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Alright you super helpful folks..I need HELP
I think this was the thread that was tossing this stuff around
Put together a Subtank Mini from parts from FT today
$5.38 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK Mini Air Flow Control Valve Base - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$5.59 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK Mini RBA Plus Coil Head - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$1.70 Acrylic SUBTANK Mini Bell Cap - translucent / 37.5mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
I put this together and it leaks like a sieve. Out the a/flow.
I tried another bell cap, one of these
$7.79 Acrylic SUBTANK Mini Bell Cap w/ POM 510 Drip Tip (5-Pack) 5-pack - 39.2mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
and it still leaks.
This is a new set up for me. I am unfamiliar with this atty although the Subtank mini that I used before came all assembled and no leaky.
Am I missing a part? Please help
But why?
You can buy subtank clone for much cheaper, the one with good reviews and spare parts.
$13.85 SUBTANK Mini V2 Styled OCC Clearomizer - 4.5ml / 0.5ohm (15W-30W) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 

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In the pics I didn't see any o-rings. Did any come with the stuff you ordered?
the base came with one on it where the ball cap screws on. There is no oring on the chimney though, on either type of bell cap. Wondering if this is the problem
 

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When mine leaks, it's usually because I did not put in enough wicking material. I turn mine upside down, wrap paper towel around the base and blow out the excess liquid if it's just flooding. That normally fixes it.

I use genuine and "styled" bases, genuine RBAs and acrylic bell caps. These are the bellcaps I use-
$6.15 Acrylic SUBTANK Mini Bell Cap (5-Pack) - translucent / 37.5mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Ok, mine are like that. So no oring where the chimney fits into the wick then on your either. Guess that is not the problem. So do you buy the bases alone? If so is there only the one oring that sits in the base?
Going to go try to wick it heavier.
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Ok, mine are like that. So no oring where the chimney fits into the wick then on your either. Guess that is not the problem. So do you buy the bases alone? If so is there only the one oring that sits in the base?
Going to go try to wick it heavier.
Thanks
I do have 3 complete STMs, but I did also buy single parts. The only o-ring is the base one.
 

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    Ok, mine are like that. So no oring where the chimney fits into the wick then on your either. Guess that is not the problem. So do you buy the bases alone? If so is there only the one oring that sits in the base?
    Going to go try to wick it heavier.
    Thanks
    The o-ring for the chimney, is in the RBA cap. (not removable tho.)
     
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    Alright you super helpful folks..I need HELP
    I think this was the thread that was tossing this stuff around
    Put together a Subtank Mini from parts from FT today
    $5.38 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK Mini Air Flow Control Valve Base - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    $5.59 Authentic KangerTech SUBTANK Mini RBA Plus Coil Head - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    $1.70 Acrylic SUBTANK Mini Bell Cap - translucent / 37.5mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    I put this together and it leaks like a sieve. Out the a/flow.
    I tried another bell cap, one of these
    $7.79 Acrylic SUBTANK Mini Bell Cap w/ POM 510 Drip Tip (5-Pack) 5-pack - 39.2mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
    and it still leaks.
    This is a new set up for me. I am unfamiliar with this atty although the Subtank mini that I used before came all assembled and no leaky.
    Am I missing a part? Please help

    It sounds like a wicking (not enough) issue.

    Using rayon, I cut it long enough (about 1/2" above the rim) to jam as much as I can into the sides (where the holes are) without covering the top of the coil.

    I just broke out a recently received FT bell cap, (which looks to be the same as yours), filled it up, put on an authentic Kanger base and RTA and am happily vaping with no leaks or wicking issues.
     

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    The o-ring for the chimney, is in the RBA cap. (not removable tho.)
    Yes, sorry. There is an o-ring in there.
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    WHat follows is personal opinion so take it with as many grains of salt as you think appropriate.

    When someone asks me about Vapocalypse prepping. I tell them the 3 most important things to make sure you have are:

    1. A nic supply
    2. A good mech with spare parts
    3. A good RDA/RTA with spare parts

    Everything else get what you want/

    Now I also teach them how to use a mech with a rebuildable safely.

