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HBcorpse

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It's kind of my Forum Trademark. Yes it is!!

Well, I love it! Yes I do!

Hahahahahaha!!!!
And, if you don't mind, I'm going to adopt it into my professional life...I work face to face customer service at a retail computer store, and we are all about having great vibes...which your double affirmation creates! Yes it does!
 

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Well, I love it! Yes I do!

Hahahahahaha!!!!
And, if you don't mind, I'm going to adopt it into my professional life...I work face to face customer service at a retail computer store, and we are all about having great vibes...which your double affirmation creates! Yes it does!

It makes me happy to know you like it and will use it in your life outside the forum. Yes it does!
 

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When you're happy and you know it take a vape.

If you're happy and you know it take a vape.
If you're happy and you know it take a vape.
If you're happy and you know it and you really want to show it,
If you're happy and you know it take a vape.

And so I did!!:rickroll:
 

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I've got my cart loaded at the Provape site......is there any chance that they might have a discount coupon code before Christmas?....or should I pull the plug?:D

I'd say PULL.......THAT..........PLUG! If by some chance Provape offers any discounts before Christmas, just call them and ask them to adjust the price.
 

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Ok...
I just have to share something here...
So I normally build 28 gauge - 7 wrap - 1.45 ohm coils, on a 3/32" drill bit (aka 2.4mm)...and I was getting muted flavor and weaker vapor performance VS my KFL+V2
But after catching up on the last few pages, FREEDOGG mentioned something that caught my eye/mind, over in the KF4 thread...
"More airflow means the need for a bigger coil."
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to the SEX-SEX-SEX-SEXY new access feature, I wasn't afraid to crack my KF4 open to rebuild, and not waste the tank of juice.
So, I figured...what the heck? Why not try a bigger coil? I grabbed my 7/64" (aka 2.75mm) drill bit, and GUESSED at five wraps with 28 gauge...which turned out to be 1.45 ohms!!!!!
But that's not even the exciting part!!!
I reassembled, and took a puff...meh it was on par with my previous build.
Then...
I took another puff...and damn.
That was it.
Better vapor production? Check.
Flavor nuances? Check.
Warmer vape? Check.
That good old Kayfun feeling has started to creep back in!!!!
Now all I need is a precision metric drill bit set, and I'll be ready to step it up a little bit...PUN INTENDED!!!
WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!
Now THIS is what I paid almost $200 for!
Yes it is!
 

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Ok...
I just have to share something here...
So I normally build 28 gauge - 7 wrap - 1.45 ohm coils, on a 3/32" drill bit (aka 2.4mm)...and I was getting muted flavor and weaker vapor performance VS my KFL+V2
But after catching up on the last few pages, FREEDOGG mentioned something that caught my eye/mind, over in the KF4 thread...
"More airflow means the need for a bigger coil."
BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to the SEX-SEX-SEX-SEXY new access feature, I wasn't afraid to crack my KF4 open to rebuild, and not waste the tank of juice.
So, I figured...what the heck? Why not try a bigger coil? I grabbed my 7/64" (aka 2.75mm) drill bit, and GUESSED at five wraps with 28 gauge...which turned out to be 1.45 ohms!!!!!
But that's not even the exciting part!!!
I reassembled, and took a puff...meh it was on par with my previous build.
Then...
I took another puff...and damn.
That was it.
Better vapor production? Check.
Flavor nuances? Check.
Warmer vape? Check.
That good old Kayfun feeling has started to creep back in!!!!
Now all I need is a precision metric drill bit set, and I'll be ready to step it up a little bit...PUN INTENDED!!!
WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!
Now THIS is what I paid almost $200 for!
Yes it is!

I'm glad to see the excitement. Yes I am. But truth be told, I don't understand a single word or thing you did. No I don't! But it's A-OK if you're delirious with happiness!
 

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I'm glad to see the excitement. Yes I am. But truth be told, I don't understand a single word or thing you did. No I don't! But it's A-OK if you're delirious with happiness!

I understood everything. so you don't have to. He is happy. We are happy for him. He will now become obsessed with finding the most precisely machined metal rods available. Do not be concerned.
 

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Looks like they broke out the eggnog a little early.

Nope. Right on time. I'm having some Nog with my nog. It's good for my nog :p

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I'm glad to see the excitement. Yes I am. But truth be told, I don't understand a single word or thing you did. No I don't! But it's A-OK if you're delirious with happiness!

Basically, I made my same coil.
Because I wrapped the wire around a bigger drill bit, I didn't need to go around as many times, to use the same amount of wire. My P3 tells me I created the same resistance! Such a nice feature to get live resistance readings!!!! Love it! Yes I do!

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Picture this:
Two pieces of wire about 2 inches long.

Wire A gets wrapped around a small drill bit, and goes around 7 times.

Wire B gets wrapped around a bigger drill bit, and only goes around 5 times.

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Remember playing tether-ball? Remember the rope would wrap around the pole like 20 times, before it was too short to go around?
Now picture if that pole was a whole lot bigger...the rope wouldn't be able to wrap around it as much.
Same concept in building coils.

