OFFICIAL: CyrstalClearVaping Information Thread..

[cmdryker]

hey Andrew whats the word on your Zmax? How is it working for ya? Also I seen in some other threads some questions about them. One was a main question I had and was looking for a answer for. Can you use both VV and VW on 18650. and same with 18350? or does one work with one battery type and one work with the other battery type? thanks for any info. Still probably a good chance I will be picking one up when you get them, but still a bit unsure.

All I've been using since i got it last week, yes vv and vw is with either battery setup, get almost 3 days from a single efest 2000 mah 18650, set on vw,,,, 2 days when set on vv setting (of course your vape pace may vary),I find the single battery setup more then satisfying, should be in Thursday or Friday of next week. cranked up wattage to 9 had a 3.0ohm single coil that i had been vaping in a tank at 4volts on vmax, WOW burnt the live .... out of it, So there's more power then anyone would ever need, if you still need more power, I would suggest professional help, a check-up from the neck-up first.

 

[Dirtay J]

Haha. Sounds awesome. I'm a little worried about getting a ST first gen model. They don't have the best track record. Only thing keeping me going is that if there is a issue I know ya'll will do everything in your power to make it right! Also I am hoping they learnt with the Vmax. With that said I have a feeling I will have my cc in my hand next week waiting for it to hit the site.

 

[Dirtay J]

Well I just ordered a Vmax and some batteries from ya'll. I decided I would wait on the Zmax and because of that I ordered the Vmax. Probably will eventually get one, Just want to see how well they work out after more people in the general public get them. Can't wait to get the Vmax! Also added a note to have the batteries be nipple top. Was thinking about doing the one nipple one flat, but i want to be able to swap them(front to back not out of set!). I think it would be a good idea to do that, especially with how I have been reading about more people having the bottom battery more discharged than the top.

 

[VapingTurtle]

... I have been reading about more people having the bottom battery more discharged than the top.

This is myth, as long as the two batteries are in the same condition.

 

[cmdryker]

This is myth, as long as the two batteries are in the same condition.

Exactly what I say, seems you'll always have blind leading the blind on the forums, thinking bout having a vape quiz must pass before you can order a VV device, just weed out the IQ's a few points above plant life.

 

[Dirtay J]

Just received my order for the 3ohm single coil double punched xl tank cartos. All 15 are only single punched. Normally I wouldn't make a big deal out of this but every time in the past that I tried to punch or slot a carto I ended up screwing it up. Thats why I ordered the double punched in the first place. I sent a message using the online form on your website too, but figured I would post it in here too. Please help, hopefully I have enough boge cartos to get thew the next couple days, otherwise i don't know what I am going to do.

 

[cmdryker]

Just received my order for the 3ohm single coil double punched xl tank cartos. All 15 are only single punched. Normally I wouldn't make a big deal out of this but every time in the past that I tried to punch or slot a carto I ended up screwing it up. Thats why I ordered the double punched in the first place. I sent a message using the online form on your website too, but figured I would post it in here too. Please help, hopefully I have enough boge cartos to get thew the next couple days, otherwise i don't know what I am going to do.

Just put 3 extra boxes of doubles in your order, go out today in priority envelope.

 

[Lava_Man]

This is myth, as long as the two batteries are in the same condition.

100% not a "myth"..... Either the nipple top batteries have more"juice" last longer etc Or the top battery is drawing more power ( has to be one or the other ) , every ( yes, every time) I've put my batteries on the charger the flat top glows orange while the nipple top glows red, and every time the flat top finishes about 10-15 mins before the nipple top.... Please don't give out mis-information just because it's not happening to you

And yes, I received both sets sealed, brand new at the same time from the same vendor and have had them in the same matching sets since opening


Edit: and I'm not saying it's a problem or anything, I'm still getting the better part of 1 1/2 days on battery life ....just, it is what it is I guess

 

[Lava_Man]

Any time frame on when you'll get the xl fusions in? Not a big deal, just might have to order a couple boxes of the standards if it's gonna be a week or 2 from now

 

[Dirtay J]

Just put 3 extra boxes of doubles in your order, go out today in priority envelope.

All I can say is WOW!! I have heard that you guys have great customer service, but never had a issue until today. But yeah saying you have great customer service is a understatement! Thank you!

Andrew called me shortly after posting this to confirm that the box that is in the order with my Vmax is double punched and that he put the extra boxes in that order and that he checked himself and they are the double punched carts!!

Andrew, sorry I missed the call. I was going to call back but right after that I got called into work, so now I am rushing around trying to get everything ready.

And one more time THANK YOU!!

EDIT: Also I will ship back the boxes of single punched carts on Monday or Tuesday. I plan to ship back all 3 but I may keep 1 if I run out of regular carts to try and get thru until these arrive. (BTW thank you for saying I only had to ship 2 back!! That's top notch customer support right there!) Just going to have to be extra careful. Every time I used single hole carts I ended up running them dry. But ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

 

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

I have to agree that it's not a myth, I'm into R/C cars and LiPo is where it's at these days. With multi-cell LiPo batts it's very important that all the cells have the same charge on them so LiPo chargers have a feature and an extra connector to "balance" the cells in the batt. Now the importance of balancing only applies to the high voltages and outputs these R/C batteries are working with, so don't concern yourself about the charge in stacked e-cig batts, it doesn't matter a whit, just using that as an example that LiPo cells can and do discharge differently even when running series or parallel.

