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[WebMistress89]

okay awsome!

actually nope... since there is no international tracking with first class that will be the last thing it says before it shows up to your door about 6-14 days from the day it shipped

don't want you to think something is wrong when you see no movement

 

[marlou]

Re: Bounty Hunter in SI cartos

I use Bounty Hunter in my SI cartos all the time and have never had a problem. This is not a thick juice. I always fill my cartos by the condum method and keep the filler wet by topping off as soon as the taste diminishes.

My best guess as to what caused the burning problem using Bounty Hunter was that not enough liquid was used for the initial fill. Just to try something different, a couple of times I dripped liquid into a carto through the threaded end. It's tedious and requires a steady hand, so I prefer the condum method. But when I filled that way I got 30 drops into the carto.

I use a few juices that are 60pg/40vg in my cartos and don't have any problem, but the juice is not thick in consistency. I imagine it has been thinned during the mixing process.

edited to add: the 60pg/40vg juices are not from nitelitevapor. Their juices are 65pg/35vg

 

[gadgetx23]

Re: Bounty Hunter in SI cartos

I use Bounty Hunter in my SI cartos all the time and have never had a problem. This is not a thick juice. I always fill my cartos by the condum method and keep the filler wet by topping off as soon as the taste diminishes.

My best guess as to what caused the burning problem using Bounty Hunter was that not enough liquid was used for the initial fill. Just to try something different, a couple of times I dripped liquid into a carto through the threaded end. It's tedious and requires a steady hand, so I prefer the condum method. But when I filled that way I got 30 drops into the carto.

I use a few juices that are 60pg/40vg in my cartos and don't have any problem, but the juice is not thick in consistency. I imagine it has been thinned during the mixing process.

edited to add: the 60pg/40vg juices are not from nitelitevapor. Their juices are 65pg/35vg

Thank you for detailing your experience marlou! I will try the condom fill when I get home tonight!

 

[marlou]

Thank you for detailing your experience marlou! I will try the condom fill when I get home tonight!

If you haven't yet watched vids showing how to use the condum method you can find them on youtube. I fill the condum a little over halfway and slowly push the threaded end of the carto down. Then I remove the carto and (being frugal) I squeeze the couple of drops left in the condum into the top of the carto. I then wipe off the carto and clean all the liquid off the threads. I usually have to add some more juice by dripping into the top of the carto, along the sides. Then I gently blow through the threaded end to make sure no juice in the center tube.

After filling I like to stand the carto on a paper towel for a few minutes to make sure I haven't over-filled. Better to have the juice leak out onto a towel than into your battery.

 

[SandySu]

Anytime anyone tried to convince me to do people I just shrugged them off saying "Naw - They don't have enough fur or feathers." They would laugh and drop it at that point. I also did not accept commission work because my best paintings were portrayals of things that I was passionate about - not someone's pekinese. Unless it was a wild critter, I wouldn't paint it; and I did well enough financially by painting what I wanted to feel free to turn down offers.

Okay - you asked for it! Your pastels are lovely! They reflect your love of horses perfectly. Your proportion is good - That's what most people mess up on when depicting animals. My favorite is the third one in from the left (top row), and I believe it's because the color is more saturated than the others. Since I've never worked with pastels, I have no idea how difficult it is to get good, strong coloration.

There are two things that strike me as a bit off. Number one is that I can tell that you have no interest in spending much time doing backgrounds. I can relate - lol. But a good subject needs care on the backgrounds as well. They don't need to be detailed. Try taking photos of a focused subject where the background is somewhat blurred. You can always do something like that for a background that complements your subject. A darker background for a light subject and a lighter background for a dark subject. I always start painting what is farthest away and work my way forward while blending, taking care that my subject doesn't look "cut and pasted" onto the background.

Number two is subject "depth". Many folks make the mistake of thinking that all shadows are black. You didn't, as I can see on the man's shirt. Inner folds are a deeper blue than the outer folds. So - You're one step ahead already. But I think that you could use more shadowing and highlights, and more saturation and contrast in general. Just my

Rave, thanks so much for the honest assessment of my work! I really appreciate it. Interesting that your favorite is the one I did first for the barn owner. That's one I did without anyone telling me which photo to use, etc. However, the first one, with the zebra stripes, was on my own, too. Lots of people don't like the striped background, but it was a private joke between me and the horse owner -- she loves to decorate her horse with zebra patterned things. I really do better when I can pick my subjects, but some years ago, I tried selling horses I drew in pastels that simply inspired me, not someone's horse, and I didn't get many takers. People want their horse, preferably with them. I can probably get away insisting that I don't do people well, but I think I will get more business by doing someone's specific pet. Also, I think there's a certain discipline to me having to do a picture on command, since it's harder sometimes. I don't mind drawing someone's Pekingese -- as long as I'm fairly satisfied with how it turns out.

