It's a good question my fine egg laying friend. I currently use 28 gauge wire. I tried 26 gauge briefly and found it not to be as flavorful. However, I did not give it a fair shot. I vaped that set up for only a half day so I will revisit 26 gauge again. But I was using 30 gauge on my P2 because 28 gauge had too long of a heat-up time. With boost, that goes away so I was able to drop to 28 gauge easily. Same number of wraps, same diameter....hence, more coil area with the thicker wire. This is the true benefit of the P3's boost feature. People who already vape at higher power (say above 15 watts) wont notice this benefit as they are already pouring a lot of power into their coils.
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It's a good question my fine egg laying friend. I currently use 28 gauge wire. I tried 26 gauge briefly and found it not to be as flavorful. However, I did not give it a fair shot. I vaped that set up for only a half day so I will revisit 26 gauge again. But I was using 30 gauge on my P2 because 28 gauge had too long of a heat-up time. With boost, that goes away so I was able to drop to 28 gauge easily. Same number of wraps, same diameter....hence, more coil area with the thicker wire. This is the true benefit of the P3's boost feature. People who already vape at higher power (say above 15 watts) wont notice this benefit as they are already pouring a lot of power into their coils.
That is my favorite feature as well, but if I had never tried it, it wouldn't be something I'd miss. The point of my post was price, especially if the person comparing a v2.5 to a P3 doesn't build their own coils. I wanted to stress that using a v2.5 isn't "settling" for a lesser device. In the past some new vapers have sometimes been given the impression that they can't have an acceptable vape without a ProVari (or other high end device) and I'm hoping the infamous suggestion will not become, "Just get a P3."
At it's highest setting, Boost 5, the boost is 1.25 seconds. While an advanced user might tell the difference or someone vaping a P3 back-to-back with another device that has the same resistance coil and juice, for someone on a tight budget my opinion is the feature doesn't justify the cost unless the person is already disappointed with heat-up time. None of my other devices have a boost feature and I don't find their vape disappointing. I don't know about you, but my draws are longer than 1.25 seconds, so by the time I've inhaled the coil has heated up.
I'm not knocking the Boost feature or the P3, I'm vaping it right now, but I haven't had such an amazing experience that I feel, for example, my Reos are noticeably inferior. For someone advancing from an eGo, I think a v2.5 would blow them away as much as a P3.
Overall, this comes down to a belief I have posted many times. Potential vapers are often skeptical that vaping will get them off of cigarettes. Most of them have tried to quit by other methods and been unsuccessful. Each time an attempt to quit fails, it makes the next attempt even harder. People often try vaping as a last resort and already feel defeated on some level. Quitting smoking is very stressful and it only adds to the stress when new vapers are given the idea that if they don't spend more than their budget or learn immediately how to build coils they will be wasting their time and money.
i can haz soapbox?
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That is my favorite feature as well, but if I had never tried it, it wouldn't be something I'd miss. The point of my post was price, especially if the person comparing a v2.5 to a P3 doesn't build their own coils. I wanted to stress that using a v2.5 isn't "settling" for a lesser device. In the past some new vapers have sometimes been given the impression that they can't have an acceptable vape without a ProVari (or other high end device) and I'm hoping the infamous suggestion will not become, "Just get a P3."
At it's highest setting, Boost 5, the boost is 1.25 seconds. While an advanced user might tell the difference or someone vaping a P3 back-to-back with another device that has the same resistance coil and juice, for someone on a tight budget my opinion is the feature doesn't justify the cost unless the person is already disappointed with heat-up time. None of my other devices have a boost feature and I don't find their vape disappointing. I don't know about you, but my draws are longer than 1.25 seconds, so by the time I've inhaled the coil has heated up.
I'm not knocking the Boost feature or the P3, I'm vaping it right now, but I haven't had such an amazing experience that I feel, for example, my Reos are noticeably inferior. For someone advancing from an eGo, I think a v2.5 would blow them away as much as a P3.
