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Looking for peoples thought's on the nuppin, wondering if I should be looking for a V1 on the classies and/or ordering when the v2s are available.

Right now just using a rm2 with a single coil. Enjoying it, and lookng for another small footprint atty. Think this one would fit the bill?

Mainly searcing for something small and can provide good throathit. I vape unflavored so not to concerned how it does in that department.
 

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I get my leakage between the top cap and the sleeve that is why I say it is my style of squonking. I squonk until I see juice in the air hole....I am wondering if the brass sleeve is not polished as smooth on the inside and there are tiny grooves that allow juice to get past the orings. Just a thought......

Maybe today I will visit the hardware store and check out some new orings.

I still to this day have tried time and time again to squonk liquid out my AFC on a Nuppin' and just can't get it to come out of the AFC unless I tilt it while squonking... I must just be weird or something... I have even tried squonking with my thumb on one hand and a finger on the other at the same time...no leakage... I'm stickin' with being weird....

I realize this isn't likely to be everyones cup o' tea, but I really like it, and thought I'd show you all. I got in a Derringer DT today (SS) and since it precedes the arrival of my Derringer, I tried it on my Nuppin... I like it! May have to order yet another Derringer DT. This one may not move from the Nuppin.

I can't use a SS tip on mine. Way too hot...

The fit between o-rings and cap on all of mine is not as tight as it is on many of my other o-ring applications are. Not really loose, but also not tight. More likely than bad o-rings on all three of my Nuppin's maybe is my style of vaping. The mechanics of being a power hitter for my very long lung hits probably creates more condensation, possibly helps push it past the o-rings. But my vaping style is not going to change. If that is the reason why joose gets down to the flange on my Nup's (a flange that stops it from going further and leaking), then the new version Nup's that don't have that flange will most likely not be for me.

Your right, it might not be for you, but then again it might seal a little better and not have a problem at all...
 

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Looking for peoples thought's on the nuppin, wondering if I should be looking for a V1 on the classies and/or ordering when the v2s are available.

Right now just using a rm2 with a single coil. Enjoying it, and lookng for another small footprint atty. Think this one would fit the bill?

Mainly searcing for something small and can provide good throathit. I vape unflavored so not to concerned how it does in that department.

The Nuppin' is a super atty - small-to-midsized, and chiefly known for hitting hard for its size and maxing flavour (a moot point in your case). You can run it with either single or dual coils.

It's manufactured really well, so durable and the pieces all fit together very snugly. It's also got to be the best atty for squonking ease and effectiveness.

In terms of TH, it feels like it hits harder than most other atties, ohm for ohm - you would not be disappointed. I assume from how you describe your vaping preferences, you mostly mouth-to-lung inhale (as opposed to direct lung style), and the Nup' is fine for that - the afc provides quite a nice range of air flow options.

It would also allow you to experiment some with build types - something even the most seasoned reonaut likes to do from time to time (one OG 'naut in here just recently moved to dual coil setups after years of builds similar to what you describe).

In terms of V1 versus V2, the differences seem to be pretty much all aesthetic - I don't think one would perform better than the other (although none of us have had hands on time with the V2's). Given that V1 is sold out and V2 is just around the corner (~3 weeks, I believe), your least friction path is prolly to go with V2.
 

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Your right, it might not be for you, but then again it might seal a little better and not have a problem at all...

I'm not buying 3+ more of them at whatever their price point turns out to be on just "might", not when logically the lost flange could very well let them leak onto the mod "with my style of vaping".

They most likely will work just fine for other folks.
 

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The fit between o-rings and cap on all of mine is not as tight as it is on many of my other o-ring applications are. Not really loose, but also not tight. More likely than bad o-rings on all three of my Nuppin's maybe is my style of vaping. The mechanics of being a power hitter for my very long lung hits probably creates more condensation, possibly helps push it past the o-rings. But my vaping style is not going to change. If that is the reason why joose gets down to the flange on my Nup's (a flange that stops it from going further and leaking), then the new version Nup's that don't have that flange will most likely not be for me.

I really don't see the bottom flange being a game changer. Many atty's have no bottom flange and don't leak the Plume Veil comes to mind, plus if the juice gets by the bottom Oring the flange wont stop it any way :)

The Nuppin' is a super atty - small-to-midsized, and chiefly known for hitting hard for its size and maxing flavour (a moot point in your case). You can run it with either single or dual coils.

It's manufactured really well, so durable and the pieces all fit together very snugly. It's also got to be the best atty for squonking ease and effectiveness.

In terms of TH, it feels like it hits harder than most other atties, ohm for ohm - you would not be disappointed. I assume from how you describe your vaping preferences, you mostly mouth-to-lung inhale (as opposed to direct lung style), and the Nup' is fine for that - the afc provides quite a nice range of air flow options.

