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Yeah there's a few posts madmach over in the GO-GO specific thread on earlier standard and lr. As I recall, at that time, both the regular and the so-called low res were running anywhere from 2.7 to 4.1 :confused: (only a couple that high).

But as Eric points out, the more recent batches have been fairly consistent so it appears they have wired the QC on the cartos down a little better than they did on previous versions. :)
 

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I have a question Eric. Why do you have a warning on your website that people with COPD should not vape? I have COPD and my health has improved dramatically. I no longer wheeze and cough or run out of air when I go up stairs. I don't even need to use my inhaler very often. The only people with COPD that would be on your site would be smokers and it is a million times better to vape than smoke so why the warning? It just might scare people away and prevent a smoker from quitting. I have never seen this type of warning on any other vaping website. You say they should contact their doctor before vaping. My doctor didn't have a clue about vaping but was very impressed with my dramatic improvement after a year of vaping. If you are going to have that warning then it should include that everyone should consult their doctor before vaping.
 

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I have a question Eric. Why do you have a warning on your website that people with COPD should not vape? I have COPD and my health has improved dramatically. I no longer wheeze and cough or run out of air when I go up stairs. I don't even need to use my inhaler very often. The only people with COPD that would be on your site would be smokers and it is a million times better to vape than smoke so why the warning? It just might scare people away and prevent a smoker from quitting. I have never seen this type of warning on any other vaping website. You say they should contact their doctor before vaping. My doctor didn't have a clue about vaping but was very impressed with my dramatic improvement after a year of vaping. If you are going to have that warning then it should include that everyone should consult their doctor before vaping.

You have to look at it from a liability standpoint, not the overall knowledge that WE know it's better than smoking, but rather, those with COPD are better off NOT inhaling anything at all.

(I am glad you are doing better! :laugh:)

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is one of the most common lung diseases. As you know, it makes it difficult to breathe. This being the case, ANY product you inhale can cause problems and will most certainly inhibit 100% natural breath. The warning isn't meant to be taken as a "better than cigarettes" warning, just as a warning in general that if you have COPD it can be an issue.

I can't say things like, "you are better off with this than a cigarette" as that would be irresponsible of me and also make me liable for someones personal decision to vape.

Vaping isn't making you better, it's just better than the alternative (in my no medical background based opinion)

I hope that explains my position? Just covering my bases.
 

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Major S. The Reg cart,s were hitting the mark at 2.9 to 3.2 ohm,s it was the lr that were told were 2.0 ohm,s and they wrer not the lowest was i think around 2.4 up past 3.0 ohm,s i posted what i had found i do not remember them all i would have to find it.but the ones that had a low reading had a nice worm hit to them.
 

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You have to look at it from a liability standpoint, not the overall knowledge that WE know it's better than smoking, but rather, those with COPD are better off NOT inhaling anything at all.

(I am glad you are doing better! :laugh:)

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is one of the most common lung diseases. As you know, it makes it difficult to breathe. This being the case, ANY product you inhale can cause problems and will most certainly inhibit 100% natural breath. The warning isn't meant to be taken as a "better than cigarettes" warning, just as a warning in general that if you have COPD it can be an issue.

I can't say things like, "you are better off with this than a cigarette" as that would be irresponsible of me and also make me liable for someones personal decision to vape.

Vaping isn't making you better, it's just better than the alternative (in my no medical background based opinion)

I hope that explains my position? Just covering my bases.

I think you would be better off not making a statement at all, like you said you aren't a doctor. We all would be better off not inhaling anything at all so I just don't get the point. Out of the hundreds of vaping sites I've been on this is the only time I have ever seen such a warning.
 

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I received my red go-go today and It is nice looking. Here is a pic. Red Go-go 003.jpg:2cool:

Edited bad info out before I confuse someone besides myself. lol
 
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good to see Connecticut vendors around....got to pick up some of the cheap 36 mg/ml non flavored juice from you....

can you freeze the stuff? or what would be the best way to store it i have heard conflicting reports?

anyways im from ct born and raised here so i gotta give you some grass roots business!
 

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I received my red go-go today and would like to bring to your attention the red carto is bigger in diameter than the black and stainless ones I have. 801 drip tips will not work on them. Do you know of any tips that will work? I can't find any in my collection that will fit them. It is nice looking though. Here is a pic.View attachment 46799:2cool:


I just tried one on a red and my drip tips fit ok, it's not super tight but doesn't fall out.
Not sure about your 801's but I will certainly take your word for it.
I wonder if some of them are wider? I will have to buy a caliper this weekend and start checking them.

Sorry about that :(

But yea, Red is awesome looking :p I am hoping the blue has the same tinting to it.

good to see Connecticut vendors around....got to pick up some of the cheap 36 mg/ml non flavored juice from you....

can you freeze the stuff? or what would be the best way to store it i have heard conflicting reports?

anyways im from ct born and raised here so i gotta give you some grass roots business!

