Ohio University Considers MANDATORY Re-Education Classes For Smokers (and vapers)

[bobrob]

"The ban will outlaw every use of cigarettes and e-cigarettes on any part of the 1,850-acre public university campus."

Yikes!

Ohio University Considers MANDATORY Re-Education Classes For Smokers

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Lombardi also said he doesn’t want the campus to “become a police state” and that students who refuse to be re-educated wouldn’t be expelled.

It’s not clear what the magic number for compulsory re-education would be.

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[bobrob]

Seriously, can you have compulsory re-education WITHOUT a police state? Isn't it part of the definition of police state?

 

[DrMA]

OMG! What is wrong with these people? Compulsory re-education? What is this Nazi Germany?

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

I wonder if it's going to be a camp?

These people are insane, what next armed smoke police? If it looks like smoke it must be smoke.

 

[AndriaD]

OMG! What is wrong with these people? Compulsory re-education? What is this Nazi Germany?

Or the USSR.

I keep saying it, the ANTZ are nothing but fascists. They're now showing their true colors.

Andria

 

[bobrob]

I wonder what "re-education" would look like (seriously)?

I'm picturing Mr. Mackey with a semester of "Smoking is bad m'kay".

More likely the Clockwork Orange type though.

 

[DC2]

I would LOVE to be put into one of those classes.
And I'd be the one doing the re-educating.

 

[DC2]

Which reminds me...

I'm currently engaged in a forced (to avoid $50/month charge) re-education program regarding tobacco cessation.
And I am definitely the one doing the re-educating, one tobacco cessation counselor at a time.

I've already spoken to three different counselors.
Hopefully in my next session I'll get a different one again.

 

[Rickajho]

OMG! What is wrong with these people? Compulsory re-education? What is this Nazi Germany?

That, or "brainwashing cult" comes to mind.

When are these people going to learn? If you clench your .... cheeks tight enough the center of your own personal universe implodes. Not to mention the incoming applications from new students. Good luck wid dat.

 

[classwife]

Run Forrest ! Ruuuuunnnn !!!

 

[Bill Godshall]

This very same thing has been going on for two decades with underage tobacco users who are caught using (or even possessing) tobacco products at high schools in all 50 states, and everywhere in about half of the states (that have made it illegal for youth to use or possess tobacco products).

Back in 1999, I was featured on a CBS NEWS 60 Minutes segment exposing that the tobacco industry was lobbying for laws to ban and penalize youth who were caught using or possessing tobacco products. The segment also showed a Florida Judge holding "tobacco court" where he lectured and threatened to fine or throw high school students in jail if they didn't quit smoking.

During the past several years, ANTZ have aggressively lobbied hundreds of universities to ban all tobacco use (and vaping) on the entire campuse, with somewhat similar punitive sanctions for violators. But I'm not aware of any university students (at any university) who were caught violating these "NO USE" policies actually being fined, suspended, expelled or required to attend classes, counseling or tobacco cessation programs. In sum, these no tobacco use policies at universities are unenforceable, and are not enforced.

 

[Jingles]

I live in Ohio and that school has a big "party" reputation. Lots of alcohol flowing, kids getting hurt and dyeing from too much alcohol. When's the last time a student died from smoking or vaping? Hypocrites! I'm glad my kids didn't go there!

 

[bobrob]

When I was in college (25 years ago), we had to agree to the "Student Code". If you were accused of a violation, you could be "tried" by a Student Court, made up of members of the Student Government. I assume Ohio has something similar.

Here is the future I see coming:

In the Ohio scenario, vaping could be seen as a violation of the Student Code, this could happen. And guess what types of people tend to make up the majority of Student Government (at least at my old school): the same kind of goobs that wind up running for real public office in about 10 years. How do you think they are going to vote?

 

[Painter_]

I feel so ashamed since that is were I did my undergrad.

 

[Anjaffm]

OMG! What is wrong with these people? Compulsory re-education? What is this Nazi Germany?

The Cultural Revolution in China also comes to mind Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Compulsory re-education has been quite common in fascist / communist dictatorships.

George Orwell's "1984" also comes to mind. Nineteen Eighty-Four - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Big Brother and the Party justify their oppressive rule in the name of a supposed greater good

You see, in fascism and communism, anybody disagreeing that the rule of the "leader" is "for the greater good" (i.e. also for their own good, of course) is wrong and must be re-educated. Which re-education is, of course, compulsory.

I am appalled that a university in an allegedly democratic country calls for compulsory re-education.

 

[Anjaffm]

Which reminds me...

I'm currently engaged in a forced (to avoid $50/month charge) re-education program regarding tobacco cessation.
And I am definitely the one doing the re-educating, one tobacco cessation counselor at a time.

I've already spoken to three different counselors.
Hopefully in my next session I'll get a different one again.

excellent!

 

[Kent C]

Newsflash - most universities have been re-education camps long before anyone ever heard of ecigarettes.

 

[Jman8]

Back in 1999, I was featured on a CBS NEWS 60 Minutes segment exposing that the tobacco industry was lobbying for laws to ban and penalize youth who were caught using or possessing tobacco products.

Sorry, but I find this really hard to believe, at least as a soundbite. Would seem to be a very good political reason for doing this, as in knowing a backlash would result and overcome those who sought to be so harsh on young people smoking.

If vaping was under half the scrutiny that BT was previously under, and knowing that vendors already refuse sales to minors, I'm thinking there would be a few in vaping community (i.e. vendors / manufacturers) that may go along with efforts to ban and penalize youth who were caught using. Heck, pretty sure that already exists in the vaping community.

I mean, if you are one reading this that thinks a ban on sales to minors makes great sense, then please tell me what you think ought to happen to a minor that is caught using one? Some sort of penalty or something close to nothing?

 

[AndriaD]

The Cultural Revolution in China also comes to mind Cultural Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Compulsory re-education has been quite common in fascist / communist dictatorships.

George Orwell's "1984" also comes to mind. Nineteen Eighty-Four - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


You see, in fascism and communism, anybody disagreeing that the rule of the "leader" is "for the greater good" (i.e. also for their own good, of course) is wrong and must be re-educated. Which re-education is, of course, compulsory.

I am appalled that a university in an allegedly democratic country calls for compulsory re-education.

Actually it's really not a new idea here; for a DUI, or any other driving offense that causes your license to be suspended, they also require the "compulsory re-education" in order to get your license back, and it's quite expensive, although all they really do is explain to you the difference between defensive and offensive driving and show you films of people getting splattered all over the road. The new idea is to equate smoking/vaping with driving while intoxicated or whatever lamebrain thing got your license pulled.

Andria