 

[VapingTurtle]

100% not a "myth"..... Either the nipple top batteries have more"juice" last longer etc Or the top battery is drawing more power ( has to be one or the other ) , every ( yes, every time) I've put my batteries on the charger the flat top glows orange while the nipple top glows red, and every time the flat top finishes about 10-15 mins before the nipple top.... Please don't give out mis-information just because it's not happening to you
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Absolutely nothing to do with my subjective observation. And ya ought to leave the invalid analysis of your observation out of it, too. Maybe just state your observation and ask.

Have you measured the voltage of each battery before and after charging? If you had you would find that the batteries used together in series are the same voltage after use, because they very quickly balance in a series circuit. And that is also one of the main sources of danger in the use of stacked batteries. If the two batteries are considerably out of balance the more highly charged one will attempt to discharge very quickly to charge the lower charged cell, raising its temperature dangerously.

Did ya ever consider that it may be your charger? Does your charger have independent channels?

I have to agree that it's not a myth, ...

False.

... I'm into R/C cars and LiPo is where it's at these days. With multi-cell LiPo batts it's very important that all the cells have the same charge on them so LiPo chargers have a feature and an extra connector to "balance" the cells in the batt. ...

True. For the safety issue I mentioned above.

... Now the importance of balancing only applies to the high voltages and outputs these R/C batteries are working with, so don't concern yourself about the charge in stacked e-cig batts, it doesn't matter a whit, just using that as an example that LiPo cells can and do discharge differently even when running series or parallel.

False. It does matter a lot to use batteries with equal charges in series in PVs.




Gad... I hate the misinformation spread around in forums.

 

[Led Hendriani]

Hi Andrew
Just wondering if my shipment went out already!
Thanks!

 

[Lava_Man]

Absolutely nothing to do with my subjective observation. And ya ought to leave the invalid analysis of your observation out of it, too. Maybe just state your observation and ask.

Have you measured the voltage of each battery before and after charging? If you had you would find that the batteries used together in series are the same voltage after use, because they very quickly balance in a series circuit. And that is also one of the main sources of danger in the use of stacked batteries. If the two batteries are considerably out of balance the more highly charged one will attempt to discharge very quickly to charge the lower charged cell, raising its temperature dangerously.

Did ya ever consider that it may be your charger? Does your charger have independent channels?



False.

True. For the safety issue I mentioned above.

False. It does matter a lot to use batteries with equal charges in series in PVs.




Gad... I hate the misinformation spread around in forums.

I have no need or want to check anything about the batteries, as I stated its " not an issue" .. As far as my charger, I have a tenergy from provape that is brand new, aside from the obvious observation that I can take w/e battery is "orange" on my charger and switch it to the other terminal and lo and behold its still orange on the other side..

I'm not the only one that is experiencing this, have heard no "issues" as a result of this, seems to me that you may be instilling fear in some people's minds- when that is quite possibly the last thing you want to do ( with all the discern of e-cigs from unknowledgleable people )

I'm not here to start a pissing match, you have your opinion , I have mine....I know how MY batteries are reacting, I have no idea how you could ever begin to know what's going on with my batt's?

 

[hmlessalky]

Fact or not, with all the hub-bub about battery safety, I see no problem in rotating the position of batteries in series. Yes, it may not be necessary, but I just can't see both batteries experiencing the same conditions regardless of their position. So why not flip them? Is it going to do anything bad? Nope. Could it possibly have a positive effect on the cells? Maybe. Besides, in here and in some of the flashlight forums it seems most people tend to flip them out of habit if for no other reason.

 

[Lava_Man]

Fact or not, with all the hub-bub about battery safety, I see no problem in rotating the position of batteries in series. Yes, it may not be necessary, but I just can't see both batteries experiencing the same conditions regardless of their position. So why not flip them? Is it going to do anything bad? Nope. Could it possibly have a positive effect on the cells? Maybe. Besides, in here and in some of the flashlight forums it seems most people tend to flip them out of habit if for no other reason.

I think, in my experience atleast, that having the nipple top beneath the flat-top helps the connection ... Have slight issues with the flat top underneath the nipple top

 

[hmlessalky]

I had to use a magnet with the included flat tops (included) for the bottom battery, and even though I never had a magnet-related problem, I would personally have had nipple tops from the get go. Just my opinion though.

 

[Dirtay J]

Either way I can't wait to get my Vmax! And in the comments I asked for button top batteries.

 

[hubblecraft83]

Is there any CC coupons out? Thanks

 

[cmdryker]

Either way I can't wait to get my Vmax! And in the comments I asked for button top batteries.

I sent ya 4 nipples.