    My philosophy is. Nic is the obvious choke point and will be very easy to shut down. Tanks with purchased coils? Well eventually you will run out and not be able to buy more. Mods with wiring/chips will eventually wear out or simply rot from disuse (yes I have had charger wires where the plastic on the wire rotted/dried and totally flaked off from disuse).

    These 3 things are the real insurance. Everything else is nicety.
     

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    WHat follows is personal opinion so take it with as many grains of salt as you think appropriate.

    When someone asks me about Vapocalypse prepping. I tell them the 3 most important things to make sure you have are:

    1. A nic supply
    2. A good mech with spare parts
    3. A good RDA/RTA with spare parts

    Everything else get what you want/

    Now I also teach them how to use a mech with a rebuildable safely.

    My philosophy is. Nic is the obvious choke point and will be very easy to shut down. Tanks with purchased coils? Well eventually you will run out and not be able to buy more. Mods with wiring/chips will eventually wear out or simply rot from disuse (yes I have had charger wires where the plastic on the wire rotted/dried and totally flaked off from disuse).

    These 3 things are the real insurance. Everything else is nicety.
    No. No mechs for me. Never owned one, never wanted to. Why should I buy it now? I am not terribly afraid of FDA, I just properly cautious.
    Only regulated devices for me. They are fun.
    And if things will go really bad, I can always make my own mech, with any 10-20A rated button switch.
    For those who do not subhom its really easy - to make a mech mod.
     

    Myrany

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    No. No mechs for me. Never owned one, never wanted to. Why should I buy it now? I am not terribly afraid of FDA, I just properly cautious.
    Only regulated devices for me. They are fun.
    And if things will go really bad, I can always make my own mech, with any 10-20A rated button switch.
    For those who do not subhom its really easy - to make a mech mod.
    Have you figured out how to make your own rebuildable tank or rda?

    The closest I have come is figuring out how to tear down a blu carto to make it an old style dripper. Not a very satisfactory one but it would work. Assume you can still get the blu carto to use.

    Some people are not all that handy with the tools to build their own.

    If you do not want a mech that is your choice. I still recommend everyone have at least one in their stash. If they never use it terrific. At least it is there if the worst happens.
     

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    Have you figured out how to make your own rebuildable tank or rda?

    The closest I have come is figuring out how to tear down a blu carto to make it an old style dripper. Not a very satisfactory one but it would work. Assume you can still get the blu carto to use.

    Some people are not all that handy with the tools to build their own.

    If you do not want a mech that is your choice. I still recommend everyone have at least one in their stash. If they never use it terrific. At least it is there if the worst happens.
    I agree, my first choice mech was a Reo, then I got several Nemesis and I have a couple GLV from years ago, picked up some kicks and short stops just incase too. I prefer regulated but I want to be prepared for doomsday.
     

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    WHat follows is personal opinion so take it with as many grains of salt as you think appropriate.

    When someone asks me about Vapocalypse prepping. I tell them the 3 most important things to make sure you have are:

    1. A nic supply
    2. A good mech with spare parts
    3. A good RDA/RTA with spare parts

    Everything else get what you want/

    Now I also teach them how to use a mech with a rebuildable safely.

    My philosophy is. Nic is the obvious choke point and will be very easy to shut down. Tanks with purchased coils? Well eventually you will run out and not be able to buy more. Mods with wiring/chips will eventually wear out or simply rot from disuse (yes I have had charger wires where the plastic on the wire rotted/dried and totally flaked off from disuse).

    These 3 things are the real insurance. Everything else is nicety.

    Good post, but many tootles do not understand unregulated mods, myself included. Case and point: I ordered 2 Aspire CF Mods because they were cheap, had replaceable batteries, and because I'm a fan of the lesser tootle Aspire products. I figured I could just screw my K1 tank with an adapter on that sucker and go. LOL.

    I'm not exactly ignorant about such things that require research, and I passed 2 electrical engineering classes in college. I think that the diversity of products and the lack of education for the buyers is abysmal, and one of the reasons that the vaping industry has ended up regulated. I purchased 2 CF Mods without any warning or recommendations about how to use them, what to use them with, or precautions about using them.

