Official ProVari Radius Thread - Part 2
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I charge my Radii on alternate days via the USB port and the Anker PSU and cable - I only took the base off once out of curiosity. Just plug in the Anker and a couple of hours later, they're fully charged. No need to ever take the baseplate off unless the battery deteriorates when you would change it for a new one.
Typically my Radius will last me a full day. If it doesn't/going out on a low battery/etc. I can swap the battery out in less then a minute. It's a single battery device. If you're vaping at 40 watts, and want it to last a full day. Maybe vape less, or buy one of those huge heavy device's that will hold 3 18650's.
The situation where I'd like (but don't expect) the Radius to last a full day, I'm in a semi-public space, with management that doesn't want me vaping in there. So in this situation, I'm vaping periodically and discretely, not all that much.
In lieu of the battery lasting all day, which I don't expect it to, I'd like to be able to easily change the battery, like nearly every single other replaceable battery 18650 device on the market (at least that I've come across).
I timed myself, and it took me 15.94 seconds to change the battery on my classic Ti, you're not going to come close to that with the Radius. This was with fumbling the cap while removing it, and missing my first shot at the threads closing it up (it's been a while), and it didn't take a five finger death grip to pull it off. If I were to drop the cap in public, I wouldn't be too worried about it getting lost, unlike the two small fiddly screws of the Radius.
So it just took me 59.41 seconds to change the battery on the Radius. It took about 17-19 seconds just to get the screws out. This was starting with the tank removed, so I wouldn't have to worry about firing off the device with the tank upside down while removing the battery, which regularly happens even while mindfully applying the five finger death grip that is necessary.
This is not progress, this is not good design.
They have a battery cap that works on their other devices, and is the same size as the Radius body, would it have been so hard to incorporate it into the Radius?
It's great other's have been able to justify their purchase and make it work for them. Every one of these workarounds involves some form of accommodating a poor design. At the price point of the Radius, I'm not looking for a kludge.
It's one thing to be known as a maker of conservative devices, it's another thing to produce a product whose niche is for people that want a ~$250 secondary or part time device.
In lieu of the battery lasting all day, which I don't expect it to, I'd like to be able to easily change the battery, like nearly every single other replaceable battery 18650 device on the market (at least that I've come across).
I timed myself, and it took me 15.94 seconds to change the battery on my classic Ti, you're not going to come close to that with the Radius. This was with fumbling the cap while removing it, and missing my first shot at the threads closing it up (it's been a while), and it didn't take a five finger death grip to pull it off. If I were to drop the cap in public, I wouldn't be too worried about it getting lost, unlike the two small fiddly screws of the Radius.
So it just took me 59.41 seconds to change the battery on the Radius. It took about 17-19 seconds just to get the screws out. This was starting with the tank removed, so I wouldn't have to worry about firing off the device with the tank upside down while removing the battery, which regularly happens even while mindfully applying the five finger death grip that is necessary.
This is not progress, this is not good design.
They have a battery cap that works on their other devices, and is the same size as the Radius body, would it have been so hard to incorporate it into the Radius?
It's great other's have been able to justify their purchase and make it work for them. Every one of these workarounds involves some form of accommodating a poor design. At the price point of the Radius, I'm not looking for a kludge.
It's one thing to be known as a maker of conservative devices, it's another thing to produce a product whose niche is for people that want a ~$250 secondary or part time device.
Did you not watch any of the reviews, every single one of which states and shows how awkward the battery door is?
It was designed as a built in battery mod with the ability to change it when the battery comes to the end of its life.
I just added a 60 watt to my collection, it makes a great out & about mod, very light and durable. I wouldn't have it as my sole device as I get through 2 18650's in a day but for a lot of folks that mtl it would make a perfect single device.
It's just not the mod for you. I hope you enjoy the vaporshark.
No, I didn’t. Partly because I hate watching video reviews, and partly because I trusted the provape brand. This is akin to discovering a car you've rented has a square steering wheel that only turns left, and being questioned if you read the reviews beforehand for something that no other car on the market is like, or would ever be expected to be like.
And how exactly is this good design? What unmet need in the marketplace is this fulfilling?
It's a "feature" that exactly nobody was clamoring for, ever.
Look, I know I'm not going to "win" here, and I'm not trying to. This is more a matter of giving voice to a matter that someone (and I'm not the only one, I realize now) who wants to be their customer would like to see addressed. I understand this device is obviously not for me, hence having an RMA# in hand and a new device arriving tomorrow.
Hopefully v2 addresses their horrible design choices.
My favorite two devices (I have about 30) are my Radius and my SX Mini M Class. Both have PITA battery doors. I use USB to charge them both.
I think battery access is a personal thing, not a quality thing. My favorite battery door on a mod by far is on the Kanger KBox. Cheap mod and many hate it, but the battery held access door is great.
If you aren't happy, just return it. Vaporflasks are killer devices too!