You are right about the backgrounds. I really should pay more attention to them. Sometimes the backgrounds in the picture are uninteresting, like the wall of a barn, and I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to put in a different background and match the slant of the light, etc. So I've been avoiding it.

Even if I never make enough money to more than cover the materials, drawing these pictures has been an interesting journey. I'm learning a lot about how to see things, what shape and color they really are, not just what my eyes assume.

Thanks again for the advice. Maybe I should just try a landscape to get in practice for backgrounds? I had that idea about getting better at people and am struggling right now with a portrait of my young nephew. Not going well. And yes, I have to get bolder with the shadows and highlights. I'm too timid, afraid of making it look garish, etc. I'm learning this on my nephew's face. I really have to figure out what color those shadows are, but I'm afraid of making it look like he has a beard!

 

[SandySu]

Awesome drawings Sandy. I wish I had the patience for it myself. I can draw well if I put my mind to it but i'm never satisfied with the end result. I always feel it could be better and end up scrapping it. lol

I have the same problem. I'm never satisfied. But I've learned to live with imperfection. Another challenge is to pick away at the drawing just enough to improve it and not so much I make a mess of it. Lots of psychological stuff to learn when drawing!

 

[gadgetx23]

Re: Bounty Hunter in SI cartos

Well, I tried the condom method. 20 drops, then 5 more dripped. Let it sit 30 min. About 5 puffs in it started to taste bad already.

I tried another with 20 drops in the boot, then 2 drops of vodka; then added 5 drips bounty hunter to the top. So far so good on this one...! Still not sure why I would have to do this on a relatively thin juice, but I guess I'm happy to be able to use it!

 

[Imagine]

is it dark in color?

Well, I tried the condom method. 20 drops, then 5 more dripped. Let it sit 30 min. About 5 puffs in it started to taste bad already.

I tried another with 20 drops in the boot, then 2 drops of vodka; then added 5 drips bounty hunter to the top. So far so good on this one...! Still not sure why I would have to do this on a relatively thin juice, but I guess I'm happy to be able to use it!

 

[marlou]

Well, I tried the condom method. 20 drops, then 5 more dripped. Let it sit 30 min. About 5 puffs in it started to taste bad already.

I tried another with 20 drops in the boot, then 2 drops of vodka; then added 5 drips bounty hunter to the top. So far so good on this one...! Still not sure why I would have to do this on a relatively thin juice, but I guess I'm happy to be able to use it!

When I first started using cartos I almost gave up on them. lol After you use them awhile you sort of get a feel for filling them and telling when to top them off.

After you have filled the carto from the boot, instead of counting drops you add to the top keep adding till the surface looks wet and sort of slushy. I've never added vodka but I know others on ECF do to thin liquids. I might have to try that sometime myself!

I don't remember, did you say what kind of battery you're using the cartos on? I'm just assuming it's a Volt.

 

[Wuzznt Me]

hi the gold came in last night right before everyone was heading home...inventory has been counted ...and the batts will be restocked on the sight....

to be added:

trial packs - 1batt (white 65mm orange led's only), 2 cartos (ice menthol/country-cowboy 18mg only) and 1x usb for $19.99

10,000 mah portable usb chargers

gold batts

black soft rubber mouth pieces 5 packs (drip tips)

Well that's great news about the soft rubber tips. That's the one and only thing I've ever ordered from B.... They charged me more for shipping than the tips cost. They're super for hanging a Volt for hands free vaping. I happy camper.

 

[marlou]

is it dark in color?

Imagine, Bounty Hunter is a clear orange color, very similar to the color of New Grape.

 

[Imagine]

hmm ok.... maybe still underfilled...or there is a heavy amount of ingredients that do not vaporize... if vodka is working that works

Imagine, Bounty Hunter is a clear orange color, very similar to the color of New Grape.

