O-rings and overtightening

[CatMommy]

Question for the RM2/vape Safety Masters

I'm trying the o-ring to line up the airhole.
I really had to tighten down the RM2 a lot to get it where I wanted.

Is there any possibility with an o ring in place the RM2 can be hand tightened so much that it will damage or short the VV.
Assuming the integrity of the o ring is intact, it should prevent this?

 

[JC Okie]

Cat, if you have to tighten it that much to get it to line up, then I'd try it without the o-ring. I hardly ever use the o-ring on any of mine, and they usually line up. The o-ring is to fill space so that it'll tighten earlier than it would without it....so maybe without it, it'll go where you need it to be. Worth a try.

Jan

EDIT: Better too loose than too tight....that's my thinking.

 

[CatMommy]

Cat, if you have to tighten it that much to get it to line up, then I'd try it without the o-ring. I hardly ever use the o-ring on any of mine, and they usually line up. The o-ring is to fill space so that it'll tighten earlier than it would without it....so maybe without it, it'll go where you need it to be. Worth a try.

Jan

EDIT: Better too loose than too tight....that's my thinking.

Hi J-

(I always love to see your pretty REOs, BTW)

I've used it without the oring in the past and I could never get the coil or hole to end up where I wanted it and recently have had a lot of leakage (I'm sure it's my over-squonking...but you can't teach an old dog new tricks).

I mean, while it's tight, I'm a small woman (4'11") so I'm hoping I couldn't have hand tightened it enough with the oring to cause damage because it is really vaping a lot better like this...and so far no leaks. Now that I know how the wick, coil and juice hole are oriented under the hood, I'm, squonking on an angle to hit the wick and coil. Less pooling in the cup.

 

[JC Okie]

Well, if it's working...then you didn't break it. I doubt you could break it, but you may find that it's really, really hard to get out, especially if the bottom is way down below the rim of the catch cup. Be careful then that you don't break the legs by using them for leverage. Maybe just change the wick/coil while it's still on the REO.

 

[CATastrophe]

CatMommy, I use orings and I hand-tighten all mine down pretty darn good - Hornets and RM2. I've had no issues unscrewing them or problems with them firing. This is how I know I'm not over-tightening an RM2:

Drop an oring in the well, screw down the atty, position it where I want it. Then to check it's not over-tightened, with the cap on the RM2, push down into the mod and see if I can tighten it just a hair more. If I can, I'm not over-tightening, then I back it off to the correct position I had it in. I can feel the very slight give of the oring doing it's job when I do this.

 

[oplholik]

The hole in the top cap of the RM2 is supposed to be "married" to the bottom piece so that it tightens up on the thread, and then the hole is aligned to the coil. If it's not, you might want to contact Rob.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to do.

 

[JC Okie]

oplholik, I think the hole in the cap is lining up with the wick fine; it's the hole lining up with the body of the REO that is sometimes problematic. Depending on how you hold your REO (hit with thumb, hit with pointer, switch facing you, switch facing away from you,) the air hold needs to be opposite your mouth. That's different for different people. I think that's what she's trying to adjust.

 

[bunker0617]

I crank mine down with the oring super tight and no issues. Super X video showed him cranking down his RM2 if it's good for him I think it's good for us lol

 

[CatMommy]

Well, if it's working...then you didn't break it.

LMAO! Yeah, I'm a genius, right.

That's my plan, Jan. Now that's it's there...leave it there. I'm just wondering about in the future. I'm going to have to take it off for cleaning and such.

I'm thinking if I just use the same RM2 and the same process, I should be ok. I hope.
If I short my VV because I'm being careless...I'll cry.

 

[CatMommy]

CatMommy, I use orings and I hand-tighten all mine down pretty darn good - Hornets and RM2. I've had no issues unscrewing them or problems with them firing. This is how I know I'm not over-tightening an RM2:

Drop an oring in the well, screw down the atty, position it where I want it. Then to check it's not over-tightened, with the cap on the RM2, push down into the mod and see if I can tighten it just a hair more. If I can, I'm not over-tightening, then I back it off to the correct position I had it in. I can feel the very slight give of the oring doing it's job when I do this.

Thanks CAT_

I gently tried that. It does seem to have the slightest bit of 'bounce' I guess you'd say to it. I'll keep that in mind!

