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I guess since I'm using voltage mode, I'm wondering what knowing the watts tells me?

I'll give it a try...
When you are in 'volts' mode, to get the same *vape* you must also know the resistance of the coil, and then adjust the volts slightly up or down depending on if it's a 1.8, 2.1, etc coil - still with me?

Now, you've learned that you 'like' your vape on a given device (topper, tank, whatever) at 9.8-10.0 watts (by setting the volts and knowing the resistance of the coil), so you *could* switch to 'watts' mode, set it at 10 watts (say), and regardless of whether you have a 1.8 or a 2.1 coil, you'd automagically get that same *vape* you like on that same topper - does this make sense?
 

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I'll give it a try...
When you are in 'volts' mode, to get the same *vape* you must also know the resistance of the coil, and then adjust the volts slightly up or down depending on if it's a 1.8, 2.1, etc coil - still with me?

Now, you've learned that you 'like' your vape on a given device (topper, tank, whatever) at 9.8-10.0 watts (by setting the volts and knowing the resistance of the coil), so you *could* switch to 'watts' mode, set it at 10 watts (say), and regardless of whether you have a 1.8 or a 2.1 coil, you'd automagically get that same *vape* you like on that same topper - does this make sense?

If 10 watts is perfect on a 1.8 ohm coil then is it still putting out 10 watts on a 2.5 ohm coil? Or is it just showing 10 watts but has adjusted the voltage?
 

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If 10 watts is perfect on a 1.8 ohm coil then is it still putting out 10 watts on a 2.5 ohm coil? Or is it just showing 10 watts but has adjusted the voltage?

If the setting is still at 10, you're still getting 10 watts. The device will adjust the voltage automatically to make sure power is the same.
 

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I'll give it a try...
When you are in 'volts' mode, to get the same *vape* you must also know the resistance of the coil, and then adjust the volts slightly up or down depending on if it's a 1.8, 2.1, etc coil - still with me?

Now, you've learned that you 'like' your vape on a given device (topper, tank, whatever) at 9.8-10.0 watts (by setting the volts and knowing the resistance of the coil), so you *could* switch to 'watts' mode, set it at 10 watts (say), and regardless of whether you have a 1.8 or a 2.1 coil, you'd automagically get that same *vape* you like on that same topper - does this make sense?

Just curious...
Doesn't this all depend on how the P3 calculates wattage?
Does it use a true wattage control, to measure that the correct amount of power is being applied to the coil?
Or does it just do the Ohm's Law math for us, and just display the equivalent watts for volts?
I guess maybe that's actually a question for Provape...
Hey Vape360?
 

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I'll give it a try...
When you are in 'volts' mode, to get the same *vape* you must also know the resistance of the coil, and then adjust the volts slightly up or down depending on if it's a 1.8, 2.1, etc coil - still with me?

Now, you've learned that you 'like' your vape on a given device (topper, tank, whatever) at 9.8-10.0 watts (by setting the volts and knowing the resistance of the coil), so you *could* switch to 'watts' mode, set it at 10 watts (say), and regardless of whether you have a 1.8 or a 2.1 coil, you'd automagically get that same *vape* you like on that same topper - does this make sense?

I think I follow. So, in your opinion, would I be better served by setting my P3 to watts as opposed to volts?
 

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Just curious...
Doesn't this all depend on how the P3 calculates wattage?
Does it use a true wattage control, to measure that the correct amount of power is being applied to the coil?
Or does it just do the Ohm's Law math for us, and just display the equivalent watts for volts?
I guess maybe that's actually a question for Provape...
Hey Vape360?

If you are in wattage or power mode, it measures the impedance (resistance) of your atomizer every time it fires, and adjusts the voltage accordingly to give you the power you set it at.
 

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Your vape experience will be more consistent using watts.

I'm giving watts a go right now. I set watts to 9.8 on my P3 and the first thing I noticed is volts are reading at 4.4, which is what seems to work best for me on BVC coils with a Silo. So, when I put in a new coil, which will be the same ohm, then I should be all set at 9.8 watts or will I need to adjust the wattage for some reason?
 

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If 10 watts is perfect on a 1.8 ohm coil then is it still putting out 10 watts on a 2.5 ohm coil? Or is it just showing 10 watts but has adjusted the voltage?

If you are in 'watts' mode, the P3 will adjust the volts as needed (based on which coil you are using) so you will get a 10 watt vape all the time.

If you say, "I like to vape at 4v.", people will then need to know if that's on a 1.8, or 2.1 coil - right?

But, if you say, "I like to vape at 10 watts." - the only question might be what brand/type of topper, coil, juice - it takes ohms of the coil out of the equation.

Because (if measured correctly) vaping at "10 watts" is 10 watts regardless of the ohm of the coil you are using.
 

