OMG Chemicals In E-Liquids Eesh!

[Sirius]

Well yeah..but exactly what did you expect?

From a well known e-liquids site:

.All liquid containing "custard notes" from ALL VENDORS contain some combination of Diacetyl, Acetoin, and/or Acytyl Propionyl (collectively known as "diketones"). This liquid does *not* contain Diacetyl, but it *does* contain Acetoin, Acytyl Propionyl; or both. It is *impossible* to produce the "rich, creamy, decadent, full-mouth experience" in eliquid without diketones. Such is life - everything that tastes good is bad for you. Potential users are advised that there may be reason for pause due to an absence of longitudinal research which can provide adequate guidance with regard to the relative safety of inhaling eliquid containing diketones


Food for thought..heh heh..what if natural foods came with a list of ingredients?

 

[Hulamoon]

Love it. LOL

 

[KC1BLE]

I'll never eat another banana...who knew?

 

[Maiar]

I've always said when those Hershey ads come on talking about how awesome they are because they use "Simple ingredients that you can actually pronounce" that they're just dumbing it down for the hysterical idiots. Guess what? All those ingredients you can pronounce are made out of ones you can't!

 

[Sirius]

I did not know blueberries had "fresh air" in them. No more blueberries for me!

 

[Skeebo]

I did not know blueberries had "fresh air" in them. No more blueberries for me!

That's why I always choose the one freshly picked off the grocery store floor.

 

[Sirius]

That's why I always choose the one freshly picked off the grocery store floor.

I find that the best e-liquid is the one that was turned over while I fumbled with my Reo trying to get the bottle out. It spills all over the carpet and I soak it up with an organic cotton rag,...used a week ago to dust my furniture,..I use Old English btw...squeezed into my 6ml bottle! All natural and homey.

 

[Sirius]

From a famous All Natural E-Liquid vendor:

We only use the highest quality ingredients, including Premium Propylene Glycol (PG), Premium Non-GMO Soy-Free Vegetable Glycerin (VG), Premium All-natural Flavors, and Premium Nicotine (added as requested). Although some of our juices are naturally sweet, we never use sucralose. We optimize the PG/VG ratio for each flavor, so the ratios for each flavor are unique to the flavor. We use extremely precise measuring techniques to ensure absolute consistency of our products. Many vendors do add alcohol to give more throat hit. We add absolutely nothing to our juices other than natural flavors, carrier, and of course, your preferred nic level. HOWEVER, many of our natural flavors do contain very small amounts of food grade alcohol, but a thorough steeping will allow this to evaporate. Our juices are USA-made and diacetyl-free.

All natural? huum

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Yes, the flavoring is the most dangerous variable in e-liquid. When it comes to flavoring, the FDA has a category called, "Generally Regarded as Safe (GRAS)". Just saying that it is not specifically meeting a threshold or dangerous level. So they say.

I was reading an article about the number of ingredients and it cited banana flavoring, among major flavors, that it has over 300 sub-chemicals. Strawberry was cited as being the next with the most sub-chemicals. Please note that the word "chemicals" and "ingredients" can be used inter-changeably. Food makers tend to use "ingredients" because it sells easier. I was also surprised that produce was mentioned as having a lot of secondary chemicals.

For my own reference, or place to lose track of information, I dump stuff into my blog.

All-in-all, I do think vaping is definitely harm reduction. But, I would like to see vendors post information about where they get their "ingredients" or what quality they use. A perfect example of the benefit is when I show an "skeptic" a vendor website, it is says right there on the front page.

I would pay more for my health, and for the future use of vaping.

 

[Sirius]

From an ORGANIC e-liquids site..Man these are getting funnier every time. Arsenic is organic and all natural though! Bwahahahaha

As users of our own products, we are very particular about what goes into our e-liquid. Many e-liquids available today contain artificial flavors, artificial colors, artificial sweeteners and other nasty chemicals. We believe artificial flavors, colors, and sweeteners don't belong in our food, and certainly don't belong in our e-liquid!
Our ingredients are simple: nicotine, organic vegetable glycerin, distilled water and certified organic flavors. Some of our organic flavors come in an organic ethyl alcohol base. If you would prefer an alcohol-free e-liquid, please order from our Absolute line. On request, your e-liquid will also contain propylene glycol. Our e-liquids NEVER contain artificial colors, artificial flavors, artificial sweeteners or any other additives.
We have tested for heavy metals with spectacular results. Mercury was not detected in any concentration despite a sensitive detection limit of 0.006 parts per million. Similarly, lead, chromium and cadmium were not detected in any concentration. Arsenic was just barely detectible at 0.035 parts per million, an extremely minute concentration.
All of our ingredients are made in the U.S.A. No part of our e-liquid is manufactured in China because, while China produces many wonderful products, we do not feel the quality control is reliable enough for inclusion in a ***************. Our nicotine is 100% U.S.A made from hand picked tobacco leaves grown in North Carolina. We never use nor have in our e-liquid kitchen any nicotine over 48 mg for the safety of both our customers and ourselves. All of our flavorings are third party certified organic. They are gluten and sugar free, and are both vegan and Kosher. We also package in glass, not plastic, to prevent chemicals such as BPA leaching into your e-liquid. While all of these things cost us a bit extra, we simply do not skimp when it comes to quality. We promise, you will taste the difference!

