Official ProVari Radius Thread - Part 2

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Nice! I love those.

I was a Rolex guy for years but maintenance was killing me. I have had an Omega Seamaster for 15 years and that is basically the only watch I wear. I love it.
The very first Rolex Diving watch, was Panerai Marina. Yep! Panerai was Rolex for years. IN fact, the case is from the Rolex Pocket Watch, with lugs added, along with the Crown Guard, (Patent held by Panerai. It's actual function is to be ultra water tight at depth.

Panerai was the official producer of Naval instruments for the Italian Navy, and contracted Rolex to produce the first Divers for them in 1936-37. Most Rolex Collectors assume that the first true Rolex Diver was the Submariner, in ???1963??? But the Rolex/Panerai predated it by decades.

First one I ever say was in the Movie, Eraser, with Arnold S.. Shown in the very beginning. All I remember was thinking, Whoa--WHAT !S THAT!!! :cool: You will see them often in any movie with Arnold, Sly, STatem, Or the Rock. A true high quality, Men's everyday tool watch. Darned Near Bullet proof. ;)
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I've been wearing the same Rolex GMT Master since 1990. A local watchmaker was Rolex certified and kept it clean, lubed & regulated. I wanted a Rolex after looking at one with the back off. Absolutely amazing machine work. Two tone with a Jubilee band, been a daily driver since I bought it. Thats 26 years of enjoyment so far. I forgot what it cost shortly after I started wearing it.

Same with me. I never cared for the Rolex for the status, or bling, But fell in love with them the first time I saw one with the back removed. What a work of art! So far, I have owned a No Date Sub, Two Date Just, and a Date, along with a very rare Early Thunderbird.
All sold or stolen. One by a Watch Maker who decided to retire, and take a lot of customers watches with him for his retirement fund! Grrrr!!! It was of course my Fav. The No Date Sub.:(

My fav. now is a Pam Submersible that I wear often.:)

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I wish I didn't like nice watches. But I truly do. I'll post pics of some of my favorite pieces:

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Note, the last pic is of my Limited Edition Grand Seiko. Grand Seiko is their ultra high end line hand made in the Jura Mountains of Japan and is more than competitive with Rolex. They weren't available in the US until 2010. The movement is a work of art:

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I have one of the :Grand Seiko's in the small case. It's a sub. My wife adopted it, as it was too small for me. I received it from the Famous Knife Maker Bob Loveless. Now if you want to see some true Art in Steel, Google Bob, or RW Loveless. The most World Celebrated Custom Knife Maker who ever lived. RIP Bob.
And a very dear friend and mentor.

Like the looks of the Ebel's, but their darned straps ( metal bracelets) pull the hair on my arm something terrible. LOL!!!

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I wish I didn't like nice watches. But I truly do. I'll post pics of some of my favorite pieces:

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Note, the last pic is of my Limited Edition Grand Seiko. Grand Seiko is their ultra high end line hand made in the Jura Mountains of Japan and is more than competitive with Rolex. They weren't available in the US until 2010. The movement is a work of art:

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That UTS Is looking very "PAM" Like! (Yes it Is)! ;)
 

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Wow! Very nice collection. You overworked and poor headhunter guys.:p

I have a Tag, a cool Burberry (both on super clearance) and a Timex too.

Don't get me started about Prada, Gucci and Boss shoes though. ;)

Fixed that fer 'ya........I just have spent a disproportionate amount of my earnings on watches. Charlie sees me looking at a watch online and rolls his eyes. It's what gets me new vape gear. I show him a nice multi-$thousand watch and then show him a Radius or Kabuki and boom, vape gear ordered!


XXXXXXXXXXXXXcellent, gneezies.

What say you, Sir Brow? Am I one of the Kool Kids or WHAT.
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Wow, two blasts from the past!

I have one of the :Grand Seiko's in the small case. It's a sub. My wife adopted it, as it was too small for me. I received it from the Famous Knife Maker Bob Loveless. Now if you want to see some true Art in Steel, Google Bob, or RW Loveless. The most World Celebrated Custom Knife Maker who ever lived. RIP Bob.
And a very dear friend and mentor.

Like the looks of the Ebel's, but their darned straps ( metal bracelets) pull the hair on my arm something terrible. LOL!!!

Knife

Actually, the Ebel metal bracelet is hands down the nicest metal bracelet of any watch I've ever worn. The finishing on it is second to none. I call the look, Liquid Metal. I don't have very hairy wrists though, so that's certainly not an issue for me. I bought the Ebel because it has the in-house caliber 137 movement, which at full retail was over $7,000, but Movado who owns Ebel, sold off the movement and the watchmakers who hand make the movement to Ulysee Nardin and it now lives on in some of their watches costing well over $10K. But Movado blew them out for rediculous prices and I paid a paltry $1500 for it with full manufacture warranty for 3 years. It was simply too good of a deal to pass up.

