Obfuscation in FDA report and news stories

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DonDaBoomVape

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So many members have offered (in this and related forums) astute and very useful comments and analyses about the recent FDA report.

However, what is sticking in my craw are the obfuscations, logical falacies, and over-generalizations: in that report, in politicians' rhetoric, and in news stories. [NOTE: All emphases in the following quotes are mine.] They include:

1. "These products are marketed and sold to young people"

Does "young people" refer to children and teens or to younger adults (e.g., those in their 20's)? I believe that they are using the true (but innocuous) second meaning to smuggle in the entirely false (but alarming) first meaning. [I believe that is the FDA's intent. It unquestionably is the effect.]
  • Most people understandably would be concerned if their childern were being seduced by nicotine pushers in playgrounds.
  • In fact, however, e-cigs are marketed and sold only to adults (including, but certainly not limited to, younger adults).
  • BTW, I think that PV's are expecially helpful to older, long-time smokers (like me, age 63), who have a proven track record of being unable to shake the nicotine addiction.
2. "...available in different flavors, such as chocolate and mint, which may appeal to young people" [In their shoes, I would have used cola or cherry as examples.]

Again "young people," but my point here relates to the industry's rationale for the flavors and to that word may (also used elsewhere in the report).
  • It is we adults who are enjoying these myriad alternatives to the nasty taste of analogs. [Have you smoked an analog recently? It's a pretty efficient nicotine delivery system, but the taste: Yuck!]
  • Many adult activities may appeal to minors: alcohol, analog cigarettes, prescription medications, etc. The solution has been not to ban them from adults, but to apply strict controls on sale to minors.
  • And just because something may be misused (by some people) does not mean it will be misused (by all people) and, therefore, should be banned from appropriate use (by most people).
3. "...analyzed the ingredients in a small sample of cartridges from two leading brands of electronic cigarettes. In one sample..." combined with "All of these results indicate an overall lack of quality control" (Benjamin Westenberger of the FDA)
  • Two vendors are the entire industry? [For those who have read Atlas Shrugged: Do impurities in Oren Boyle's steel mean that Reardon Metal is unsafe?]
  • Is it appropriate to characterize "small sample" and "one sample" as "all of these results"?
  • Does this indicate an "overall" lack of quality control?
Please do not hesitate to correct any errors I may have made and, especially:
  • Polish these arguments. I ain't no logician, academic, or speech writer.
  • Add your observations, opinions, and commentary.
IM(not so Humble)O.
 
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Well said Don. Can't think of a thing to add.... The FDA is blowing smoke at vaping and hoping that their 'Seal of Disapproval' will kill the monster. Personally I believe the monster is only wounded. Please share you eloquent thought with anyone who will listen.. ie. Congress, House of Reps, FDA, The Truth. Blog about it.. .shout it from the rooftops!!!!
 

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"These products are marketed and sold to young people"
This part of their statement particularly got my panties in a wad.

My 17 year old sister (MUCH younger than me) has been smoking analogs for 2 years now. She doesn't seem to have any trouble getting them. YET I'd be willing to bet that she'd have a much more difficult time getting her hands on a PV and juice.
 

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Great writing Don!! But I would probably change the sex thing. You may want to use "driving a car" as an example of activity that would appeal to minors but is available only to adults. (I probably wanted to drive a car since I was 7). :)

Sex eliminated!;) Seriously, based on the sound advice you and others provided, I edited out that part. It didn't need a fourth example anyway. Thanks!
 

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  • Many adult activities may appeal to minors: alcohol, analog cigarettes, prescription medications, etc. The solution has been not to ban them from adults, but to apply strict controls on sale to minors.
You might want to consider adding these extra-flavor over the counter medications as well:

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This way you're comparing apples to apples (and cherries to cherries, etc.).
 

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Well said Don. Can't think of a thing to add.... The FDA is blowing smoke at vaping and hoping that their 'Seal of Disapproval' will kill the monster. Personally I believe the monster is only wounded.

Right, I just don't see over 100K vapers going back to analogs. If they try further efforts of restriction, it will ignite one massive underground market... :D
 
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