It would also allow you to experiment some with build types - something even the most seasoned reonaut likes to do from time to time (one OG 'naut in here just recently moved to dual coil setups after years of builds similar to what you describe).

In terms of V1 versus V2, the differences seem to be pretty much all aesthetic - I don't think one would perform better than the other (although none of us have had hands on time with the V2's). Given that V1 is sold out and V2 is just around the corner (~3 weeks, I believe), your least friction path is prolly to go with V2.

Nice reply Papa, pretty well sums it up. LongDraw mentions RM2. The nuppin will not fit on a standard Grand or Mini, LP is required
 

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I'm not buying 3+ more of them at whatever their price point turns out to be on just "might", not when logically the lost flange could very well let them leak onto the mod "with my style of vaping".

They most likely will work just fine for other folks.

You do realize they would sell really fast in the classies if they didn't work out for you, right? They would even sell at cost. You wouldn't have to mark them down to get rid of them... On top of that it would take all of about 10 minutes to sell them...
 

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I really don't see the bottom flange being a game changer. Many atty's have no bottom flange and don't leak the Plume Veil comes to mind, plus if the juice gets by the bottom Oring the flange wont stop it any way :)

Actually the flange does stop liquid from leaking onto your device, as long as the top cap is on there. I have never had liquid come off mine when I take off the top cap, but some others have.

***As to the non-flanged base being a game changer, who knows. This change only came about because of people using an o-ring under their atty and didn't like the aesthetics with a gap between the base and the top of the device. This way the top cap will slide all the way down and cover any gap that had occurred... Keeping that in mind, there will be a ledge, so to speak, that will keep the top cap from coming down far enough to hit the center post and create a short... It is being machined into the side wall of the top cap.
 

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I,m not surprised by your reply we basic don't agree on any thing :)

The Oring stops the leaking take it out and you will see! the flange stops nothing, try it :)

Actually the flange does stop liquid from leaking onto your device, as long as the top cap is on there. I have never had liquid come off mine when I take off the top cap, but some others have.



***As to the non-flanged base being a game changer, who knows. This change only came about because of people using an o-ring under their atty and didn't like the aesthetics with a gap between the base and the top of the device. This way the top cap will slide all the way down and cover any gap that had occurred... Keeping that in mind, there will be a ledge, so to speak, that will keep the top cap from coming down far enough to hit the center post and create a short... It is being machined into the side wall of the top cap.


The way I understood it the chamber size can be reduced with no flange, had nothing to do with the atty gap
 

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I,m not surprised by your reply we basic don't agree on any thing :)

The Oring stops the leaking take it out and you will see! the flange stops nothing, try it :)




The way I understood it the chamber size can be reduced with no flange, had nothing to do with the atty gap

WOW!!! Thank you for pointing out that we don't agree on anything! I never knew that. In fact I don't think I have ever posted a response to any of your posts, so it only makes sense...

It would only be fitting that of course we don't agree as you are talking about a different o-ring. I was referring to the o-ring that people place "under" the atty... Not the o-rings on the atty itself. It would be common sense if you removed one of the o-rings for the top cap, it would probably leak. Not what I was referring to, sorry... A lot of people didn't like the way the o-ring, "under", the atty left a gap between the atty and device. The question was posed to Peter about doing away with the flange to cover said gap... The gap is more prominent on the Sumpin', Peko, and the GDNA than with the Reo. Then the conversation turned to the fact it would also reduce the size of the chamber... Wow, there is something I would agree with you on!!! Go figure... Maybe you should go back are read the conversations that took place in Peter's thread...
 

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The Nuppin' is a super atty - small-to-midsized, and chiefly known for hitting hard for its size and maxing flavour (a moot point in your case). You can run it with either single or dual coils.

It's manufactured really well, so durable and the pieces all fit together very snugly. It's also got to be the best atty for squonking ease and effectiveness.

In terms of TH, it feels like it hits harder than most other atties, ohm for ohm - you would not be disappointed. I assume from how you describe your vaping preferences, you mostly mouth-to-lung inhale (as opposed to direct lung style), and the Nup' is fine for that - the afc provides quite a nice range of air flow options.

It would also allow you to experiment some with build types - something even the most seasoned reonaut likes to do from time to time (one OG 'naut in here just recently moved to dual coil setups after years of builds similar to what you describe).

In terms of V1 versus V2, the differences seem to be pretty much all aesthetic - I don't think one would perform better than the other (although none of us have had hands on time with the V2's). Given that V1 is sold out and V2 is just around the corner (~3 weeks, I believe), your least friction path is prolly to go with V2.

