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I had read somewhere it's made in China. Bronze might know if he's recovered from the Hawks loss.
This is how I understand the story as well and the myth that a SM guy broke off is the one that got traction. I can't say for certain where the 91's are made.
So, yes the Russian is a clone of the Kayfun. The Russian (no 91%) is the clone of the 3.1 and the Russian 91% is the clone of the Kayfun Lite.
The rumor said an employee from SvoëMesto left the company unhappy and went straight to do a modified and supposedly better version of the Kayfuns.
SvoëMesto has said many times that the story is false and that never happened. We will never know the truth about that.
The Russians were made originally in Russia, instead of Germany, where the Kayfuns are manufactured. (They were designed in Russia, though.)
Kebo is the manufacturer for the Russians, and the quality they deliver is way better than many other Chinese companies, so they are "authentics" in a way.
Difference from a Russian to a Kayfun are:
- More open airflow
- Different finish options
- Version 2 has a different filling method that uses a ring which also controls the airflow
- Drip tip is like the older Kayfun tips, with a really small bore, and a straight cylinder with a rounded top
All in all, they've been trying to head in a different direction than the Kayfun, but they have the same base and they can be built and treated exactly the same.
The rumor said an employee from SvoëMesto left the company unhappy and went straight to do a modified and supposedly better version of the Kayfuns.
SvoëMesto has said many times that the story is false and that never happened. We will never know the truth about that.
The Russians were made originally in Russia, instead of Germany, where the Kayfuns are manufactured. (They were designed in Russia, though.)
Kebo is the manufacturer for the Russians, and the quality they deliver is way better than many other Chinese companies, so they are "authentics" in a way.
Difference from a Russian to a Kayfun are:
- More open airflow
- Different finish options
- Version 2 has a different filling method that uses a ring which also controls the airflow
- Drip tip is like the older Kayfun tips, with a really small bore, and a straight cylinder with a rounded top
All in all, they've been trying to head in a different direction than the Kayfun, but they have the same base and they can be built and treated exactly the same.
The Russians (which I never owned) have always received similar reviews as the Kayfuns in terms of quality and performance. I chose Svoemesto only because I was confident they were the original designer/manufacturer. That has never been disputed.
I would have likely just saved some $$ and gotten another KFL+, but Peter has an Authentic Russian 91 just sitting on the shelf, he never used and for what I'm paying for it, it's a deal I simply can't pass up. No I can't!
Yes, SvoëMesto's quality is second to none, and they're the original creators and manufacturers, period.
It's hard to justify the price of a Russian considering they are clones, but they do have a little bit more airflow and very good finish options (they had at some point Polished, Sand Blasted, Black, and Gold,) and the quality is indeed very good.
I don't know if they continue to be made in Russia, or if they're made in China, as Kebo is a Chinese company.
Anyways, they're now in a category of their own, but will never be a Kayfun or Kayfun killer, it's just another option and a good one despite their origins.
It's hard to justify the price of a Russian considering they are clones, but they do have a little bit more airflow and very good finish options (they had at some point Polished, Sand Blasted, Black, and Gold,) and the quality is indeed very good.
I don't know if they continue to be made in Russia, or if they're made in China, as Kebo is a Chinese company.
Anyways, they're now in a category of their own, but will never be a Kayfun or Kayfun killer, it's just another option and a good one despite their origins.
That part I've never understood. How can someone get away with calling something a Kayfun, if it's not made by the original Kayfun maker (SvoeMesto)? At least the Russian doesn't call itself a Kayfun.
And for good reason, they basically created THE experience for tanks and rebuildables, and there's been hardly any innovation made that completely revolutionizes the vaping game as the Kayfun did.
And for good reason, they basically created THE experience for tanks and rebuildables, and there's been hardly any innovation made that completely revolutionizes the vaping game as the Kayfun did.[/QUOTE
Russian 91% left, KFL+ right
Nearly every tank (and many drippers) that have been released in the last two years copied at least some of the Kayfun design.
I'm absolutely certain you'll enjoy your new atty, Sir Rod. Vape it in the best of health!
I'm sure I will!! Thanks LB!
I like the Russian 91 at least as much as the KFL+.
An authentic can be found for $59.00 now days if you look.
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vaping a Rüz
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