Overall, this comes down to a belief I have posted many times. Potential vapers are often skeptical that vaping will get them off of cigarettes. Most of them have tried to quit by other methods and been unsuccessful. Each time an attempt to quit fails, it makes the next attempt even harder. People often try vaping as a last resort and already feel defeated on some level. Quitting smoking is very stressful and it only adds to the stress when new vapers are given the idea that if they don't spend more than their budget or learn immediately how to build coils they will be wasting their time and money.
i can haz soapbox?
I couldn't agree more with your last sentiment. New vapers should be introduced to alternatives but it should not be at the expense of scaring them off with shiny new objects they either cannot afford or the experience it takes to use them properly. As for me, I hardly use any of my other PVs since I took ownership of this P3. Funny, you feel about the P3 the same as I feel about the new K4. Nice, but......
I wouldn't say that's quite how I feel. I was curious about the P3 and don't regret buying it. As far as the K4, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole of 40 gauge Kanthal.
ETA: For me, I hardly use anything now that I've discovered the Rüzgar, but the only people who like it as much as I do are on their fb page.
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This concludes my 7 days of P3 inactivity testing.
This test was begun and conducted to determine what inactivity would do to the battery over a period of time.
(I could not bear more than 7 days without my P3)
Below are my results. Yours may differ.
Thanks, Jim
PS This is what I did after my final reading
Battery removed and read with a Fluke 3.53VDC
Battery reinserted into P3
IQ 82
3 poofs P3 reads 01% battery
2.5 more poofs and P3 reads empty with fire button flashing red
Battery removed and read with a Fluke 3.50VDC
Battery reinserted
2 more poofs
Battery read with a Fluke 3.48VDC
Battery inserted into a Provi Ti V2.5
Provi Ti V2.5 reads battery at 3.4 dropping to 3.3 during reading
1.5 poofs on Provi Ti V2.5
Provi Ti fire button flashing
Battery read with a Fluke 3.48VDC
Battery placed in charger
P3 loaded with a fresh AW battery
My Life Goes On!!!
********** P3 DISCHARGE TEST **********
12/12/2014 8:41 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 76
Battery 01%
12/11/2014 7:55 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
12/10/2014 8:34 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 77
Battery 01%
12/09/2014 7:22 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 81
Battery 01%
12/08/2014 8:24 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 81
Battery 01%
12/07/2014 8:08 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
12/06/2014 11:59.59 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
This test was begun and conducted to determine what inactivity would do to the battery over a period of time.
(I could not bear more than 7 days without my P3)
Below are my results. Yours may differ.
Thanks, Jim
PS This is what I did after my final reading
Battery removed and read with a Fluke 3.53VDC
Battery reinserted into P3
IQ 82
3 poofs P3 reads 01% battery
2.5 more poofs and P3 reads empty with fire button flashing red
Battery removed and read with a Fluke 3.50VDC
Battery reinserted
2 more poofs
Battery read with a Fluke 3.48VDC
Battery inserted into a Provi Ti V2.5
Provi Ti V2.5 reads battery at 3.4 dropping to 3.3 during reading
1.5 poofs on Provi Ti V2.5
Provi Ti fire button flashing
Battery read with a Fluke 3.48VDC
Battery placed in charger
P3 loaded with a fresh AW battery
My Life Goes On!!!
********** P3 DISCHARGE TEST **********
12/12/2014 8:41 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 76
Battery 01%
12/11/2014 7:55 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
12/10/2014 8:34 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 77
Battery 01%
12/09/2014 7:22 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 81
Battery 01%
12/08/2014 8:24 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 81
Battery 01%
12/07/2014 8:08 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
12/06/2014 11:59.59 PM
P3 Beta v36
Efest 18500 Purchased in 09/2014
IQ 80
Battery 01%
Thanks for doing this. I've watched it with interest and this has continued to confirm our P3's are engineered in true Provape fashion! Your willingness to not have the pleasure of using your P3 for an entire week for the benefit of your friends on the P3 forum is amazing.
Ocelot: I think Astro deserves an Appointment for his valor and unselfish service to the community. Don't you?
Wow...um...does someone need some coffee? Or a shot of whiskey? Or a nice cold milk shake? Perhaps a back rub?
I'm glad you can share your feelings about the picture I posted...but I'm sorry you thought it was just for you...
