Ok one more question

[Papa Hoyt]

I really do wish you had your calipers though as that wold provide the definitive answer.

You and me both.

but it is kinda odd that the batteries slip flawlessly through the brass and not the SS. These are AW and from what I have been told these are some of the best cells you can get. Both did fine through the brass. To me this says that my SS has a tighter ID than the brass. I see no other reasoning as to why the battery is getting bound in there.

Do your 18650s slide through the SS like mine did through the brass?

 

[clavit]

Okay, now you got me curious!
I have a SSGGTS and the telescope measures 18.60mm ID. I use AW IMR's, BDL IMR's and a couple of unbranded IMR's that i suspect are also BDL products. All slide in and out with no problems.
My stash of old/used batteries only holds Trustfire 2400's and Ultrafire 3600. They fit fine as well.
It's not much help i know, but if your AW's turn out to be the problem, you can't go wrong with AW IMRs!

 

[Papa Hoyt]

Okay, now you got me curious!
I have a SSGGTS and the telescope measures 18.60mm ID. I use AW IMR's, BDL IMR's and a couple of unbranded IMR's that i suspect are also BDL products. All slide in and out with no problems.
My stash of old/used batteries only holds Trustfire 2400's and Ultrafire 3600. They fit fine as well.
It's not much help i know, but if your AW's turn out to be the problem, you can't go wrong with AW IMRs!

OK then are the IMRs slightly thinner than the black 2600 AW?

 

[Repent]

In my SSGGTS I use the AW IMR 18650 3.7v 1600 mAh that I bought from Lighthound as well. They are the red ones you spoke of. Love them. In and out easy with just the right amount of clearance.

I also have some AW Li-ion 18650 3.7v 2600 mAh (three raised dots on negative end) that seem tight when I try to put them in. Definitely tighter than the IMR's. The tightness is happening at the negative end of battery. The positive end goes in snuggly (no damage caused at this point) but when it gets to the negative end it stops. I didn't want to force it but it felt like because there was enough of the battery "left" to push through the telescope part that it would cause damage to the battery if I forced it.

Weird because I had figured I could use these push come to shove if my other IMR's were drained and needing a charge. Not likely as I have four IMR's that I rotate and charge as needed.

Also notice that the AW gets stuck in the part that connects the telescope to the top part of the GGTS (where battery contact plunger is.) The stuck part was again at the negative end. Stopped dead.

 

[Repent]

Hoyt where in GA are you? I grew up in a little area called Putney, a bedroom community to Albany.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

In my SSGGTS I use the AW IMR 18650 3.7v 1600 mAh that I bought from Lighthound as well. They are the red ones you spoke of. Love them. In and out easy with just the right amount of clearance.

I also have some AW Li-ion 18650 3.7v 2600 mAh (three raised dots on negative end) that seem tight when I try to put them in. Definitely tighter than the IMR's. The tightness is happening at the negative end of battery. The positive end goes in snuggly (no damage caused at this point) but when it gets to the negative end it stops. I didn't want to force it but it felt like because there was enough of the battery "left" to push through the telescope part that it would cause damage to the battery if I forced it.

Weird because I had figured I could use these push come to shove if my other IMR's were drained and needing a charge. Not likely as I have four IMR's that I rotate and charge as needed.

Also notice that the AW gets stuck in the part that connects the telescope to the top part of the GGTS (where battery contact plunger is.) The stuck part was again at the negative end. Stopped dead.

This sounds very similar to what I am experiencing. My AW Blacks have 3 dots on the negative side and it seems they are more prone to stick on the negative end. I have some resistance on the positive side but I do notice it more on the negative side.

But as you seen in the video the first battery to get peeled was the one that was peeled up by the positive end.
I would love to keep the capacity of of the AW Blacks but if they do not fit then they are no longer a viable option.

I will wait to see others responses to this thread before I purchase anymore batteries.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

Northeast corner of the state in Clayton GA

 

[clavit]

OK then are the IMRs slightly thinner than the black 2600 AW?

I couldn't tell you, as i don't have any AW 2600s. I guess that the IMRs should be thinner, if for no other reason than the absense of a protection circuit. The IMRs don't have the metal strip running from positive end to protection circuit.
Repent's reply would indicate that the AW2600 are indeed fatter than the IMRs.

 

[Papa Hoyt]

I couldn't tell you, as i don't have any AW 2600s. I guess that the IMRs should be thinner, if for no other reason than the absense of a protection circuit. The IMRs don't have the metal strip running from positive end to protection circuit.
Repent's reply would indicate that the AW2600 are indeed fatter than the IMRs.

It would appear so, I think I am gonna let this thread ride fora few hours to see what others think before I buy new batteries.

 

[fright88]

Looks like it isn't the correct diameter I would contact imeo and Bruce to see if it can be warrentied

 

[Bigbuyer]

I have been working with Matt.
I have sent him a new steel telescope I have tested with all my batteries.
And a new AW IC18650 2900mah battery.
I want him to be happy with his GG!

 

[Papa Hoyt]

I have been working with Matt.
I have sent him a new steel telescope I have tested with all my batteries.
And a new AW IC18650 2900mah battery.
I want him to be happy with his GG!

Bruce I would have been happy with just the correct telescope. As per our email you did not have to include the 2900 AW but I appreciate it.

