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gormly

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If you had pre-filled carts, I'd buy them. The juice is very similar to the nHaler Drewbacco1 that I already use. Actually, I like the pre-fill juice a little better. Do you happen to know what juice they use for the pre-filled cart? I would love to be able to buy that juice.

I already asked for some samples :p
 

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For anyone new wondering about Go-Go:

I just want to say that Go-Go is hands down the best. Period. I had a small problem (admittedly, it was freaking me out) hat turned out to be a minor fix once we figured it out. Absolutely nothing on the part of Eric... yet he went so far above and beyond it is kind of jaw dropping to me.

The fastest shipping, the best prices and customer service beyond what you could expect.

Thanks Eric, you have a lifelong loyal customer my friend... you did before this as well, but this was just the icing on the cake.
 

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Going to start posting discount codes on twitter and facebook.

Twitter Name: gogo_usa
Follow gogo_usa on Twitter

Also Facebook. If you get a chance, become a fan at Facebook:
just look up go-gousa I need 25 "fans" to have a real username. :blink:

Or click:
Go-goUSA.com


UPDATE: Anyone who becomes a fan or "likes" a page is eligible to "win" a free Battery, it's not much but more such contests and giveaways will be coming once my volume gets up a bit to support it and I will then be able to advertise here on ECF and support them better as well.

Once I reach 25 "fans" or "likes" (not sure if they mean the same thing yet) I get a real name on Facebook and at that point I will randomly select someone for the free battery! If you also follow me on twitter you get a second name "in the hat". So two chances. This is for the first 25. :laugh:

The biggest reason for Facebook and twitter is to offer updates and discounts in other ways. While I was on my trip I had a hard time sometimes getting to the site and/or email and my phone is an easy way to send updates via twitter and Facebook. I will not be spamming! Only relevant things will be posted.

(note: this includes those who have already liked the page, no one is ever left out)


Just need one more 'like' on facebook!!!!! You are at 24!!! Come on... whose it gonna be?????
 

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It was my understanding that only those made at Kanger were true Go-Gos and that there were many china companies making fake or knock off Go-Gos. This was discussed over and over in the beginning when Go-Gos first hit the market, and drew @ nhaler and the guys @ Cigeasy were going to great lengths to make sure the kits they got were truly from Kanger and not from knock off companies. Apparently every time something new happens in this field, 10 other chinese companies just on and start trying to make the same thing, and they may call them Go-Gos even though they are not.

If Kanger is not making the Go-Gos they are knock offs, and really shouldn't be called Go-Gos. It seems what you are selling is not coming from Kanger and therefore must be knock offs. I mean I can see your point of it, they are telling you that they are Go-Gos .. but in reality, if you are not buying them from the Kanger company, or a reseller that gets them from Kanger, they can't be Go-Gos.

I have had several discussions with the suppliers and I have learned a few things.
1. Not all Go-gos batteries are manufactured at the same location (I knew that)
2. Go-gos cartos are manufactured in MANY locations
3. There are are 4 revisions of the Go-go.

Because of the revisions and the different manufacturers there can be issues. almost every battery issue I have had, or had sent back to me was fixed by pulling up a bit on the battery post. This also helped any non-firing cartos. Some batteries seem to have a .05mm lower post than others. This causes some cartos not to fire and some batteries to seem like they aren't working.

I received a set of 5 "not working" cartos from a customer and I tested each any every one in a couple of ways, I tested them on known working batteries, new batteries and a really "old" one I have. They worked on only the newest battery. Further, when I filed down the edge of the carto, it worked on all batteries, so there is a tolerance issue, the tolerances are so small that a manufacturer who is even +/- .02 might cause us issues.


While I LOVE my Go-go and my Go-go business, they didn't design it properly as far as threading goes and that is why we have intermittent issues.
 

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It was my understanding that only those made at Kanger were true Go-Gos and that there were many china companies making fake or knock off Go-Gos. This was discussed over and over in the beginning when Go-Gos first hit the market, and drew @ nhaler and the guys @ Cigeasy were going to great lengths to make sure the kits they got were truly from Kanger and not from knock off companies. Apparently every time something new happens in this field, 10 other chinese companies just on and start trying to make the same thing, and they may call them Go-Gos even though they are not.

If Kanger is not making the Go-Gos they are knock offs, and really shouldn't be called Go-Gos. It seems what you are selling is not coming from Kanger and therefore must be knock offs. I mean I can see your point of it, they are telling you that they are Go-Gos .. but in reality, if you are not buying them from the Kanger company, or a reseller that gets them from Kanger, they can't be Go-Gos.