Yea! CT. Aren't you just so glad they raised everyone's taxes :facepalm:

Freezing:

VG freezes at 18°C / 4.4 degrees Fahrenheit
PG freezes at -59°C / -74.2 degrees Fahrenheit
nicotine at -79°C. -110.2 degrees Fahrenheit

I'd think you'd have trouble freezing it and since the nic juice is mixed anyway, it will freeze at different stages, never good for anything, seperation may be an issue as well as potential condensation or breakdown. The best you can do is keep it tightly capped and cool in the dark fridge. That will be fine, just don't store it in a hot humid enviornment.

Note: you do not NEED to store it in a fridge but you can.

125ml isn't going to last a year unless you vape at a very low level.

I am vaping unflavored right now while jamie gets her flavors working, so far no good for flavors, all taste not so good, at least to me, and I won't sell anything I am not standing behind.
 
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You have to look at it from a liability standpoint, not the overall knowledge that WE know it's better than smoking, but rather, those with COPD are better off NOT inhaling anything at all.

(I am glad you are doing better! :laugh:)

Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is one of the most common lung diseases. As you know, it makes it difficult to breathe. This being the case, ANY product you inhale can cause problems and will most certainly inhibit 100% natural breath. The warning isn't meant to be taken as a "better than cigarettes" warning, just as a warning in general that if you have COPD it can be an issue.

I can't say things like, "you are better off with this than a cigarette" as that would be irresponsible of me and also make me liable for someones personal decision to vape.

Vaping isn't making you better, it's just better than the alternative (in my no medical background based opinion)

I hope that explains my position? Just covering my bases.

I understand completely. I've read that it's bad for the vaping industry to make any medical claims of any kind. It causes legal complications that can threaten the future of vaping. As an example, I know that I used e-Cigs to stop smoking, but you can't make any claims like that as a vendor. On that note, I really think it would be MORE wise to make no medical statements of any kind - pro or con. Who knows what kind of a legal wrangle it could lead into? We know the products on your site are for vaping, but why advertise that? The only warning I think MUST be made is on the misuse of nicotine. An example on the other end of the scale might be the use of syringes with blunt tips and a WARNING not to poke yourself in the eye with it. Otherwise, the products on your site are for adult use with appropriate precautions. Sometimes - the less said - the better - just two cents worth.
 

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I understand completely. I've read that it's bad for the vaping industry to make any medical claims of any kind. It causes legal complications that can threaten the future of vaping. As an example, I know that I used e-Cigs to stop smoking, but you can't make any claims like that as a vendor. On that note, I really think it would be MORE wise to make no medical statements of any kind - pro or con. Who knows what kind of a legal wrangle it could lead into? We know the products on your site are for vaping, but why advertise that? The only warning I think MUST be made is on the misuse of nicotine. An example on the other end of the scale might be the use of syringes with blunt tips and a WARNING not to poke yourself in the eye with it. Otherwise, the products on your site are for adult use with appropriate precautions. Sometimes - the less said - the better - just two cents worth.

I agree Tom10, it just completely turned me off when I read it. Here it is.

Warning:
Persons suffering from pre-existing lung disease or serious medical conditions resulting from smoking should not use an e-cigarette except with the advice of their doctor. If you have emphysema or pneumonia or bronchitis or suspect that you may, YOU MUST NOT USE an e-cigarette and you must stop any further inhalation of any materials not prescribed by your doctor.

So I must immediately quit vaping because I have emphysema and go back to using two inhalers a day and use the patch and nicotine gum my doctor prescribed. My doctor was completely amazed at my improvement. He now does recommend them for smokers but before I started vaping he didn't have a clue. If I would have read this warning I may have never started vaping. In my opinion it is a ridiculous statement and it offends me. This sounds like something the FDA would put out and probably will someday but it just doesn't make any sense to me!
 

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I have to say .. I agree with TxTumbleweed. The statement bothered me too, but like so many things on the internet, I just ignored it. I have COPD and my condition has greatly improved in the six months I've been vaping. Same with my doc, had never heard of vaping until I told her about it. She is all for me doing it if it keeps me from smoking. She says she can hear the improvement in my lungs and the tests show increased capacity in just six months.

If I wasn't so willful and didn't like being told not to do things, or was completely new to e-cigs, I might have stopped at that notice and continued to smoke cigarettes. It's quite off-putting. I was only able to ignore it because I've seen the improvement in my COPD since I quit smoking/started vaping. If vaping is what I need to not smoke, my doc is behind it 100%. Until there are more studies done, no one should be making any kind of statements beyond "Must be 18 to buy nicotine or vaping products"
 
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