On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[LV_VAPE_LIFE]

This is the thread I have been waiting for!

 

[LV_VAPE_LIFE]

do u think china will still ship to usa ? black market?

Someone in China will. I may get a warehouse in MX and do orders for all but USA eventually..

 

[crxess]

Now all you can do is pull completely baseless accusations out of thin air instead of factually discussing something.

Difficult to Factually Discuss something that May or May not come to pass, but in all likelihood <Seems> imminent. Maybe not immediately, but eventually.

I Still have a Major concern I have not and will not post to:
a) Avoid unnecessary panic
b) Further enlighten the Enemy

I sincerely hope this is one time I am wrong.

 

[r055co]

Blue skies forever optimism is a nice plan...until the storm hits. I see huge dark clouds moving my way and will prepare accordingly. Those that haven't can just feed their vaping habit from the corner store with the approved cig-a-likes.

The fable of The Grasshopper and the Ant comes to mind.

I'm taking the Ants lead [emoji57]

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[leftyandsparky]

Dear Ocala guy,
If eliquid is deemed a tobacco product, Marion Co will tax the snot out of it.

 

[r055co]

Dear Ocala guy,
If eliquid is deemed a tobacco product, Marion Co will tax the snot out of it.

On August 8th is according to the FDA.

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[VNeil]

Simply your own completely unsubstantiated with anything other than, Cause I think so, Guess that they will do the same with E-Cigs.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

My state law was previously posted here. No interstate transactions of "tobacco products" except for specifically exempted products. The fed just deemed vape gear a "tobacco product". Why do you persist in this???????

 

[leftyandsparky]

On August 8th is according to the FDA.

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Ocala will get their money. Just look at how much a pack of cigarettes are and the taxes on them for Marion

 

[OcalaFlGuy]

Ocala will get their money. Just look at how much a pack of cigarettes are and the taxes on them for Marion

There aren't County taxes in Marion country on Tobacco. They get an apportioned amount of the State taxes.
Generally, Gov. Scott has reduced and even elimanated taxes.
The plaintiff in one of the big FDA suits is Halo, only about 150 miles from the State Capitol.

At least under Scott, I would be surprised at any New tax that would be onerous to any one
particular industry. Not gonna happen.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

 

[leftyandsparky]

There aren't County taxes in Marion country on Tobacco. They get an apportioned amount of the State taxes.
Generally, Gov. Scott has reduced and even elimanated taxes.
The plaintiff in one of the big FDA suits is Halo, only about 150 miles from the State Capitol.

At least under Scott, I would be surprised at any New tax that would be onerous to any one
particular industry. Not gonna happen.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Taxes will happen in Florida, Marion Co is part of Florida...

 

[VNeil]

There aren't County taxes in Marion country on Tobacco. They get an apportioned amount of the State taxes.
Generally, Gov. Scott has reduced and even elimanated taxes.
The plaintiff in one of the big FDA suits is Halo, only about 150 miles from the State Capitol.

At least under Scott, I would be surprised at any New tax that would be onerous to any one
particular industry. Not gonna happen.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

You seem to be arguing that Florida has low tobacco taxes. Let's look at the real numbers...

http://www.taxadmin.org/assets/docs/Research/Rates/cigarette.pdf

The Florida tax is $1.34/pack. The median tax of all states is $1.53/pack. Only very modestly below average.

Compare to Missouri ($0.17), Virginia ($0.30) or North Carolina ($0.45). Now that's low tax.

 

[GaryInTexas]

I'm so confident in the future blue skies I just ordered 4 more Kayfuns to go with my 15 already in my stash. I am not at peak optimism today.

 

[Str8vision]

You seem to be arguing that Florida has low tobacco taxes. Let's look at the real numbers...

http://www.taxadmin.org/assets/docs/Research/Rates/cigarette.pdf

The Florida tax is $1.34/pack. The median tax of all states is $1.53/pack. Only very modestly below average.

Compare to Missouri ($0.17), Virginia ($0.30) or North Carolina ($0.45). Now that's low tax.

Wasn't Florida one of the very first states to sue BT and win guaranteed annual payments? Doesn't BT add $0.44 to every pack sold in Florida -just- to cover the cost of making those annual payments? Isn't that in addition to the $1.339 per pack Florida charges for state excise tax? So doesn't Florida "actually" get around $1.78 per pack ($17.80 from every carton), for cigarettes sold there?

 

[grandmato5]

For anyone wanting "specific law" and not just hearsay for Maryland here is the state law signed by their governor May 4th, 2010.

http://pipesmagazine.com/wp-content/2011-news/maryland-law/Ch_388_hb0088E.pdf

 

[Mowgli]

OK. I understand that a Mech Mod would still work after an EMP.
How to charge batteries?
Would solar panels that are currently available withstand EMP?
Any sort of 10K+ mah storage device that would?
Are all of the consumer level 18650 chargers chipped in some way or are there any that would survive?

Even the simplest chargers at RTD advertise reverse polarity protection, etc

 

[grandmato5]

For anyone wanting to read the specific law, not hearsay, for Florida "tobacco products" here in the 2012 Florida Statues is the law: title XIV Chapter 210. 210.25-210.75 covers current tax law on Tobacco products other then cigarettes.

Chapter 210 - 2012 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate

 

[r055co]

OK. I understand that a Mech Mod would still work after an EMP.
How to charge batteries?
Would solar panels that are currently available withstand EMP?
Any sort of 10K+ mah storage device that would?
Are all of the consumer level 18650 chargers chipped in some way or are there any that would survive?

Even the simplest chargers at RTD advertise reverse polarity protection, etc

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[VNeil]

For anyone wanting "specific law" and not just hearsay for Maryland here is the state law signed by their governor May 4th, 2010.

http://pipesmagazine.com/wp-content/2011-news/maryland-law/Ch_388_hb0088E.pdf

And my reading confirms a prohibition of mail order of Other Tobacco Products...

 

[Two_Bears]

Get used to it. More and more companies will, in all likelihood, follow suit. I'd much rather have to provide ID and sign on delivery than provide a copy of my license or other form of ID and send it in to the company.

Agree 100%. SE Ding in proof they require could lead to even more identity theft we have now.

 

[Two_Bears]

I would prefer that as well. Just wasn't expecting it so quick.

That is why prepping NOW rather than later because later the US Snail may refuse to deliver tobacco abd vape related supplies.