Nuppin'
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I got one ordered, thank you! Probably a silly question, but is there any reason to not use a copper or brass DT? Something about using metals that can tarnish makes me wonder if that's ok? TIA!
Note - that's what I ordered, brass!
I have black ones I like, but I love the way I think the brass will look, now that I have some brassy hardware (woodvil button and a nuppin sleeve) to match.
I have black ones I like, but I love the way I think the brass will look, now that I have some brassy hardware (woodvil button and a nuppin sleeve) to match.
My concern would be always having to clean the brass dt and have to clean it that much more to also clean the polish off so I don't taste the polish hehe.
Lead is considered a culprit now days, but I well remember the 40's, 50's & 60's when all my homes had lead plumbing pipes and fixtures with no issues, then most copper plumbing after. Naval brass only has a small trace of lead, so most folks would not consider it a health issue to use for vape gear. Copper alloys vary, and some do contain lead. A non issue to me considering how many home and commercial plumbing systems in this country still have lead or copper plumbing, and all the endless other things "they say" is harmful we live with every day.
I use some naval brass and copper DT's from Syner and AFC's of the same and naval brass caps on my Nuppin's, and for my uses they are non issues.
I use some naval brass and copper DT's from Syner and AFC's of the same and naval brass caps on my Nuppin's, and for my uses they are non issues.
Lead is the issue with brass. Naval brass contains less, but can still contain slight amounts of lead. Copper, if it's pure copper, will contain no lead. Copper is an element. Brass is an alloy.
As for plumbing systems: older copper plumbing systems were joined with solder which contained lead. Lead based solder, for use in plumbing systems, was outlawed several years ago. Newer copper piping systems are now joined with 'lead free' solder.
As for plumbing systems: older copper plumbing systems were joined with solder which contained lead. Lead based solder, for use in plumbing systems, was outlawed several years ago. Newer copper piping systems are now joined with 'lead free' solder.
OK, sorry to hijack the thread, but heck, the photo WILL include a REO and a Nuppin!
Anyway - gotta give a shout out to Synervape (and thanks again to Spydro for the initial referral)!
I got a brass one, and it was marred. Didn't look to me like patina, but pretty bad finish.
Shot one email, and heard back: Got instructions for how I might clean it, but more importantly, got a DETAILED apology and explanation of how it might have gotten past quality control. AND a replacement. And not just a replacement, but ALSO a SECOND tip - a new model very similar in design but with a different bore - just in case I'd prefer that.
UNBELIEVABLE walk-off home-run customer service.
And a quality product at a bargain price. WOW.
Good job, Synervape!!
Here's the shiny!
Anyway - gotta give a shout out to Synervape (and thanks again to Spydro for the initial referral)!
I got a brass one, and it was marred. Didn't look to me like patina, but pretty bad finish.
Shot one email, and heard back: Got instructions for how I might clean it, but more importantly, got a DETAILED apology and explanation of how it might have gotten past quality control. AND a replacement. And not just a replacement, but ALSO a SECOND tip - a new model very similar in design but with a different bore - just in case I'd prefer that.
UNBELIEVABLE walk-off home-run customer service.
And a quality product at a bargain price. WOW.
Good job, Synervape!!
Here's the shiny!
Happy they are working out for you Train. I love them, especial one particular design, have them on most of my Reos (but have enough of them now for all my Reos).
My very first order include 2 naval brass DT's along with others, but same model copper DT's were sent by mistake. He sent the right ones out immediately with a couple of other special ones he wanted me to try, and told me to just keep the copper ones sent in error. Synervape does have the best CS you could ever ask for. He is dead honest and takes good care of even first time buyers.
I lost tract of how many Syner DT's I already have, but a LOT of them. Even so I bought 3 more the other day because I wanted a white Delrin for my new White Mini 1.0 and a couple more black ones. I found them tonight in my mailbox, all 6 of them. He sent me a double order... yep, that's just like him.
I scored and paid for 2 more brand new SS V2 Nuppin's in the wee hours, am just waiting for payment and shipping confirmation from the seller. Will take my total number of working Nuppin's to 8. Didn't really need anymore Nuppin' SS parts, already have lots of them not being used. So I paid retail for these just to get the 2 new V2 bases.
Now the hunt continues for one more black top cap and 2 more black AFC's and I should be set with all the Nuppin's I'll ever need for my Reos (with lots of spare parts). A few more Chalice III's are still on the list though, and maybe a couple of black RM8's.
The other latest/greatest atty's being hawked do not spark much if any interest in me. I've found my main gear... Reos with Nuppin' and Chalice atty's.
Now the hunt continues for one more black top cap and 2 more black AFC's and I should be set with all the Nuppin's I'll ever need for my Reos (with lots of spare parts). A few more Chalice III's are still on the list though, and maybe a couple of black RM8's.
The other latest/greatest atty's being hawked do not spark much if any interest in me. I've found my main gear... Reos with Nuppin' and Chalice atty's.
It's great when you find what you like. The Nuppin is a great flavor atty, for sure. I have 2 of them in constant rotation on 2 of my metal Reos. Between my Nuppins and Mantas, which are on my Woodvils, I don't really hunt for the 'latest and greatest' atty anymore, unless I happen to run across more Mantas. Sadly, 2 of the best flavor attys of all time, the Nuppin and the Manta, are no longer being made.