There really was no reason to express that particular feeling, as it didn't add anything to the conversation but negativity...even if you were only joking...some of us (myself included) may not understand your individual sense of humor, as well as having a hard time reading humor or sarcasm through a text-based format.
I wasn't asking if YOU thought it was funny, or if anyone else did either...I think it is funny, and being that it's definitely topic related, it was appropriate to post...even if my brain forgot that I'd posted it before...
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Hey No Prob...
When ProVape says built to Mil Standards they aren't joking.
My Reward though, is the pleasure of having a Provi!!!
Jim
Yeah, I just needed a shot from my P3...
Sorry HB
I was in a bad mood, and wish I could take it back.
Again, I am sorry.
Hey don't sweat it...we've all been there!
Don't worry about me! I was approaching the situation with my guns on the floor, hands in the air, with nothing but an explanation!
Glad you're feeling better! Truly!
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I too use the BVC 1.8 to 2.1ohm coils at 9.6 watts, with a boost of 2.
I have no idea when/how it happened, but somehow my boost got turned off (I don't even change toppers)??? And it wasn't tasting quite right, changed a coil and still not as wonderful as remembered - then a boost up above was talking about boost so I thought to look, sure enough, no boost? Weird - anyhow, turned it back on and am loving it.
I have no idea when/how it happened, but somehow my boost got turned off (I don't even change toppers)??? And it wasn't tasting quite right, changed a coil and still not as wonderful as remembered - then a boost up above was talking about boost so I thought to look, sure enough, no boost? Weird - anyhow, turned it back on and am loving it.
I found this discussion about the components of BVCs interesting. The link goes to the post where the BVC discussion starts:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-has-chromed-brass-chimney.html#post14608744
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...s-has-chromed-brass-chimney.html#post14608744
Thank you, Oce. I just read the entire thread and am not the happiest bird on the block. Quick question: is there something special about the kayfun 4 that enables it to work with the P3? Is that same something part of the design of the Kayfun Lite plus? If not, do I need some sort of adapter? I'd much rather order everything I need in one go! Merci beaucoups!
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The KFL+ works great on a ProVari v2.5 and P3. On a v2.5 you need to use a "beauty ring" if you want a streamlined appearance, but that's for esthetics, not performance. A KFL+ is flush on a P3. The K4 has different bases that are interchangeable: a regular 510; one that will fit the P3 (although the 510 also works); and one for a Svoemesto mod (I not sure if it is out yet). If you are considering a Kayfun 4, I strongly urge you to watch some video reviews. Todd's is good. Personally, it has too many small parts for me. I would lose them and at the price, I would be sad.
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Please forgive double post. My little pea brain is a bit foggy, this morning! 
Just placed an order for a Kayfun lite Plus Second Batch (way too long a name, IMHO) on Vaperev, having remembered that Bronze recommended it to me. Kayfun4 is out of stock, anyway
. Now, off to find a good source for organic Japanese cotton. Christmas is coming a bit early!
Just placed an order for a Kayfun lite Plus Second Batch (way too long a name, IMHO) on Vaperev, having remembered that Bronze recommended it to me. Kayfun4 is out of stock, anyway
. Now, off to find a good source for organic Japanese cotton. Christmas is coming a bit early!
Please forgive double post. My little pea brain is a bit foggy, this morning!
Just placed an order for a Kayfun lite Plus Second Batch (way too long a name, IMHO) on Vaperev, having remembered that Bronze recommended it to me. Kayfun4 is out of stock, anyway
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I got my Svoe KFL+ from Vaperev. It's likely a first batch (I don't know the difference), but I've been quite happy with it.
Please forgive double post. My little pea brain is a bit foggy, this morning!
Just placed an order for a Kayfun lite Plus Second Batch (way too long a name, IMHO) on Vaperev, having remembered that Bronze recommended it to me. Kayfun4 is out of stock, anyway
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The K4 is a bit more complicated than the K+. Not a particularly good atty to start building with especially when factoring in the price. You'll enjoy your Plus. And if you need help, there are plenty of us around to walk you through it. While there are some decent KFL clones, you will not go wrong getting an authentic.
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