 

[Sirius]

Yes, the flavoring is the most dangerous variable in e-liquid. When it comes to flavoring, the FDA has a category called, "Generally Regarded as Safe (GRAS)". Just saying that it is not specifically meeting a threshold or dangerous level. So they say.

I was reading an article about the number of ingredients and it cited banana flavoring, among major flavors, that it has over 300 sub-chemicals. Strawberry was cited as being the next with the most sub-chemicals. Please note that the word "chemicals" and "ingredients" can be used inter-changeably. Food makers tend to use "ingredients" because it sells easier. I was also surprised that produce was mentioned as having a lot of secondary chemicals.

For my own reference, or place to lose track of information, I dump stuff into my blog.

All-in-all, I do think vaping is definitely harm reduction. But, I would like to see vendors post information about where they get their "ingredients" or what quality they use. A perfect example of the benefit is when I show an "skeptic" a vendor website, it is says right there on the front page.

I would pay more for my health, and for the future use of vaping.

Good point Frenchfry..I couldn't sleep last night and got to thinking after reading a study my Dr Farsalinos..you may have seen that in another thread.
E-cigarette aerosol contains 6 times LESS formaldehyde than tobacco cigarette smoke

So I got to thinking just how complicated this eliquid,...ecig nit picking has gotten. I'm not freakin' smoking anymore and I feel any chemicals I'm inhaling can't be any worse than when I did. On the plus side..I feel better and smell a whole lot better.

 

[shortdraw]

I feel my methylbutyrate levels dropping as we speak...

 

[Jimi D.]

This thread should be a sticky. I love it bro !

 

[Sirius]

This thread should be a sticky. I love it bro !

That's because you and I have a similar sense of humor.

Thanks brotha.

 

[Jimi D.]

That's because you and I have a similar sense of humor.

Thanks brotha.

We sure do
Good seeing you man !

 

[Sirius]

We sure do
Good seeing you man !

Good seeing you as well bro. I'm having fun on some of these eliquid sites..Who writes these things anyway? lmao

 

[Lynn Miller]

I did not know blueberries had "fresh air" in them. No more blueberries for me!

Are we sure the air is "fresh"? Has it been tested by an independent lab?

 

[Sirius]

So, we started mixing, blending and flavoring for ourselves and our friends - brewing micro batches of unique e-liquids with every aspect of the vaping experience in mind - the taste, the texture, the quality... Eventually local smoke shops - looking for a higher quality, and more boutique alternative to their usual stock - asked if we would share the goodness with them as well. Since then we've taken to the forums, and begun reaching out to the larger vaping community. If you're here, we can assume it worked, and we couldn't be happier to have you.

We pride ourselves on offering some of the best and most unique E-Liquid blends out there.
We DO NOT use: Propylene Glycol, Diacetyl, Food Coloring, Artificial Sweeteners, or anything else weird of any sort...

If the local farmer's market made e-liquid - this would be it. Hand selected ingredients and recipes perfected over a long period.
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Huum..brewed eliquids..who'd a thunk it...The texture of my last eliquid was a bit foggy..I swear it felt a bit like..well..vapor!

 

[Sirius]

Are we sure the air is "fresh"? Has it been tested by an independent lab?

I pondered this exact question while vaping a well textured cloud.

 

[Sirius]

Ingredients for an all natural cloud:

Atmospheric Ingredients
Atmospheric ingredients are the elements in the atmosphere responsible for cloud formation. When these ingredients come together in the right quantities and the right time, cloud formation occurs. The atmospheric ingredients needed in order for clouds to form include water, pressure or temperature changes and dust particles.

Water
Water is one of the atmospheric ingredients used during cloud formation. In order for water molecules to collect, they must have a surface. Once water molecules collect they mix with the other atmospheric ingredients to form a cloud.

Dust Particles
Dust particles are a necessary atmospheric ingredient in cloud formation. Unless relative humidity exceeds 100%, dust particles must be present in order for a cloud to form. This dust can come from a number of sources such as ocean sea spray, volcanoes, fires or cars. Other atmospheric particles can play the role of dust such as bacteria.

Nobody should EVER fuss about my vape clouds EVER again! I mean it too..lol