It is not about who "wins". You have every right to voice your criticisms on something you paid good money for and that you are not satisfied with. I think some of us are just saying perhaps you could have done more research on the Radius that would have made you aware of the design choices ProVape chose.
For my method of vaping, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this. This my opinion but to address the design I believe its a solid and well thought out design. The battery cover isnt going to pop off or wear out easily. As to it being a feature no one wanted ever...I guess I am the one odd person that likes it.
I like the battery cover plate. Its a very secure and solid design. I have had so many devices that have cheap, poorly made battery doors that have broken or don't stay secure. Since the Radius was designed to be charged via USB I was thrilled to see a solid and secure design like this that gave me the option to replace the battery. But with any device that needs recharging, having to wait for it to charge is part of it. I have 18650 mods, DNA 40 and 200 devices that utilize usb charging and some have lipos. Some charge faster than others but maybe I got lucky but all three Radius I own charge pretty fast and in some cases faster than some of the other single 18650 mods I have. I am betting its due to ProVape's USB charging efficiency. I easily get a full day of vaping with the way I vape.
I have heard complaints on the Radius due to being only 40W, the battery cover, the screen, etc. These are all things I like however. I knew these things before I bought one so I knew what I was getting into. I like the Radius so much I own three of them. It works amazingly for my style of vaping. Provape caters to a target group which I guess I am a part of. I actually like that. Many reviews that pinted out things as cons I found as pros. Again for the way I vape and what I want in a device.
The Radius clearly doesnt work for you. And that is ok. You do not have to like it. However there quite a few who love this little device like myself. So to sit there and say how no one likes certain aspects of the design is not being fair because some of us do. Maybe you will like your replacement and if you dont I bet you will have no trouble selling it for something else.
I hope you find a device that you like and works for you. I feel this community should always try and help others out and share our opinions even if they differ. I am just sorry the Radius didnt work out for you. Plus it sounds like the first one you got might be defective especially if its getting hot when charging. Good luck!
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I appreciate your thoughtful reply, but it's a considerable portion of it is constructed by a straw man playing three card monty.
There is a difference between you liking it, and the fact that no one has ever sat around saying they want a device with one of the most difficult to utilize battery doors on the market.
What you like about, it being secure and solid, has nothing to do with the difficulty or ease of operation. A well designed door would be secure, solid, and easy to operate. The battery cap provari utilizes on their tube mods could easily be adapted to the radius, it is very secure, solid, and finely machined. The spring pressure simply does not need to be what it is, confounding the issue.
And again, you find yourself with three of them, speaking to my point that the market for a Radius is as a secondary or part time device, which must just be too rich for my blood.
There is a difference between you liking it, and the fact that no one has ever sat around saying they want a device with one of the most difficult to utilize battery doors on the market.
What you like about, it being secure and solid, has nothing to do with the difficulty or ease of operation. A well designed door would be secure, solid, and easy to operate. The battery cap provari utilizes on their tube mods could easily be adapted to the radius, it is very secure, solid, and finely machined. The spring pressure simply does not need to be what it is, confounding the issue.
And again, you find yourself with three of them, speaking to my point that the market for a Radius is as a secondary or part time device, which must just be too rich for my blood.
I bought my first Radius the day it came out. I was a bit put off by the battery removal, but once I figured it out it was no problem. I use the usb port to charge now. No problem.
I love the feel and look of the Radius. A perfect fit for my hand. The up and down buttons make an adjustment instantly and simply. I always travel with a couple of mods, so if one drops charge I have a back up. I have chargers at the office, in the car and throughout the house.
My first one was black and I was planning on the next being cabernet or midnight blue, but the purple came along and I bought one the first day it came out.
Then came the vapapocalypse and Provari released the 60 version. Being a prepper I immediately ordered one in cabernet.
The trio of Radius stand ready with various 2.5 mini (3), 2.5 (1), P3 (2), Classic (1) and Procylon (1) brothers to face the future.
I normally vape low, but I have the power to blow clouds and the tanks to support them.
Did I say I love my Radius?
Man that midnight blue version sure looks sweet...
I love the feel and look of the Radius. A perfect fit for my hand. The up and down buttons make an adjustment instantly and simply. I always travel with a couple of mods, so if one drops charge I have a back up. I have chargers at the office, in the car and throughout the house.
My first one was black and I was planning on the next being cabernet or midnight blue, but the purple came along and I bought one the first day it came out.
Then came the vapapocalypse and Provari released the 60 version. Being a prepper I immediately ordered one in cabernet.
The trio of Radius stand ready with various 2.5 mini (3), 2.5 (1), P3 (2), Classic (1) and Procylon (1) brothers to face the future.
I normally vape low, but I have the power to blow clouds and the tanks to support them.
Did I say I love my Radius?
Man that midnight blue version sure looks sweet...
Yeah the 40W has been plenty good for where I vape but might have to add a 60W Radius just to have. That Cabernet color has grown on me.
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