nup' hits harder than most other atties - it feels, to me, like .1ohm lower than the same build feels on, say, an Odin, and the flavour should be top of the charts good.
I suppose it could go a tad higher. Like I said I was concerned it the coil coming into contact with the top of the cap once I put it back on. I can see coil thru the air hole when I peak thru. I have found that it definitely hits harder than most it's comparable size. The flavor just isn't as pronounced as my cyclone. I guess I'm one step in the right direction but I've only been messing with this thing for about 12 hours. Took me months to find my liking with the cyclone/rm5.
Still trying to figure out how to install coils a lot easier that what I actually did. I watched some videos but couldn't make it look as easy as the videos. I'll keep playing with it and see what comes of it. I know it has a lot more potential as stated before.
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Depending on how low the drip tip goes there is still a lot of room above your coil
Twist up some 26ga and use 4/5 wraps on a 1/16 (.5ohm)
Be careful the warm thick vapor might choke you and the drip tip gets a tad bit warm. I was surprised that the flavor is pretty good with this build as well. This is the only build I ever used that needed the air hole full open.
Be careful the warm thick vapor might choke you and the drip tip gets a tad bit warm. I was surprised that the flavor is pretty good with this build as well. This is the only build I ever used that needed the air hole full open.
I found that if the center of my coil, (1/16" TMC), was right at the top of the post, it was in line with the AFC. IMO, the Nuppin' wasn't made to be vaped as a single coil atty unless you are vaping something like MM. It begs to be vaped in dual coil configuration. So far the best setup I have found was a dual 26g 1/16" TMC 6/7 wrap @.33Ω...
I agree with FB 100%
Looks like you are on the right track but you will find more flavor if you raise your coil. Try center coil / center air hole and see what you think and go up and/or down from there.
Looks like you are on the right track but you will find more flavor if you raise your coil. Try center coil / center air hole and see what you think and go up and/or down from there.
So I took all your advice and raised the coils up more and also built dual coils. About 7 wraps of 28g, 5/64 bit (.58 ohms) on meter. I got a noticeable improvement in flavor. Smooth warmish vape, will change im sure when my cloud chaser tip arrives. Anyway here are some photos. Thanks fellas.
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Hey jet just an FYI.... Don't get me wrong not a know it all but I've been building for quite awhile but relatively new to the nuppin myself...... In the first pic above I can see that your coils can't be centered in the air slots because there not centered...? Also the second and third pics show your elevation is a little off ones higher than the other..... I don't know if it's such exacting measurements need to be taken but if your Nupin isn't producing awesome flavor I would start with tweaking center and elevation in the middle of your air slots....... I'm loving mine...... Soooo close to the magma..(imo)...it's better in that juice doesn't sit around in the wells.....my take anyway.
I'm at .5ish ohms w/26 gauge around 2.4mm wrapped 9/10.
I'm at .5ish ohms w/26 gauge around 2.4mm wrapped 9/10.
It is actually recommended by pdib to have one centered on the air hole and other a little higher IIRC.
I personally only run single coils ~centered on the air hole. I basically use the same build and tweak slightly for the desired outcome with each different juice.
I do have one nuppin that I try a new build in each bottle or two. Sometimes if it really bad I yank it out right away and try something else.
I personally only run single coils ~centered on the air hole. I basically use the same build and tweak slightly for the desired outcome with each different juice.
I do have one nuppin that I try a new build in each bottle or two. Sometimes if it really bad I yank it out right away and try something else.
Yeah, about the asymmetrical coil placement...
I found it by accident, but then found out pdib does this, too (on purpose). SuperX then spotted that he was running it this way, too (his was accidental, like mine).
The "trick" is that you use identical coils and just adjust the placement - since the legs are the same on both coils, the higher one will be farther from the deck edge as well. I find it just gives a "fuller" vape on the Nuppin', as if a wider range of juice vaporization takes place - some for lusty throat hit, some for smooth flavour.
Might be wack, might not be, but I do know that I've since liked every build with asymmetrical placement better than with symmetrical. I've tried this same technique with the Mephisto and Vertex to lesser effect - possibly a side effect of the Nup's design. It hits harder and throws more flavour than most other atties, and this little coil placement trick seems to play to it's strengths.
I found it by accident, but then found out pdib does this, too (on purpose). SuperX then spotted that he was running it this way, too (his was accidental, like mine).
The "trick" is that you use identical coils and just adjust the placement - since the legs are the same on both coils, the higher one will be farther from the deck edge as well. I find it just gives a "fuller" vape on the Nuppin', as if a wider range of juice vaporization takes place - some for lusty throat hit, some for smooth flavour.
Might be wack, might not be, but I do know that I've since liked every build with asymmetrical placement better than with symmetrical. I've tried this same technique with the Mephisto and Vertex to lesser effect - possibly a side effect of the Nup's design. It hits harder and throws more flavour than most other atties, and this little coil placement trick seems to play to it's strengths.