The movement in the Ebel, is also quite beautiful!

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Okay, I'll take your advice and look in to it. I'm actually curious to see how much they are going to get me for[emoji383][emoji12]


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I have mixed emotions about the servicing thing. Mine was due so I sent it to Rolex New York and had everything taken care of.

Later I was browsing some watch forums and found out that when Rolex replaced the dial it made a significant hit to the watch's value. Seems that collectors want the original face and even a genuine face replaced by Rolex themselves is a black mark in their view.

No, I don't understand why either. I didn't buy the thing as an investment so it's not a huge thing other than I never like to knowingly decrease the value of anything I own.
 

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I have mixed emotions about the servicing thing. Mine was due so I sent it to Rolex New York and had everything taken care of.

Later I was browsing some watch forums and found out that when Rolex replaced the dial it made a significant hit to the watch's value. Seems that collectors want the original face and even a genuine face replaced by Rolex themselves is a black mark in their view.

No, I don't understand why either. I didn't buy the thing as an investment so it's not a huge thing other than I never like to knowingly decrease the value of anything I own.

Fear not. In most worlds, if a crystal should be replaced on a Rolex, having it done by Rolex will not adversely effect it's value. There are some models that are highly prized by collectors, which are no longer produced that can happen with. But for the most part, they are rare pieces.
 
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Fear not. In most worlds, if a crystal should be replaced on a Rolex, having it done by Rolex will not adversely effect it's value. There are some models that are highly prized by collectors, which are no longer produced that can happen with. But for the most part, they are rare pieces.

But along with the crystal, they replaced the dial face. The dial is what I was referring to.
 
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Fear not. In most worlds, if a crystal should be replaced on a Rolex, having it done by Rolex will not adversely effect it's value. There are some models that are highly prized by collectors, which are no longer produced that can happen with. But for the most part, they are rare pieces.
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More than likely, the dial was replaced due to the older tritium being replaced with Swiss SuperLuminova now days. Not only were the Trit. Dials losing their glow at night after years of use, they are still radio active.

However, replacing the dial on an older, desirable model, with take a hit in value. Just as replacing even factory original body parts on a 20 year old Ferrari. Same, same.

Sadly, the rollie Sub. No-Date that the WatchMaker swiped, was a very desirable piece.
Grrrrrr !!!

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My Submariner was a terrible watch. It was beautiful but would start losing time about a year after servicing. After 2-3 years it would lose 5-10 min A DAY. I think it was just a lemon. I got rid of it for the Omega and believe it or not, I get it serviced at Sears. Been going there for 10+ years and they are great. About $200 every 5 years. Rolex was $500-800 every 2.

Expensive hobby though and I am glad I am not very interested. A buddy has more than a few TWCs and a gold Patek and I cant imagine what they are insured for. Some of them are new luxury car expensive now.
I worked at an Authorized Rolex Dealer, as the In "Store Rolex Rep". In almost each and ever case, when a Rollie would loose time, I would ask the customer one question. Do you take the watch off at night. In almost every case, the answer was "Yes".

A Rolex is made to be worn. It will wear into your movements. Take it off at night, and it will screw up it's time keeping!

The reason your Rolex cost more to service would be in my guess, is that you sent it to an Authorized Rolex Service Center or watch Maker for Service. Yes?

Yet you sent your Omega to Sears! :eek: No wonder it cost less!!! Omegas are notoriously harder to keep going that Rollies. You're very lucky that the Newbie watchmaker didn't' get hold of it!

So why didn't you use the same logic and take the Rolex to Gulp---Sears?:confused:

I wouldn't trust sears to change my tires. Much less work on a top quality watch. Not with their rep. for switching out parts on cars, such as shocks. No way in hades I would trust them with a Premium anything! Tripple :eek::eek::eek:

Were you aware that when a rolex Authorized Watch Maker works on your watch, and re-times it, along with water proof test, that the watch is now in full Rolex Warranty again. Regardless of age? Just saying! Had you done this, any timing issues would have been taken care of Free Gradus!;)

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In a past life, I was the person who proofread Hitler's speeches.
Which literally made me a grammar Nazi.

My dear HBManOfTheCorpseDude, since I be knowing you, I know this was meant in jest, but sadly, I can not like the post. Being Jewish, and gay, makes me less than tolerant of Hitler references.
 
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