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I'm giving watts a go right now. I set watts to 9.8 on my P3 and the first thing I noticed is volts are reading at 4.4, which is what seems to work best for me on BVC coils with a Silo. So, when I put in a new coil, which will be the same ohm, then I should be all set at 9.8 watts or will I need to adjust the wattage for some reason?

You should be able to "set it and forget it". No adjustment needed.

ETA: One of the major perks of variable wattage is that it requires fewer adjustments. It's intended to be more user friendly.
 
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I think I follow. So, in your opinion, would I be better served by setting my P3 to watts as opposed to volts?

*I* am a watts kind of guy. It takes math (some) out of it. If I (say) had a P3 (dang you, ProVape), and used my 'Silo' topper, and had both 1.8 and 2.1 coils (which I do happen to have), I'd set my P3 at 10 watts and never change it. Because it doesn't matter which coil I put in, using the same juice (which I do), nothing has changed.

But, because I only have a 2.5 right now, if I do a coil swap from my 2.1ohm 3 week old BVC coil, to a new 1.8ohm BVC coil, I'll need to drop from the 4.5v I usually use, down to 4.0v or 4.1v to get the same vape. In other words, by using watts-mode, no math needed (or one less step anyhow) - make sense?
 

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I'm giving watts a go right now. I set watts to 9.8 on my P3 and the first thing I noticed is volts are reading at 4.4, which is what seems to work best for me on BVC coils with a Silo. So, when I put in a new coil, which will be the same ohm, then I should be all set at 9.8 watts or will I need to adjust the wattage for some reason?

No change needed, even if you use a higher or lower ohm BVC coil.
 

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*I* am a watts kind of guy. It takes math (some) out of it. If I (say) had a P3 (dang you, ProVape), and used my 'Silo' topper, and had both 1.8 and 2.1 coils (which I do happen to have), I'd set my P3 at 10 watts and never change it. Because it doesn't matter which coil I put in, using the same juice (which I do), nothing has changed.

But, because I only have a 2.5 right now, if I do a coil swap from my 2.1ohm 3 week old BVC coil, to a new 1.8ohm BVC coil, I'll need to drop from the 4.5v I usually use, down to 4.0v or 4.1v to get the same vape. In other words, by using watts-mode, no math needed (or one less step anyhow) - make sense?

It does make sense. Since (I'm sorry to rub it in) do have a P3 and I don't change topper or coils and I'm equally boring in terms of juice as I use the same juice every day, I'm going to set my P3 to 9.8 watts and forget it.

Thanks for the help and education! This pea-sized brain of mine may actually be getting it!
 

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I find depending on mood/time of day that I will still change the 'heat' of my vape slightly. I wonder if the 'boost' feature will accomplish that for me?

Again, my pea-sized brain can't explain much, but it can tell you this boost feature is magic. Pure magic, I'm telling you. I use boost level 2 and while I don't know what it's really doing, all I can say is the vape is SO MUCH better and SO MUCH more flavorful. And for some reason, my first coil on my P3 is acting like the Energizer Bunny. It just keeps going and going and going.

Provape has incorporated some magic in the P3. Yes, they have!
 

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Again, my pea-sized brain can't explain much, but it can tell you this boost feature is magic. Pure magic, I'm telling you. I use boost level 2 and while I don't know what it's really doing, all I can say is the vape is SO MUCH better and SO MUCH more flavorful. And for some reason, my first coil on my P3 is acting like the Energizer Bunny. It just keeps going and going and going.

Provape has incorporated some magic in the P3. Yes, they have!

The boost setting increases the power to the atomizer (online manual doesn't say by how much, I would guess 5 to 10 percent). Each setting adds 0.25 seconds to the duration. Boost level 2 gives increased power for the first half a second after you push the button, then power drops to your power setting.
 

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The boost setting increases the power to the atomizer (online manual doesn't say by how much, I would guess 5 to 10 percent). Each setting adds 0.25 seconds to the duration. Boost level 2 gives increased power for the first half a second after you push the button, then power drops to your power setting.

I kind of knew that, but still it's pure magic, because it makes the vape experience on a P3 simply fantastic!
 

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I kind of knew that, but still it's pure magic, because it makes the vape experience on a P3 simply fantastic!

LOL, it does. My P3 just came today and I'm really enjoying it. Rocking a silo with a bvc right now. I like just having a provari that tells me battery life at a glance and has vw. When I started vaping two years ago, I said I wasn't going to buy a provari until they came out with vw and an oled screen. There was talk about a new model at that time, and I was hopeful they would add these features. Of course, I bought a provari a couple months later and realized how good they were even without those features. Soon after that they released the 2.5 and I kind of gave up on expecting to see anything like that from provape. Imagine my delight getting back on the forum recently and learning that the P3 is about to be released. It takes a while for provape to implement newer technologies, but they certainly do it better.
 
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