 

[gadgetx23]

Yes, I am using a Volt 78mm sealed auto. I also spoke too soon on the Vodka trick. It seemed to keep a good flavor for a little longer, but back to the crappy taste again very quickly. I'm putting plenty in and keeping it topped off. It's slushy on top, and just starts tasting like when you light an analog backwards!

I don't have any trouble with the Smokeless Image juices, and I also use a few other vendors with 80/20 without any trouble.

 

[EleanorR]

I too am having difficulty with my most recent order of Volt blanks -- even when using Volt juice.

If I figure out a solution, I'll post it.

 

[marlou]

Yes, I am using a Volt 78mm sealed auto. I also spoke too soon on the Vodka trick. It seemed to keep a good flavor for a little longer, but back to the crappy taste again very quickly. I'm putting plenty in and keeping it topped off. It's slushy on top, and just starts tasting like when you light an analog backwards!

I don't have any trouble with the Smokeless Image juices, and I also use a few other vendors with 80/20 without any trouble.

I went back and re-read your posts and see that it tasted good when you put it in a carto that had previously had RY4 in it and that the Bounty Hunter had just gotten to you. I have another thought about this: I have used Bounty Hunter since last May or June and when I got my first Volts in July started using it in their cartos with no problem. However, I never vape Bounty Hunter right out of the mail, but let it steep for 3 or 4 weeks.

Do you have any other kind of PV to taste the Bounty Hunter in? It may just taste bad because it hasn't steeped and the RY4 left in the carto may have been just enough to take away the bad taste an unsteeped juice can have.

 

[cindycated]

Yes, I am using a Volt 78mm sealed auto. I also spoke too soon on the Vodka trick. It seemed to keep a good flavor for a little longer, but back to the crappy taste again very quickly. I'm putting plenty in and keeping it topped off. It's slushy on top, and just starts tasting like when you light an analog backwards!

I don't have any trouble with the Smokeless Image juices, and I also use a few other vendors with 80/20 without any trouble.

Hmmm...with higher VG juices, some suppliers thin them down for you without asking, some you have to ask. Some forget.

I know sometimes it's a little harder to get dry new cartos started. But once you get it "primed," you're good to go after that. Maybe do what you've already tried, get it slushy on top, put a condom on the threaded end and Taryn Spin the heck out of it, then see if there's room to add more juice to get it slushy again. If you're filling from the top, sometimes the liquid gets stuck in the top half of the filler - it'll still look slushy, even though it's not filled enough for the liquid to reach the coil. (I know this, because I've had some fillers pop out on me, and only the top half is stained with juice.)

Lately, I've been condom filling from the bottom, like a lot of other people have been doing all this time, apparently (I'm a little slow) - fill a non-spiked condom then slowly dunk the carto down into it, threaded side first. Let it sit for awhile, then slowly blow into it to clear out excess juice. To clean off the post and threads, screw the carto onto the battery with a napkin in between a couple of times (MustangSallie's tip). Haven't had that burnt taste in a really long time, but then, I only use 80/20 juice now. And I usually fill the night before, then blow them out the next day.

 

[gadgetx23]

I don't have another PV; all Volt supplies. I filled another carto with Bounty Hunter that previously had Cinnamon Danish in it, and it's been vaping well all night. Seems to be just a fresh carto problem with BH. I don't think it's a steeping issue, it doesn't taste 'off'; it's awful. I do get a good flavor for a few puffs though, which seems strange.

 

[gadgetx23]

I too am having difficulty with my most recent order of Volt blanks -- even when using Volt juice.

If I figure out a solution, I'll post it.

I just got 10 packs in; hope they're not an issue!

I filled one with 555 and it's been fine, and actually another with a sampler that came with my BH and it's been fine too, though haven't vaped it much b/c I didn't really like it. I've gone through 6 other cartos trying to get BH to work right.

 

[Imagine]

well if other flavors are vaping fine...it has got to be something with the BH ;(

I just got 10 packs in; hope they're not an issue!

I filled one with 555 and it's been fine, and actually another with a sampler that came with my BH and it's been fine too, though haven't vaped it much b/c I didn't really like it. I've gone through 6 other cartos trying to get BH to work right.

 

[Imagine]

batteries and pcc's restocked on the site

trial packs also on the site