As of a couple of months ago, Kanger had at least two separate factories in separate locations making their GO-GO batteries alone. From a very respected and knowledgeable source, one factory has newer equioment and makes more consistent items than the older factory with older tool and die works. I have no idea how many different Knager factories are turning out the other components but there are at least 2.

As for the other sources: There are several "trading companies" that buy from Kanger for resale. They charge a couple of bucks more per kit but if a supplier needed say 10 stainless kits right now, Kanger proper isn't going to do that. That's where the mentioned companies like Banktown trading come in. The problems with variances exist based on when the stock these trading companies got their stock.

Kanger is cranking out thousands a day in multiple facilities and there are at least 3 suplliers giving feedback and asking for improvements that one factory may incorporate but not the others. It's kind of a mixed up affair but simply the way of the world for Chinese manufacturing. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has been "bitten" by ordering what was sold as a GO-GO but it arrives as something totally different.

I'm sure one of the smaller companies will at some point try to make a true knock off of the GO-GO but so far, the items received as GO-GO that were not made by Kanger bear no resemblence to a true GO-GO. :)
 

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They are all Kanger, I should have been more clear. I meant "physical places" not manufacturers. I have purchased from several places because of the mysterious unavaibility I had for a while there. I am not buying knockoffs I can assure you that. I purchase most of my stuff from the same place as cigeasy.

The issue I think is not only are they made at different locations but also that some of these trading companies may misrepresent the version they have. (not surprising).
 

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They are all Kanger, I should have been more clear. I meant "physical places" not manufacturers. I have purchased from several places because of the mysterious unavaibility I had for a while there. I am not buying knockoffs I can assure you that. I purchase most of my stuff from the same place as cigeasy.

The issue I think is not only are they made at different locations but also that some of these trading companies may misrepresent the version they have. (not surprising).

Yes I was trying to be diplomatic as it were Eric but this was the reference I made in an earlier post about one supplier. Rather than compete with prices and service, it seems they find it easier to fill good, honest and trusting people with a load of crap. Doesn't say a lot in my book but I'm sure he doesn't care for me either.

Ah well, onward and upward! Your superior attention to the product and service will prevail in the end. ;)

EDIT: Lest there be any confusion, I am NOT referring to SSV2 who is a gentleman and a friend. He has also played a vital role in the development of the GO-GO since its release.
 
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Yes I was trying to be diplomatic as it were Eric but this was the reference I made in an earlier post about one supplier. Rather than compete with prices and service, it seems they find it easier to fill good, honest and trusting people with a load of crap. Doesn't say a lot in my book but I'm sure he doesn't care for me either.

Ah well, onward and upward! Your superior attention to the product and service will prevail in the end. ;)

Yes, I have been victim to that many, many times. One of the issues of being a supplier is just that, sometimes you order something in a small but still bulk quantity and what you get isn't anything like what you ordered and when you inquire about it, they just say you are wrong and ask for another order. :?:

Last week I ordered some mini-VGo's, it was a test of a vendor.
What I got in was a VGO box with a pretty 510 battery that didn't fit the foam cutout and the second battery was missing. Needless to say, I am not only not getting a refund (unless I ship it all back and pay a restock fee) but I had a verbal tug of war with the seller insisting he sent the right product. Now I am stuck with 10 useless "kits".

Then I ordered other models and got compete kits but again, not what I ordered.

This is not the first time either. This happens all the time.
That's why being a supplier is a risk.

Luckily I have experience in importing/exporting and know all the risks, so none of this is a shock to me. :p

However, that all being said, there is no need to make my customers pay for this trial and error.
How people sell the Go-go for so much more than mine is just beyond me. I guess market price, maybe they've invested more...yada yada...


I had one very nice and informative person here on ECF who has helped me a lot in this endeavor inform me this morning that someone else is selling a new LCD enabled Go-go.

Well, I am getting those to! I should have them in 7-10 days depending on availability. The LCD supposedly let's you know how much time you have on the battery and while I am personally not sure if that is really of any use (unless you just have one battery) I will always stock whatever is available. The LCD is a recessed three digit display about 3/4 inch in length at the base of the battery oriented vertically. Now I just have to figure out why it wasn't offered to me.