Agree, but it's been a long and expensive road to get here. Fortunately for us that love the Nuppin' lots of folks are put off by the build mechanics of them and soon resell them. I never found the builds an issue, and far less of one now that I am putting either matched and unmatched single high parallel coils in some of them. They are especially great for my LSDLH's running just the top cap with all 3 slots wide open and no AFC. So on the list is to try is a dual high parallel in one just for S&G. I'll probably modify a topcap/AFC to four slots for that one to give it more versatility. Flavor rich vapor production ought to be off the charts.
I never had an interest in the Manta simply because I don't really like any of the 22mm atty's I bought for any of my Reos. Even trying a couple of RM8's is just a thought left over from not getting the 2 authentic Derringers from 2 runs of them I was on the list for "just to try them" because of all the hype. I don't really need them. Besides, all the other 22mm's were hyped at the time as well and didn't do it for me.
I never had an interest in the Manta simply because I don't really like any of the 22mm atty's I bought for any of my Reos. Even trying a couple of RM8's is just a thought left over from not getting the 2 authentic Derringers from 2 runs of them I was on the list for "just to try them" because of all the hype. I don't really need them. Besides, all the other 22mm's were hyped at the time as well and didn't do it for me.
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I don't normally like 22mm attys either, especially on metal Reos. They don't look too bad on Woodvils, however. For me, most 22mm attys are more hype than performance. The Manta is a little different, because even though it's a 22 atty, in size, the chamber itself is about 14.6mm, and is domed. It behaves more like a smaller atty than a 22mm. Plus, it's top air, so leaking due to over squonking is next to impossible.
I don't like the 22mm atty's on the Woodvil's either. In part I guess because I don't like big cumbersome atty's on any of my Reos, didn't like the same much back in my tube mods days either. Don't like the look, and they are all already tip over prone without making them top heavy. I get a chuckle out of folks who put big tall atty's on a tall mod, then add a 2"-3" DT on top of it. Too lazy to move an arm far enough to find the mouth I guess, or a decidedly different opinion on mod asthetics. I'm also way past wanting weird to my eyes atty's. Racy designs, outlandish features and colors are not my KISS thing. The only leakers in my stash of 22mm atty's are a Freakshow Mini and the 2 Lancia's. And like the others neither are what I consider flavor atty's. Another has worthless AFC's that do nothing and is anything buy a flavor atty as is. My line on 22mm bf atty's is a hard one I guess, but also one earned by my not liking any of them I bought ebven though they were being heavily hyped. Have quite a few rebuildable 22/23mm atty's from the tube mod days I liked well enough in their day that might work on a Reo if bf'd. Buy I see no need to bother with more than enough atty's for my Reos on hand that I do like well enough. So I am mostly upgrading to more of those I have that I like the most, and ignoring others being hyped.
I've certainly passed up on many attys that have been heavily hyped. When I have jumped on a few others, most didn't last long. Unfortunately, the 'standard' diameter of 22mm is only because 22mm has been the diameter for most popular tube mods. For those of us who use Reos, or other box type mods, there is no reason to relegate ourselves to 22mm attys. in most cases, the smaller diameter attys produce superior flavor. One recent means of compensating, has been to reduce the chamber size by making the atty shorter, instead of reducing the diameter. But, it appears as though the cloud chasers rule the market, which is why there are so many more big chamber attys available, than smaller diameter ones.
I fully understand the whys, including why the short/fat atty's came along. Same basic principle as the short/fat wildcat cartridges I made and loaded for decades for long range shooting that are more efficient and accurate. Plenty of my 22/23mm tube mod atty's were flavor atty's for me on the tube mods. Various RDA's, RBA's, RTA's and hybrids... even my 4 oddball GP Herons that are among the biggest/clunkiest/heaviest 22mm atty's there is. Some of them could be adapted to bf, but I have no interest in doing so. If for no other reason than lack of aesthetic appeal to me. The cloud chasers (and I'll add wannabee cloud chasers) probably do have a lot of influence on MFG's, are missing a good market if they do not also cater to the majority of vapers that I'd assume are not CC's. I'm only a cloud chaser in the sense that I shoot for as much condensed flavor rich vapor as an atty can muster. As said way easier to do with smaller chambers, but even some otherwise large/bulky atty's do have fairly small chambers.
Yeah, I've had some crazy big attys, from my tube mod days, that might be easily converted to bottom feed; but I have no interest in doing so. One of the tallest is the Viking. Very tall atty, which worked on the same principle as the Magma. Side air, which came up under the coils. But the thing is huge.
As for the cloud chaser crowd, it's one reason why JD Tech stopped making the Manta, which is a great flavor atty. Their next project is supposed to be some sort of 'competition' cloud contest atty, which has zero appeal to me.
I've got a black AFC I'm not using if you want it. When I bought my all SS Nuppin a while back the SS AFC had a pretty bad scuff on it. I emailed PDib about it and he said all he had was black ones left so he sent me one.I scored and paid for 2 more brand new SS V2 Nuppin's in the wee hours, am just waiting for payment and shipping confirmation from the seller. Will take my total number of working Nuppin's to 8. Didn't really need anymore Nuppin' SS parts, already have lots of them not being used. So I paid retail for these just to get the 2 new V2 bases.
Now the hunt continues for one more black top cap and 2 more black AFC's and I should be set with all the Nuppin's I'll ever need for my Reos (with lots of spare parts). A few more Chalice III's are still on the list though, and maybe a couple of black RM8's.
The other latest/greatest atty's being hawked do not spark much if any interest in me. I've found my main gear... Reos with Nuppin' and Chalice atty's.
If you have an extra SS AFC, I'll be glad to trade you for it! I've never used it, it's just sitting in the little baggie in my vape toolbox.
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