 

[oplholik]

oplholik, I think the hole in the cap is lining up with the wick fine; it's the hole lining up with the body of the REO that is sometimes problematic. Depending on how you hold your REO (hit with thumb, hit with pointer, switch facing you, switch facing away from you,) the air hold needs to be opposite your mouth. That's different for different people. I think that's what she's trying to adjust.

Ahh, I misunderstood then. Disregard.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I have one older workhorse I have to screw down harder and with thicker o-ring to keep from leaking. I find it helpful to take cap off before removing base BUT NOT USING POSTS FOR LEVERAGE. It just helps to grasp the base better. Acrylic or vinly exam gloves (or smiliar thin gloves) helps to grasps, too.

It still leaks a tiny bit but I don't want to tighten any more for various reasons. One, it would put cap hole directly facing me when I vape. It's already at 4:30 but fine there but not beyond 5:00.


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[CatMommy]

oplholik, I think the hole in the cap is lining up with the wick fine; it's the hole lining up with the body of the REO that is sometimes problematic. Depending on how you hold your REO (hit with thumb, hit with pointer, switch facing you, switch facing away from you,) the air hold needs to be opposite your mouth. That's different for different people. I think that's what she's trying to adjust.

Yes, vaping style is the issue.
Without the oring, I was vaping sideways to line everything up...
It's perfect with the oring, I just kinda really cranked it down in there...but I haven't blown up yet.

 

[CatMommy]

I crank mine down with the oring super tight and no issues. Super X video showed him cranking down his RM2 if it's good for him I think it's good for us lol

I'm going to have to watch that vid again. I don't remember. Just for reference.
I'm sure some of the guys are cranking it down harder than I ever could.

 

[CatMommy]

It just helps to grasp the base better. Acrylic or vinly exam gloves (or smiliar thin gloves) helps to grasps, too.
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Thanks for that tip, Fiesty! You just saved me from cutting a sliver off of my rubber jar opener!

 

[JC Okie]

I doubt any of us girls could screw them down enough to do damage. I've been at a local B&M showing my various REOs off and several guys have taken attys off/put attys on my REO. I had to really watch because every single guy screwed every single atty on tighter than I ever did any of them.

Related story: My dad was an auto mechanic, so naturally he would work on our cars.... My sisters and I (three girls) always knew that if we ever had a flat, we were doomed. Even with standing on the tire iron and jumping on it, none of us could EVER unscrew the lug nuts if Daddy had put them on. I've seen that same pattern repeated throughout my life with every guy I know. So....back to topic: I don't think we're going to break these things. They were built by a guy....so they're probably able to withstand WAY more torque than we could ever apply.

 

[FeistyAlice]

I have one older workhorse I have to screw down harder and with thicker o-ring to keep from leaking. I find it helpful to take cap off before removing base BUT NOT USING POSTS FOR LEVERAGE. It just helps to grasp the base better. Acrylic or vinly exam gloves (or smiliar thin gloves) helps to grasps, too.

It still leaks a tiny bit but I don't want to tighten any more for various reasons. One, it would put cap hole directly facing me when I vape. It's already at 4:30 but fine there but not beyond 5:00.


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O-ring is the one used for 6 ml REO bottles. Another solution is to use another RM2 but all the rest are softer brass, this being my only Chrome, and I prefer to use harder Chrome on workhorse due to drops, bounces, slides, etc.

Need to get a couple more Chrome.:sly:

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[bushmaster]

Both of my RM2's line up pretty well without an o-ring and that's a good thing because I can't get an electrical contact with the o-rings in. The o-rings that came with my RM2's are the same as the bottle o-rings. Is that the correct o-ring?

 

[CatMommy]

I doubt any of us girls could screw them down enough to do damage. I've been at a local B&M showing my various REOs off and several guys have taken attys off/put attys on my REO. I had to really watch because every single guy screwed every single atty on tighter than I ever did any of them.
So....back to topic: I don't think we're going to break these things. They were built by a guy....so they're probably able to withstand WAY more torque than we could ever apply.

Thanks, I'm a little less paranoid now. But just in case...maybe it need to buy that Blue Metallic as a back-up...ya know...just in case...LOL

 

[CatMommy]

Both of my RM2's line up pretty well without an o-ring and that's a good thing because I can't get an electrical contact with the o-rings in. The o-rings that came with my RM2's are the same as the bottle o-rings. Is that the correct o-ring?

Really, maybe you're not cranking it down hard enough...(NO, NO, I do not want to be held responsible for telling you that).
People have been using 6ml bottle orings as replacements. Are they the ones originally sent? I could not answer that.