I have always been happy with My GGTS the 729 Aluminum and now my 1200 SS. Like I said at the end of the video. I believe the GGTS is the best.

 

[fright88]

Wow spectacular service Bruce!!

 

[Major]

Indeed and now you other members of the GG family see how lucky we in the US are to have Bruce as our GG dealer!

I think there are some battery variences at play here as well. I have 5 AW P18650 2600's bought over the course of 2 months in 3 separate orders. They came from Super-T. 4 of the 5 literally fall thru the telescope on SS GGTS TMF #1376. The fifth lightly brushes the bottom of the telescope and I have to manually slide it in to feel that. Otherwise the battery's weight allow it to seat in the bottom on the spring so I have no problem.

Still not a bad record for AW's. My 18350's and 18500's, all the black protected AW's have no issues in the telescope so I have only one that is marginal and had it not been for this thread I wouldn't have looked for that or noticed it. Again, thanks Bruce for doing what you always do - Step up and make we GG fans happy! And Hoyt, Glad you are getting sorted.

Now let's just hope AW isn't letting their demand for porducts overcome what created that demand - A very good battery at a reasonable price!

 

[atavanhalen]

Indeed and now you other members of the GG family see how lucky we in the US are to have Bruce as our GG dealer!

I think there are some battery variences at play here as well. I have 5 AW P18650 2600's bought over the course of 2 months in 3 separate orders. They came from Super-T. 4 of the 5 literally fall thru the telescope on SS GGTS TMF #1376. The fifth lightly brushes the bottom of the telescope and I have to manually slide it in to feel that. Otherwise the battery's weight allow it to seat in the bottom on the spring so I have no problem.

Still not a bad record for AW's. My 18350's and 18500's, all the black protected AW's have no issues in the telescope so I have only one that is marginal and had it not been for this thread I wouldn't have looked for that or noticed it. Again, thanks Bruce for doing what you always do - Step up and make we GG fans happy! And Hoyt, Glad you are getting sorted.

Now let's just hope AW isn't letting their demand for porducts overcome what created that demand - A very good battery at a reasonable price!

Yeah there is definitely some differences in diameter from battery to battery but the fact that bothe go through the brass tube and wont go through the steel tube shows that the steel tube must be a bit out of spec, I believe I have read that Imeo tries to accommodate for the largest diameter 18*** that he has found that way most will always fit. I guess it doesnt much matter now because all is taken care of. I really want to know the difference in the I.D. of the two tubes, @Hoyt, do you have Harbor freight near you, if so I believe they have a cheapo set of calipers made of plastic for a few bucks.

 

[imeothanasis]

I want to thank Bruce for his exellent service. Usa people are very lucky that they have him as a seller and I am very lucky having him as a partener

Hoyt, I am sure that the issue is leftovers from the manufacturing process. They are on the edges of the tube. If you file the edges from the inside then your batteries will fit for sure

 

[Papa Hoyt]

Wow spectacular service Bruce!!

Iagree what he is doing is top shelf!

Indeed and now you other members of the GG family see how lucky we in the US are to have Bruce as our GG dealer! Hoyt, Glad you are getting sorted.

Agreed and I could get no happier that this will be fixed.

Yeah there is definitely some differences in diameter from battery to battery but the fact that both go through the brass tube and wont go through the steel tube shows that the steel tube must be a bit out of spec, Hoyt, do you have Harbor freight near you, if so I believe they have a cheapo set of calipers made of plastic for a few bucks.

I do not have a HF near me at all. I will get another caliper but Bruce wants the SS telescope sent back to him so by the time I gett a set to replace the one that I cannot find Bruce will have it back.

I want to thank Bruce for his exellent service. Usa people are very lucky that they have him as a seller and I am very lucky having him as a partener

Hoyt, I am sure that the issue is leftovers from the manufacturing process. They are on the edges of the tube. If you file the edges from the inside then your batteries will fit for sure

If there is any leftovers I cannot see where. The tube was rubbed with a qtip cotton swab and did not hang on any burrs. If I stick a pencil through the tube and hang the tube from the pencil on it side and look inside while I roll the tube it lays flat on the pencil all the way across.

To the best of my ability I cannot find anything wrong with the tube other than the batteries will not go through the tube without forcing them. This leaves me with the opinion that the ID is smaller than what it should be.

I wish I had my caliper, it would have been easier, but I have improvised into a few tests to find out what I could.

Also if I place RCR123 in each tube it appears that there is more room around the battery in the brass than the steel.

I really do not know any more tests I can do to. Bruce should have the tube back by the end of the week.

 

[atavanhalen]

I really do not know any more tests I can do to. Bruce should have the tube back by the end of the week.

Oh well, it doesnt matter anyways as long as you have a replacement that is right.

 

[imeothanasis]

Yes, as van said, you will have the new tube soon Hoyt. But if you want to keep the old one too then you can take a sandpaper and sand a little the tube inside.

 

[dspin]

I have been working with Matt.
I have sent him a new steel telescope I have tested with all my batteries.
And a new AW IC18650 2900mah battery.
I want him to be happy with his GG!

Here we go again, another example of the excellent over and above customer service that Bruce provides. Another reason I buy everything I need from Bruce if he has it.