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HBcorpse

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Interesting to note that the P3 remembers the voltage set for different toppers with different impedances...I switched from my erlprinz at 1.8Ohms set to 4.4V, to my KFL+ at 1.2Ohms, and it switches automatically to the voltage I was vaping at yesterday at 3.6V..

I must have glossed over this feature somehow...pleasant way to wake up!!

I... ... ... ... ...feel like this is wrong.
But...I'm running my Beta on VER31...
Still...I feel like what you're describing would be a major selling point...
Can anyone else confirm or duplicate this?
If so, and it's an actual feature, I need to get my Beta updated toot-flippin' sweet!
 

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Interesting to note that the P3 remembers the voltage set for different toppers with different impedances...I switched from my erlprinz at 1.8Ohms set to 4.4V, to my KFL+ at 1.2Ohms, and it switches automatically to the voltage I was vaping at yesterday at 3.6V..

I must have glossed over this feature somehow...pleasant way to wake up!!

Are you sure it's not just in wattage mode? I can't help but notice that 4.4V@1.8ohms and 3.6v@1.2ohms are both 10.8 watts.
 

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Should be noted that yer still on v31...

The battery was in very good condition before leaving for a week and was at 60% charge level. It had a hi IQ, showing very low internal resistance which is a very good indication of battery health. Also, the P3 was still functioning with the low battery light flash every few seconds on the button, and surprisingly... the screen still lit up showing the normal info screen including the batt Empty message. So the mod wouldn't fire, and low voltage protection for actually using the device was working well. But the heartbeat during non-use continued to drain the battery even when the low voltage protection would not allow device use. This is where I feel improvement can be made to shut down the device when too low a voltage in non-use mode before critical discharge levels are reached. Maybe somewhere in the 2.8~2.9v range.

An interesting note though, it's surprising how low a voltage is needed to for the board and screen to function. In this case, 2.58v and the board, screen and menu system worked normally. I'm sure at some point the device would have turned off when the battery voltage level was under what was needed to keep the board alive, but I have no idea what that voltage level is. It does appear that it is well below safe voltage discharge level for a Li battery though.

It's also a bit surprising how much power is used in non-use mode. I really didn't consider 7 days an extended period of time to deplete over 60% of the battery charge when not being used, but I guess I will have to consider anything more than a couple of days an extended period of time now. But TBH, I would prefer that the P3 just managed the battery during non-use like it does during use.
 

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Seriously, the whole IQ thing is just getting dumb now. How is this helping someone who wants a P3 or who has an issue with one?

You are right...

IQ matters not... Nor do our jokes about it.

Pay no mind to it.

Buy a P3, Buy a P3, Buy a P3, Buy a P3...

All fixed, Better?
 

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Are you sure it's not just in wattage mode? I can't help but notice that 4.4V@1.8ohms and 3.6v@1.2ohms are both 10.8 watts.

Great Catch. You are absolutely correct here. My mistake, as I didn't realize I was in wattage mode! LOL. That is a feature that should be added though, as that would be cool. Remembering the last 2 ohms and the corresponding voltages would be an awesome selling point!
 

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Should be noted that yer still on v31...

That was noted in my first post regarding this issue, with a note saying I couldn't find any change log notes regarding changes in this behavior. But you're right, I'm still on ver31. It would be interesting to see if anyone with a current firmware revision could verify this has been changed.
 

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I... ... ... ... ...feel like this is wrong.
But...I'm running my Beta on VER31...
Still...I feel like what you're describing would be a major selling point...
Can anyone else confirm or duplicate this?
If so, and it's an actual feature, I need to get my Beta updated toot-flippin' sweet!

