On average, how long does it take for unflavored nic juice to expire?

[lurk]

I usually buy 50mg/ml juice from xtreme vaping but becuase of the current my feedom smokes sale I'm thinking of stocking up and getting 500ml of 100mg/ml unflavored ejuice. But I want to figure out if I'll use it all before it goes bad. I did some searching on the forums but I couldn't find a clear answer. Some people say 1 year others say up to 2. If I keep vaping at my current rate I think it will take me about a year and a half or more to finish it off. Is it worth it to buy the 500ml or should I just get 250ml that I know I'll finish off within a year? thanks for the help

 

[B Pak]

I would just go with the 250, that's still quite a fair amount of nic

 

[upStomp]

FWIW, I bought 250ml of 100mg nic in December and I'm on track to have it last almost exactly 1 year. That's to keep 2 people vaping.

 

[banjo]

If you keep it in your fridge and away from direct light, it should last at least 2 years.

 

[srcowell]

100mg/ml juice would usually be cut with three times as much PG or VG to come out to 25mg/ml, a strong average strength. That's 1/4 nic and 3/4 juice. So the 500ml of nicotine would mix with 1500ml of juice to make 2000ml of combined 25mg/ml juice. If you measure that out into 30ml bottles, you'd get close to 67 bottles. If you use 5ml a day like I do easily, 30ml would last less than a week, so I'd probably use about 60 bottles of 30ml juice in a year. Probably more. So it's not hard to imagine using those 67 bottles in about a year.

Man, I vape too much! LOL

 

[B Pak]

100mg/ml juice would usually be cut with three times as much PG or VG to come out to 25mg/ml, a strong average strength. That's 1/4 nic and 3/4 juice. So the 500ml of nicotine would mix with 1500ml of juice to make 2000ml of combined 25mg/ml juice. If you measure that out into 30ml bottles, you'd get close to 67 bottles. If you use 5ml a day like I do easily, 30ml would last less than a week, so I'd probably use about 60 bottles of 30ml juice in a year. Probably more. So it's not hard to imagine using those 67 bottles in about a year.

Man, I vape too much! LOL

Yeah you do, holy crap! haha

 

[mwa102464]

I would buy 125ml's of the 100 cut it in half for 250ml's of 50mg and you know you will use it before it goes bad, I do my buys every 3 months now and always have fresh this way.

 

[deusXmchna]

I had an exchange with a chemist that worked with nicotine professionally. She was hesitant to go outside of MSDS storage info for obvious professional reasons, but then again I was talking about stockpiling some higher %nic.
The one important tidbit that I gained from the exchange was: freezing smaller quantities, and absolutely avoiding repeated freeze/thaw cycles.
but that might be beyond your needs.

the disclaimers in my sig apply doubly here.

 

[Mayasveil]

The one important tidbit that I gained from the exchange was: freezing smaller quantities, and absolutely avoiding repeated freeze/thaw cycles.

Your right deusXmchna. I purchased a vat, dividing it into smaller portions and froze it all except a container in use. that bottle is kept in the butter compartment (by its' self) in the frig. Since I only have 1 finger to type, wanna expound the reasons / benifits to freezing?

 

[deusXmchna]

Your right deusXmchna. I purchased a vat, dividing it into smaller portions and froze it all except a container in use. that bottle is kept in the butter compartment (by its' self) in the frig. Since I only have 1 finger to type, wanna expound the reasons / benifits to freezing?

It's not gonna be a very exciting answer.... maybe someone more intimate with nicotine chemistry can jump in.
I don't know what the primary mean(s) of degradation are going to be with the stuff we're generally working with-
but the general rule is "the colder it is, the slower the degradation.". That's just because chemical and biological processes
slow down as the temperature drops.
The rules of thumb on preserving stuff (<- technical term) are
Keep away from

• heat
• light
• oxygen
• moisture

In most of our cases, the best we can do about oxygen is just keep it tightly capped. There are a few tricks to laying heavier than o2 gas into a bottle or jar that are a little effective, but I'm not going to expound on that- if you're capable of doing it, you know how to, or know how to figure it out. Probably not that important here.
Moisture is another one that's going to be hard to control outside of.. well, a controlled environment- and it's probably not the primary worry.
So that leaves us with heat and light

Dark/opaque bottles, and cold storage cover it.

A freezer may be overkill. Kinda depends on how big your stock is. But cold is better than hot
Oh, and the scientist I had the exchange with was using NON frost-free freezers. I never knew why, so I just looked it up, and frost-free freezers heat up a bit to melt the frost every now and again, so it's not an absolutely stable environment. I don't think that matters to us. She was doing some heavy neuropharm stuff- we're just trying to keep our nic viable for vaping.

Hope something in this pile o babble helps
-so to "bottom-line" it: stuff (usually) happens slower when it's colder. (that's not an absolute statement. when getting into some areas of physics & semi-conductor materials, things happen in weird and wild ways)