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Now, say you want to change the thickness of your wire...well that's easy too!
Think of it like a garden hose. The bigger around the hose is, the more water can pass through it.
If it's a very small, like a drinking straw, the less water can flow through it.
That's resistance, which is measured in OHMS.
Now, side by side, that hose can let more water through than the drinking straw yes?
That's current, which is measured in AMPS.
Here's the tricky part...
Imagine water coming out of the hose (no nozzle)...I'm sure you can literally imagine the water pressure against your skin...not a lot of pressure right? Doesn't hit your hand very hard.
Compare that to how hard the water from a squirt gun hits you...much harder. And the stream is smaller than what comes out of the hose yes?
The pressure you feel from the water, is representative of VOLTAGE! I know you know that's measured in VOLTS.

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Back to the wire thicknesses!
So the garden hose has less resistance (as described above), and would need more wraps around the pole, compared to the drinking straw...to equal the same resistance. If you wrapped a garden hose around a pole like 1,000 times, it would let out the same amount of water that a drinking straw sized hose would.
So if you wrap a thicker wire around your drill bit, you'd have to wrap more times than you would with a thinner wire, to equal the same resistance, AKA let the same amount of water through.
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I'm sorry that this was such a HUGE post...
My job, all day, is to literally create analogies for my customers to relate computers to.
Today it was:
A computer is like a library.
The shelves are the hard drive. The more shelves, the more books, or space for books.
The librarian is the processor, which organizes the books, and brings them to you when you request them.
The books are programs. When you open them to read, they take up more desk space.
A desk in the library is like the RAM. The bigger the desk, the more books you can lay out on it, and read at once.
 
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I've been vaping Upstomp's Christmas Morning on my P3 all day for some on topic content.
He initially offered it as seasonal but LJ's E Smokes picked it up for year round sales.
LJ's is selling it as Peppermint Latte. They're almost out but there's more on the way.
Search Results : L Js E-Smokes, Electronic Cigarettes

It's fan....ingtastic and goes with coffee better than anything I've vaped yet.
Stanley The Viking brought me some Thursday night :)
I won it last Friday from The Awesome Show on Quest at vapers.tv

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Please allow me to edit your post for rbrylawski to understand.

Basically, I made a larger coil of the same resistance. It made my vapering better.

I was concerned he might start playing tether ball with a hose in the library (isn't that in Clue?) and you would be blamed.
 
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rbrylawski

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I understood everything. so you don't have to. He is happy. We are happy for him. He will now become obsessed with finding the most precisely machined metal rods available. Do not be concerned.

Whew......what a relief. I won't be concerned now. No I won't!
 

rbrylawski

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Basically, I made my same coil.
Because I wrapped the wire around a bigger drill bit, I didn't need to go around as many times, to use the same amount of wire. My P3 tells me I created the same resistance! Such a nice feature to get live resistance readings!!!! Love it! Yes I do!

------------------------------

Picture this:
Two pieces of wire about 2 inches long.

Wire A gets wrapped around a small drill bit, and goes around 7 times.

Wire B gets wrapped around a bigger drill bit, and only goes around 5 times.

-------------------------------

Remember playing tether-ball? Remember the rope would wrap around the pole like 20 times, before it was too short to go around?
Now picture if that pole was a whole lot bigger...the rope wouldn't be able to wrap around it as much.
Same concept in building coils.

--------------------------------

Now, say you want to change the thickness of your wire...well that's easy too!
Think of it like a garden hose. The bigger around the hose is, the more water can pass through it.
If it's a very small, like a drinking straw, the less water can flow through it.
That's resistance, which is measured in OHMS.
Now, side by side, that hose can let more water through than the drinking straw yes?
That's current, which is measured in AMPS.
Here's the tricky part...
Imagine water coming out of the hose (no nozzle)...I'm sure you can literally imagine the water pressure against your skin...not a lot of pressure right? Doesn't hit your hand very hard.
Compare that to how hard the water from a squirt gun hits you...much harder. And the stream is smaller than what comes out of the hose yes?
The pressure you feel from the water, is representative of VOLTAGE! I know you know that's measured in VOLTS.

-----------------------------------

Back to the wire thicknesses!
So the garden hose has less resistance (as described above), and would need more wraps around the pole, compared to the drinking straw...to equal the same resistance. If you wrapped a garden hose around a pole like 1,000 times, it would let out the same amount of water that a drinking straw sized hose would.
So if you wrap a thicker wire around your drill bit, you'd have to wrap more times than you would with a thinner wire, to equal the same resistance, AKA let the same amount of water through.
----------------------------------

I'm sorry that this was such a HUGE post...
My job, all day, is to literally create analogies for my customers to relate computers to.
Today it was:
A computer is like a library.
The shelves are the hard drive. The more shelves, the more books, or space for books.
The librarian is the processor, which organizes the books, and brings them to you when you request them.
The books are programs. When you open them to read, they take up more desk space.
A desk in the library is like the RAM. The bigger the desk, the more books you can lay out on it, and read at once.

I do get it. And yes, your analogy's are perfect. I too use them in my line of work, which is headhunting and my clients and candidates seem to relate well to them. Yes.....they do.

But while I can truly see in my mind what you're doing, and maybe why this is exciting to you. I'm the kind of guy who thinks replacing the flusher-thingy in my toilet, without a major flood post replace-that-thingy is a major milestone in home-repair-by-RBryLawDudeMan-Ology. Yes I do. So, while I'm really happy for you my friend HB, I'll just sit in the balcony and watch from afar. Yes I Will!

You may now resume with giddy enthusiasm! Yes you can!
 
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