    Anyway, I hope I did better today with the Provari 2.5s and the Aspire Tritons with RTA kits.
     
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    WHat follows is personal opinion so take it with as many grains of salt as you think appropriate.

    When someone asks me about Vapocalypse prepping. I tell them the 3 most important things to make sure you have are:

    1. A nic supply
    2. A good mech with spare parts
    3. A good RDA/RTA with spare parts

    Everything else get what you want/

    Now I also teach them how to use a mech with a rebuildable safely.

    My philosophy is. Nic is the obvious choke point and will be very easy to shut down. Tanks with purchased coils? Well eventually you will run out and not be able to buy more. Mods with wiring/chips will eventually wear out or simply rot from disuse (yes I have had charger wires where the plastic on the wire rotted/dried and totally flaked off from disuse).

    These 3 things are the real insurance. Everything else is nicety.

    I totally agree with you Myrany :)

    I also advise to purchase only one of whatever anyone is purchasing for the vapocalypse and then try it out for a couple days if they've never tried it before themselves to make sure they do like it before putting it away. Even if you own it, if ya don't like the feel or don't like the switch you're not likely to use it for long even as a last resort. It doesn't have to be one's favorite devise, but you do have to be ok with it if you're ever going to use it. I've tried out some mechanicals that didn't feel good in my hand or the switch just didn't work comfortably for me that others really liked. I've also had RDA's and RTA's that just didn't work well for me that other's really liked. When it comes to our vaping gear, the phrase something is better then nothing, just doesn't seem to work out very well. ;)
     

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    Good post, but many tootles do not understand unregulated mods, myself included. Case and point: I ordered 2 Aspire CF Mods because they were cheap, had replaceable batteries, and because I'm a fan of the lesser tootle Aspire products. I figured I could just screw my K1 tank with an adapter on that sucker and go. LOL.

    I'm not exactly ignorant about such things that require research, and I passed 2 electrical engineering classes in college. I think that the diversity of products and the lack of education for the buyers is abysmal, and one of the reasons that the vaping industry has ended up regulated. I purchased 2 CF Mods without any warning or recommendations about how to use them, what to use them with, or precautions about using them.

    Anyway, I hope I did better today with the Provari 2.5 and the Aspire Triton with RTA kit.
    I have 3 Provaris, a 2, a 2.5 and a 3. I think you will really enjoy them. They are solid devices.

    The Triton I hear is a VERY nice tank. I have seen a build video on the rebuildable section and it really does not look too bad to do. When I was looking a rebuildable tanks for someone I was mentoring one of the reasons she settled on that tank was that you could reduce the airflow enough for it to work well for a tootle puffer.

    I strongly suggest that you at least try the tank up front while parts and other options are available. That way should it not work for you it can be replaced with something that does. If it does work for you then spare parts can still be purchased.

    If you would like some help learning to build safely shoot me a PM.
     

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    I totally agree with you Myrany :)

    I also advise to purchase only one of whatever anyone is purchasing for the vapocalypse and then try it out for a couple days if they've never tried it before themselves to make sure they do like it before putting it away. Even if you own it, if ya don't like the feel or don't like the switch you're not likely to use it for long even as a last resort. It doesn't have to be one's favorite devise, but you do have to be ok with it if you're ever going to use it. I've tried out some mechanicals that didn't feel good in my hand or the switch just didn't work comfortably for me that others really liked. I've also had RDA's and RTA's that just didn't work well for me that other's really liked. When it comes to our vaping gear, the phrase something is better then nothing, just doesn't seem to work out very well. ;)
    You are of course right. In mechs there is such a wide range that some work better for some people than others. I have a K100 in my stash that would be absolute last resort. It is a fabulous mech and well made but the button is so hard to push that I end up in pain after a very short time using it. It in fact is what sent me looking that ended with me using REOs.

    For me though if everything else failed I WOULD use that K100 even though it physically hurts just to stay off Cigs. I would hate it. I would vape less. I would do it though.
     
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