Sorry to get your hopes up HB...but as my feeble mind didn't realize - I was in wattage mode, and it happened to correspond to the exact voltage I was vaping at yesterday, and I accidentally switched over to wattage when familiarizing myself with the menu system. Hey - at least I seem to be consistent at the voltage I seem to like my vape..:)

Sure seems like it would be a great addition to the system. Shouldnt be too difficult to add into the system through an update
 

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The battery was in very good condition before leaving for a week and was at 60% charge level. It had a hi IQ, showing very low internal resistance which is a very good indication of battery health. Also, the P3 was still functioning with the low battery light flash every few seconds on the button, and surprisingly... the screen still lit up showing the normal info screen including the batt Empty message. So the mod wouldn't fire, and low voltage protection for actually using the device was working well. But the heartbeat during non-use continued to drain the battery even when the low voltage protection would not allow device use. This is where I feel improvement can be made to shut down the device when too low a voltage in non-use mode before critical discharge levels are reached. Maybe somewhere in the 2.8~2.9v range.

An interesting note though, it's surprising how low a voltage is needed to for the board and screen to function. In this case, 2.58v and the board, screen and menu system worked normally. I'm sure at some point the device would have turned off when the battery voltage level was under what was needed to keep the board alive, but I have no idea what that voltage level is. It does appear that it is well below safe voltage discharge level for a Li battery though.

It's also a bit surprising how much power is used in non-use mode. I really didn't consider 7 days an extended period of time to deplete over 60% of the battery charge when not being used, but I guess I will have to consider anything more than a couple of days an extended period of time now. But TBH, I would prefer that the P3 just managed the battery during non-use like it does during use.

I can see no evidence of battery drain on 2 different P3s sitting unused for 21 hours. The batteries currently measure 4.18 and 4.16 volts (99%), meaning one battery lost .01V, and the other stayed the same. I’m not going to pursue further documentation of something I can’t duplicate.

If you had a battery with 60% life remaining that went dead within a week, that’s certainly not what I would expect to see. You could verify your P3 by putting in another battery, and checking to see if you detect a voltage drop over time.

What happens after the low battery light starts flashing is another issue. I would agree that the P3 should be designed to shut down prior to depleting the battery to the point of possible damage.

Battery drain can also be caused by external factors like RFI. I had a Cloupor DNA 30 clone with a battery that would discharge by 50% every few days. I couldn't figure out why, until I just happened to be looking at it from across the room when the display lit up on it's own.

Hopefully you can find the source of your battery discharge problem, but it doesn't seem to be common to P3s in general.
 

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Does anyone know what allows the P3's 510 adjustment? Is it a spring? Are there any exploded diagrams of the P3 :)

I still refuse to plug in the key, but when I do I plan on looking closely about the information on the pin. Does the pin in fact adjust or is the connection adjusted by ring around it?
 

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An interesting note though, it's surprising how low a voltage is needed to for the board and screen to function. In this case, 2.58v and the board, screen and menu system worked normally. I'm sure at some point the device would have turned off when the battery voltage level was under what was needed to keep the board alive, but I have no idea what that voltage level is. It does appear that it is well below safe voltage discharge level for a Li battery though.

I posted this earlier and have yet to try the experiment again, but I got Flash of the Red Death and the display wouldn't show. I removed the battery and put it in a 2.5. It read 3.3v.
 

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I posted this earlier and have yet to try the experiment again, but I got Flash of the Red Death and the display wouldn't show. I removed the battery and put it in a 2.5. It read 3.3v.

Then the P3 is not running the battery dead. 3.3 is red light territory. I didn't think Provape would allow the battery to go completely dead. Good way of testing it.
 

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Mine just crapped out.

IQ 87

Empty Batt AW 18350 Reads 3.25 VDC on a Fluke.

Remove and replace cap, Get a half toke.

Put batt in a V2.5, CB reads 3.2, Get a half toke.

Batt in charger.

Then the P3 is not running the battery dead. 3.3 is red light territory. I didn't think Provape would allow the battery to go completely dead. Good way of testing it.

At your Service Sir!!!
 

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I still refuse to plug in the key, but when I do I plan on looking closely about the information on the pin. Does the pin in fact adjust or is the connection adjusted by ring around it?

All that's on that Key is the PDF manual that is online, and it just says adjustable 510 :\
But I did put an atty on that caused the pin to go down so much I had to wiggle it up again.

I'm just wondering if when I squash the 510 down, am I risking damaging anything other than the O ring!
 

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