They are lined up in the air holes just fine. My coils are only 7 wraps of 28g and not as wide as the air holes on the cap, I can clearly see both ends of the coils in the air holes on both sides. If they're off, then their off by a fraction of a mm and it's not enough to cause me any pain trying to readjust. As for the height of the coils, it was recommended to me to try one higher than the other, so I did. Its definitely a much better improvement than before, but I still get killer flavor from my cyclone which I keep going back too. It took me a while to find a coil that I love in the cyclone, so I'm sure I'll mess with this for about a month or so trying to tweak and build coils until I find something that will make it taste better than the cyclone. Right now the cyclone is still winning, the nuppins getting their though.
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I run mine in single coil mode on DNA 40's and with the same build in both, I like my Cyclone's better to 
I mean it just inches it out by a bit.
I have never tried my nuppin with Kanthol or dual coils so I can't say about that.
IMO there both awesome atty's But the Cyclone has this hold on me, I just love it!
I mean it just inches it out by a bit.I have never tried my nuppin with Kanthol or dual coils so I can't say about that.
IMO there both awesome atty's But the Cyclone has this hold on me, I just love it!
Here's two killer vaping attys - both with identical builds
Nuppin coil height eccentricity
Nuppin coil height eccentricity
I hear you. I've toyed with the Nuppin on and off for days and FINALLY just landed a build yesterday that I really like. My coils aren't asymettrical but I'll give it a shot soon. Guess I'm just saying, for me at least it is worth the fiddling to find the good vape. I finally like the Nuppin. I had almost given up hope
Unless you're lucky and nail a build on the first couple tries, the Nuppin takes time to master. For me, I tried a number of builds, then just put it down and let it rest. Finally went back to her and got a great build in. So don't give up!
Yeah man, I can see how this little nuppin is gonna be tricky! I know exactly what your talking about when it comes to mastering atomizers. I have mastered my rm5 and my cyclone. I guess to me it's more of a personal thing for me to see if I can master this one quicker than it took with the others. I'll get it, I haven't given up on it.
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Hey JetMac, I've been down the exact road you're on. I bet I've put 12 or more builds of all sorts on my Nuppin that I've had since just before Christmas. I just couldn't find the flavor I get from my dual coil RM3.
I was about to throw in the towel and tried one last build a week ago that is the best I've found on it yet. Dual twisted 30g 6 wraps around a 1/16 bit that comes in around 0.4 ohms with the asymmetrical coil placement. One of our brethren suggested that twisted coils provide more flavor so I figured I'd give that a shot. Thank God it worked! I can't say that the flavor is the "same" as the RM3 because the vapor production from the Nuppin is just different - good but different. I find a fuller, smoother vape from it as compared to the RM3. Seems the RM3 has a crisper flavor (if that makes any sense) that I don't know that the Nuppin or other larger chambered attys can replicate.
So when I'm in the mood for the crisp flavor, I roll with the RM3 and switch to the Nuppin for a more silky feel. Also, make sure to really wash it good to get all of the machine oil taste out of it - took me a while to get off of my ... and make that happen. Hang in there and you'll find your build.
I was about to throw in the towel and tried one last build a week ago that is the best I've found on it yet. Dual twisted 30g 6 wraps around a 1/16 bit that comes in around 0.4 ohms with the asymmetrical coil placement. One of our brethren suggested that twisted coils provide more flavor so I figured I'd give that a shot. Thank God it worked! I can't say that the flavor is the "same" as the RM3 because the vapor production from the Nuppin is just different - good but different. I find a fuller, smoother vape from it as compared to the RM3. Seems the RM3 has a crisper flavor (if that makes any sense) that I don't know that the Nuppin or other larger chambered attys can replicate.
So when I'm in the mood for the crisp flavor, I roll with the RM3 and switch to the Nuppin for a more silky feel. Also, make sure to really wash it good to get all of the machine oil taste out of it - took me a while to get off of my ... and make that happen. Hang in there and you'll find your build.
We're running basically the same build and have had the same experiences with the Nuppin--how cool is that. Mine's twisted 29 I THINK, and it's metering right around .4 which makes no sense to me but it's a stable reading so either I'm using twisted 30 by mistake (I had some of each lying around) or something weird is up. Either way, flavorful and smooth, like silk.
Right on man, I don't have 30g, but I'm thinking of picking up some more 28 and maybe 29g. I washed it pretty good when I got it, and I'll rewash everything when it's time to rebuild. I like the asymmetrical idea for coil placement, and I think I'll rock that idea from here on out. I only run twisted 28 in my cyclone and it's amazing, and the only thing I'll build for it. IMO, no other coil build can beat it.
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