Thanks Papa. From what I had read it seemed like a great atomizer, kinda just needed to check in and make sure. Was thinking of the derringer, and still may in the future, but figured the nuppin since it is lmited might be the way to go first.

I really don't see the bottom flange being a game changer. Many atty's have no bottom flange and don't leak the Plume Veil comes to mind, plus if the juice gets by the bottom Oring the flange wont stop it any way :)



Nice reply Papa, pretty well sums it up. LongDraw mentions RM2. The nuppin will not fit on a standard Grand or Mini, LP is required

No prob steamer, got the LP grand, should have put that as the LP RM2.
 

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Thanks Papa. From what I had read it seemed like a great atomizer, kinda just needed to check in and make sure. Was thinking of the derringer, and still may in the future, but figured the nuppin since it is lmited might be the way to go first.

They're both great atties. If you favour MTL and TH, the Nup' will suit you just fine. The Derringer tends to run a little hotter and, while shorter, is wider diameter, so overhangs the catch cup a tad.

I love them both, but then I'm trying to balance both vapor and flavour.
 

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They're both great atties. If you favour MTL and TH, the Nup' will suit you just fine. The Derringer tends to run a little hotter and, while shorter, is wider diameter, so overhangs the catch cup a tad.

I love them both, but then I'm trying to balance both vapor and flavour.


Forgot to say in my other post, good catch/guess, I do MTL. Sounds like a winner. I have the threads up to catch updates on the nuppin. Thanks again.
 

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I really don't see the bottom flange being a game changer. Many atty's have no bottom flange and don't leak the Plume Veil comes to mind, plus if the juice gets by the bottom Oring the flange wont stop it any way :)

As I said at least a couple of times above, the flange is in fact stopping them from leaking on my 3 Nup's from the first run despite my power hitting. There is no proof yet the second run wouldn't leak without the flange for a power hitter.

You do realize they would sell really fast in the classies if they didn't work out for you, right? They would even sell at cost. You wouldn't have to mark them down to get rid of them... On top of that it would take all of about 10 minutes to sell them...

I know they did sell hot the first run at first and near the end with a lull in between, the second may be a totally different story though depending on how many he ended up ordering made and in which configs. But I have no interest in buying something just to turn around and resell it. As said above in my posts somewhere I could buy used from the first run as they come available if I decide not to buy from the 2nd run and still want more Nup's.

Thanks very much for all your comments and ideas... the bottom line will come in time.
 

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Finally rebuilt one of my Nuppin's. Made tight twisted 30ga with my vintage hand crank for a 3/32" dual build @ .40 ohms, and did the asymmetrical coil thing Papa touts. Gets the Router/Nup way warm with my VLLH's, but the Chai flavor and vapor are not bad at all.

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Finally rebuilt one of my Nuppin's. Made tight twisted 30ga with my vintage hand crank for a 3/32" dual build @ .40 ohms, and did the asymmetrical coil thing Papa touts. Gets the Router/Nup way warm with my VLLH's, but the Chai flavor and vapor are not bad at all.

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I'm telling you - you'll never go back to symmetrical coils again in your Nup' :)

I love chai in the Nuppin'. It really brings out all the complexity (I swear I can taste both kinds of cardamon), and I think that's what I like about the atty - not that it has 'punch in the mouth' flavour, but that it brings out the subtlety and richness (which I suppose is lost on the flavourless vapers).

BTW, Spydie, check out Crave juices - excellent organic chai.
 

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@Papa is there a post with your asymmetrical coil set-up?


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Post #828 in this thread shows a pic (by superX - he ended up with the same config by accident).

Basically, make and mount the coils as usual, and then position one with the middle of the coil even with the bottom edge of the air slot and the other with it's middle even with the top edge of its air slot. It's important the the coils are otherwise identical so as to operate evenly. You'll notice that the higher coil will also end up slightly farther from the edge of the deck than the lower coil.

Why it creates a fuller flavoured vape I can only speculate on, but I think it creates a wider range of vape characteristics (temp and air, most notably) that really bring out all the subtlety of the juice with complex flavours like chai. Could be total bunk, might not be. All I know is I get better flavour with this config than any symmetrical positioning of the same coils.
 

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I'm telling you - you'll never go back to symmetrical coils again in your Nup' :)

I love chai in the Nuppin'. It really brings out all the complexity (I swear I can taste both kinds of cardamon), and I think that's what I like about the atty - not that it has 'punch in the mouth' flavour, but that it brings out the subtlety and richness (which I suppose is lost on the flavourless vapers).

BTW, Spydie, check out Crave juices - excellent organic chai.

Agree Papa... flavor is not as intense as the build I had in it... subtle and rich, but hot if I chain vape. ;)

Thanks, will check Crave out (even though I am not much of a fan of shipping from CAN).
 
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