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Grass just got it's first cutting, sure feel good getting some sun all the way down to my toes
I managed to get my first mow in a couple of weeks ago... but I didn't have the snow/ice issues you've had either. I'll try another one this weekend although it'll be a touch on the cool side it's looking like
A question of sorts for @MoonLit_Water . More of a validation, or reassurance, kinda. You're a big Mac fan, and I'm with you there. I absolutely LOVE the iPad. The music/recording abilities are unsurpassed. But I've always been a Windows guy for desktop. Your new purchase got me to thinking about the same. So, I ask a confirmed Apple fan: what would I be missing by not going with a PC this time? I'm trying to think of what I use that I would lose by switching to Apple "full time". Right now, I enjoy both, Windows desktop and iPad. But.....both are getting a bit long in the tooth (I'm at 6.1.3 in IOS and Vista in Windows
) But I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason not to make a full switch. Is there anything you miss from not running Windows? I'm kinda feeling I already know the answer, but wanted to ask anyway. Thoughts?
) But I'm having a hard time coming up with a reason not to make a full switch. Is there anything you miss from not running Windows? I'm kinda feeling I already know the answer, but wanted to ask anyway. Thoughts?
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Whatever you get... Get a SSD drive for your primary boot drive. A good quality one will allow your system to boot and programs to load up to 10x faster. It's simply a major leap in performance and will be the standard soon.
Not trying to talk you into to anything but I'll talk about the improvements seen on the Windows side ... much of which probably in comparison also applies to Mac as well.
Vista was a sorry version of Windows, much like Windows ME was. It's only boon was they finally got the 64b portion working pretty well allowing for larger capacity storage drives and it could access more than 4Gb of system memory ( which only 3.3Gb was actually available for the OS and programs to use ). Windows XP did have a 64b version but it was buggy and there were always little glitches running certain programs.
Windows 7 was the first decent OS MS had made that also supported 64b programming. It gained an order of magnitude in performance over Vista when MS pulled all of the DRM crap they'd put into Vista out of it. There were also other gains in other areas as well.
Windows 8.x wasn't as bad as everyone complained about under the hood... but MS saddled it with a crippled Start Menu that only supported touch screens well.. and left behind their keyboard/mouse users. It's improvement over Win7 was in a bit of a performance gain brought by MS finally starting to clean up the old code and removing some redundant calls to the various system libraries.
Windows 10 brings another order of magnitude better than Win7 brought. MS really got most of the gains by continuing the code cleanup they started with Win8.x. They also address a lot of the security issues that'd been plaguing them making it even more secure.
If you do go with Windows again... make sure to setup before you connect it to the internet. That way you'll avoid having to setup a MS Account, something many complain about since it forces them to always log into the computer. Also, if you forget your password later ( if you set one up )... it makes recovery a little easier since you won't need access to another device with internet access to recover a lost password.
With what I said about Windows and how far its come, is likely the same or at least similar for a Mac. What you've currently got is pretty dated... whether you go for either... expect to see a lot of changes and once you get used to them, probably be better for it.
Whatever you get... Get a SSD drive for your primary boot drive. A good quality one will allow your system to boot and programs to load up to 10x faster. It's simply a major leap in performance and will be the standard soon.
Not trying to talk you into to anything but I'll talk about the improvements seen on the Windows side ... much of which probably in comparison also applies to Mac as well.
Vista was a sorry version of Windows, much like Windows ME was. It's only boon was they finally got the 64b portion working pretty well allowing for larger capacity storage drives and it could access more than 4Gb of system memory ( which only 3.3Gb was actually available for the OS and programs to use ). Windows XP did have a 64b version but it was buggy and there were always little glitches running certain programs.
Windows 7 was the first decent OS MS had made that also supported 64b programming. It gained an order of magnitude in performance over Vista when MS pulled all of the DRM crap they'd put into Vista out of it. There were also other gains in other areas as well.
Windows 8.x wasn't as bad as everyone complained about under the hood... but MS saddled it with a crippled Start Menu that only supported touch screens well.. and left behind their keyboard/mouse users. It's improvement over Win7 was in a bit of a performance gain brought by MS finally starting to clean up the old code and removing some redundant calls to the various system libraries.
Windows 10 brings another order of magnitude better than Win7 brought. MS really got most of the gains by continuing the code cleanup they started with Win8.x. They also address a lot of the security issues that'd been plaguing them making it even more secure.
If you do go with Windows again... make sure to setup before you connect it to the internet. That way you'll avoid having to setup a MS Account, something many complain about since it forces them to always log into the computer. Also, if you forget your password later ( if you set one up )... it makes recovery a little easier since you won't need access to another device with internet access to recover a lost password.
With what I said about Windows and how far its come, is likely the same or at least similar for a Mac. What you've currently got is pretty dated... whether you go for either... expect to see a lot of changes and once you get used to them, probably be better for it.
A question of sorts for @MoonLit_Water . More of a validation, or reassurance, kinda. You're a big Mac fan, and I'm with you there. I absolutely LOVE the iPad. The music/recording abilities are unsurpassed. But I've always been a Windows guy for desktop. Your new purchase got me to thinking about the same. So, I ask a confirmed Apple fan: what would I be missing by not going with a PC this time? I'm trying to think of what I use that I would lose by switching to Apple "full time". Right now, I enjoy both, Windows desktop and iPad. But.....both are getting a bit long in the tooth (I'm at 6.1.3 in IOS and Vista in Windows
Well it's been nearly 10 years since I had a windows machine for personal use. So as far as what Your missing I can't say for sure.
I know in the past (maybe somewhat distant, in computer years) there was a lot a Mac couldn't do, due to lack programs and apps. Thats not the case now, third party apps & software for Apple as best I can tell on par with windows.
I do use Windows at work, but thats mostly e-mail and a set of spreadsheets for inventories.
Garage Band does come with Mac OS. So Your good there.
And at lesast at the Palm Beach Gardens Apple store they don't have that hard sell/up sale thing going not only with Me but as I ease dropped on the other costumers dealing with staff. They weren't trying to sell the biggest and baddest they were asking what it would be used for and trying to suit the users need to the best machine for them. And it did seem to be honest.
So if all is the same in every Apple Store, go in tell what you want they explain your options what they think is best and compare the machines dollar wise.
Not with that being said, about not up sellling You on the machine they WILL make you aware of every accesorie
that graciously lines the walls of the store.
I'm pretty sure Windows is still on top for app/program selection but I do hear that Mac has improved greatly in this area now.
But I suspect we at least need to touch on that... He should go through his app/program list and ensure if they are compatible with which ever OS choice he makes. I know many Windows based programs dropped support for anything older than Win7 now... I've also seen several Mac programs only list the 10.xx series as being required to install so it'd make sense that many older ones may not work on the newer OS also.
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