The question here is, does the FDA consider e-cigs a tobacco product? I can't see how, as there isn't any tobacco. Does nicotine = tobacco?
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The question here is, does the FDA consider e-cigs a tobacco product? I can't see how, as there isn't any tobacco. Does nicotine = tobacco?
Yes they do....they wanted and tried so hard to get it passed as a NRT so they could regulate it as any other pharmaceutical. Well they lost that one in Federal Court, but were granted the right to regulate them as a tobacco product.
This maybe helpful to those questions
Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-fda-regulate-e-cig-tobacco.html#post3084083
With that said, IT will be taxed
... since ecigs are used as a alternative way of smoking to get a nicotine delivery.
Lets be honest here,....yes it is safer as we know it "but", it is still nicotine and we use it everyday for the same reasons right???
Honestly......IMO I think the gov would rather tax it and make money on it than see the FDA ban it all together.
so they will let them regulate it as a tobacco product and tax it just like the other.........
Regulation of E-Cigarettes and Other Tobacco Products
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-fda-regulate-e-cig-tobacco.html#post3084083
With that said, IT will be taxed
... since ecigs are used as a alternative way of smoking to get a nicotine delivery. Lets be honest here,....yes it is safer as we know it "but", it is still nicotine and we use it everyday for the same reasons right???
Honestly......IMO I think the gov would rather tax it and make money on it than see the FDA ban it all together.
so they will let them regulate it as a tobacco product and tax it just like the other.........
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All this keeps pointing in the direction of a second american revolution/civil war.... The government for the people by the people is long dead. It's for the rich who can get into office and their lobbyists who fund them.....
So, are e-cigs "grandfathered"? What if companies figured out how to make synthetic nicotine, not derived from a tobacco plant?
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I've often thought that, but revolutions usually happen when the poor are starving, not just because there's a huge difference between poor and rich. We have enough things like TVs and cars, even the poor, that it's not worth risking your life for. Things have to get a lot more desperate for that. They may get that desperate, but if the rich are on the ball, they'll spread the wealth just enough to keep most of the poor comfy and sedated.
Agreed - But if they take my nicotine away from me (or make it ridiculously unaffordable), I won't be comfy and I'll have to be sedated!
OK, I signed up and added my 2 cents. I noticed one lady that agreed with the bill was actually pro-ecigs, I think she meant to click the other button
[ doh! ] Now I have to use more letters to get this post to work ...
No worries rave, SI will be having a lot of 20% + off sales so folks like us can stock up
well, I haven't heard of grandfathered ecigs and besides, they always figure away around. Now it's "New Tobacco Products"
There is synthetic nicotine too but I don't think that will change things.....if it were, FDA will then go back to the court to see this product as a Drug once again
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Sorry to disagree with you "SandySu" - but IMHO - The Rich - the ones that actually have any money are never going to spreed their "Wealth" - that's why they are wealthy . . . And never would they even consider it, that is if it didn't benefit them one way or another - well, not unless they absolutely have too and were TAXED . . .
AND BTW, from what I know - which is not much at all - it is that "BAD" and that "Desperate" . . . for a lot of people . . . And it is getting worse - NOT Better . . .
Besides what happening in the Rest of the World . . . All you have to do is look in your own back yard . . . because "ALL Over The United States" their are more and more Children that are hungry and going malnourished right here (not just in Africa/Asia); the working poor are being forgotten; No permanent jobs for the middle class; Older workers are being dismissed from their JOBS and have been out of work for YEARS; Evictions/Foreclosure; People losing their saving/pensions; Single Mother's w/children being thrown out the streets - homeless; The rise in Homelessness, NO Jobs for recent college graduates; Single older Children having no other recourse - but to move back in with their Parents, because they still have a HOME . . . and so much more . . . However, do I really need to go on . . .
And do you not think that if things do not start getting any better and we fall back into a Recession (especially given the problems happening to other governments economies) . . . That we will not also have another "revolution" here . . . Like the ones that are happening in the rest of the World - Greece, England, Egypt, Lebanon, and the rest of the Middle East . . . Well, then I'm really not seeing what you are seeing . . .
Really this is just my personal opinion - no reflection on anyone else thoughts . . .
Just something else to think about and consider . . .
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well, I haven't heard of grandfathered ecigs and besides, they always figure away around. Now it's "New Tobacco Products"
There is synthetic nicotine too but I don't think that will change things.....if it were, FDA will then go back to the court to see this product as a Drug once again
They might change the rules, but as they stand now, it's got to be made from tobacco. Synthetic nic would solve that problem, wouldn't it?
I agree that things are getting worse, and you may be right that they are reaching a critical mass. Remember the rebellion over the Vietnam War? Things got to that point when it became a life-or-death matter for a large number of people. It may happen again. What I was saying is, if the rich are smart, they'd make sure the poor aren't too poor. Of course, if greed overrules good sense, then there could be a revolution. As you say, it's happening elsewhere, and if you look at history, it's happened many times.
YEP - Your absolutely correct . . . And Thank You for clearing that up - I didn't think you of all people would have really said it the way I took it - and even better that you let me know that you actully meant it as a "Tounge-in-Cheek" comment . . . See now, if you used a few "emoticons" I would have know that from the start . . . you know just a few
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