Note the new battery will sell for 3 dollars more than the colored batteries (18.99).
The kits will be $61.99

So I'll have a price and a product for everyone:

Black Batteries: 12.99
Stainless Batteries: 12.99
Black Rubberized Batteries: 15.99
Colored Batteries (Red, Blue, Purple, Pink): 15.99
LCD Batteries: 18.99

Black Kits: 49.99
Stainless Kits: 49.99
Black Rubberized Kits: 55.99
LCD Kits: 61.99
Colored Kits (Red, Blue, Purple, Pink): 63.99
(all "no box" kits are 2.00 less)

So if anyone out there does some digging and sees who is selling the "PRO Limited" Go-go kits (which I will just call the Go-go with LCD) you can see what the price difference will be. :thumbs:

Once I get the colors in higher runs, they will drop to 12.99 and the kits to 49.99, the LCD's will probably stay the same for a while as they a lot charge more for them.

I know it's not only about price, so that's why I try to do my best with service.
 
Just a thought, on the 510 stuff you received, or any sub-standard parts, you can always put it into a Bargain Bin area on the web page. With the right understanding of what the problem is, and the right price, I always like to buy cheap stuff. Even if it is just to take a part and use in mod experiments. Again, just a thought.
 
On the Go-Go battery with the lcd display, that is actually half of what you need for the "ultimate battery". My perfect battery would have internally, ~ a 6 volt source, then have an adjustable dc to dc converter to make it variable voltage. Then you add the lcd coupled with the adjustment. At that point, you would have the perfect battery for consistent vaping. you simply adjust the voltage to where your cart/juice level is currently hitting best. It also would allow you to avoid what some are seeing, where a fresh battery tastes like it is burning the juice (I have experienced this also, I just bear with it until the battery voltage drops off some) If you check out madvapes.com, the board for the variable voltage portion is very easy to add if you have the real-estate in the battery. (not saying that one should be used, but just that it would not be very hard for a vendor to integrate that solution). That is a product I would jump all over if available at a good price.
 

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That is a product I would jump all over if available at a good price.

And there's the rub... Once you start customizing products like that and add specialized electronics (ie more complicated for the average use) you have to put in a large investment. Keep in mind the vast majority of vapers just want to vape.. find something they like and just vape with no hassle. That's why the 510 is so popular. If I told my wife about variable voltages her eyes would glaze over and I'd get a lot of "uh-huh". She just doesn't care.

Many of these guys only improve when they are forced to, when knockoffs or bargain sellers drive their business down. It looks like they are getting there, next step, perhaps voltage regulation for the Go-go. (I will certainly suggest it)

Honestly though, this is why there is a mod aftermarket. I could easily make exactly what you just asked for, but it wouldn't look as nice as a machine milled and molded battery. (at least not until I find someone who can make me a stainless cap! :p)

Just a thought, on the 510 stuff you received, or any sub-standard parts, you can always put it into a Bargain Bin area on the web page. With the right understanding of what the problem is, and the right price, I always like to buy cheap stuff. Even if it is just to take a part and use in mod experiments. Again, just a thought.

GREAT idea.:thumbs:
 

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OK, so I just confirmed with two suppliers that there are problems with the LCD battery.
I will not be ordering them until the issues are fixed, order has been placed on hold.

I couldn't get a hold of anyone at Kanger (lol, a shock huh?) but two suppliers independent of each other both told me pretty much the same thing and believe me, they would sell me their grandmothers water bucket while she was on fire if they could so them saying there is an issue.. well. I am holding off.

Sorry if I got anyone's hopes up.
I'll update when I know more.
 
I understand your point on the Variable Voltage. I just can't see the point of the LCD without it. I mean what is the point to seeing the voltage, if I can't adjust it?
It is kind of cool, but serves no real purpose.
And yes, there is a VV mod in my future, and also a genesis with a go-go battery connection......
 

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It doesn't really show the voltage just a bar like a cell phone but it does count how many draws you take also. I would find it handy because I use a lot of different PV's in a day so I never know when one is fully charged. I would pay a couple of more dollars per battery for that feature but that is all. I would like to have a Go-go battery that was regulated between 4.2 and 3.7.
I had a VV Buzz but sold it to buy another Go-go kit. It was one of the first VV mods and was a hassle to change voltages but the new ones are much better. I like vaping as simple as possible and prefer a 1300 battery with at least a 3 ml carto that gives me consistant hits all day without messing with anything.
 

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I would buy one of the LCD batteries if you sold them individually. I wouldn't buy a kit just to get them though. Especially for 80.00 like one supplier is selling them for. I did see a picture of the blue batteries and they do look nice.

I agree and I wouldn't do that. If I sell a kit, I'll also sell the parts individually.
In fact I have taken parts out of kits to do this to satisfy the early demand for batteries. The box and manual aren't really worth much if anything.

The only exception would be maybe test items.
 
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