I hope it was not crap nic
I bought 3 liters of it. I am not sure I could convince my brain not to be afraid of 60-100mg/ml nic, it does create a lot of anxiety for me even though I know logically it should not.
On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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I hope it was not crap nic
I bought 3 liters of it. I am not sure I could convince my brain not to be afraid of 60-100mg/ml nic, it does create a lot of anxiety for me even though I know logically it should not.
Yes indeed.
Though that last line...
"I still maintain there may (or may not) be something to that."
I was more referring to the possibility of something along the lines of newer extraction methods vs say kerosene extraction, better refinement, oxidation vs filled with argon gas, etc.
Rather than just evolution.
Pretty sure on some level you get/got that. Though I expect some may not right away.
Tapatyped
Sorry to hear.I hope it was not crap nic
I am not sure I could convince my brain not to be afraid of 60-100mg/ml nic, it does create a lot of anxiety for me even though I know logically it should not.
It's tough (and often not adviseable) to simply overcome ones comfort level.
Tapatyped
Vaping 6% Pumpkin Velvet Max VG + 5% saline right nowIn my Nic storage 1 put everything in Brown bags and marked it 100 mg Nic-poison, just incase someone has to deal with it besides me. I also marked it not food, since it is in the freezer. It us double plastic bagged, plus aluminum foil then the brown bag
Oh has anyone used Nude nics flavorings? I was thinking of trying a few, any favorites?
Recommended Nude Nicotine Flavor %?
I'm not reordering Ooples & Banoonoos or Apple Pie a la Mode again.
I liked them at first but not over time.
I also tried and like NN Blueberry Mojito
Read back in that thread. Some that I tried were tank crackers.
I use glass tanks so not that they cracked but they swelled the o-rings on my Crown tanks.
I'm pretty sure I listed the offenders.
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Yes I do. I was commenting more on "Funny how our senses can over take our sensibility over our knowledge."`
Our sense of smell is not extraordinary compared to most of the planet's inhabitants but it is powerful and deeply rooted in our brains. I expect we have all had a smell transport us back across perhaps decades to another time and place with a vividness that no other sensory stimulation achieves.
I remember seeing something of an experiment on television some probably 15 yrs or more back.
They performed some type of scam on unsuspecting individuals.
Later, of course, they righted the situation and informed the individuals.
Though, what they found was that people were twice as likely to fall for it if the perpetrator was wearing a baby powder scent.
Said it was because baby powder invoked some sort of almost primal sense of security and comfort that took down their guard.
Related the phenomenon to their infancy where these feelings were first being learned and made mention of mothers care, diaper changes, etc.
It was oddly intriguing at the time.
Tapatyped
That makes sense.
I understand many retailers use scents hoping to keep people in their store and spending more.
FDA missed that trick because they and the deeming have a most malodorous scent.
Don't forget subliminals hidden in the music that say "Buy, buy, buy" as well as masked messages in the ads on the showcases.
Applied behavioral science=propaganda.
Try this just for kicks. Record the next big sporting event televised via cable
or satellite (in other words not off the air) then play it back frame by frame.
See anything you didn't b4?
Try this; Record Mr Soetoro's next speech.
Play it back backwards.
The mind is wonderful thing.
Obey.
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2016 Stock Pile update completed 
Thanks to the FDA
I've been stock piling since the first week I started vaping almost 6 years ago. Way back then it was a matter of making sure I would not return to smoking if the 2009 lawsuit didn't go our way. When the FDA lost the lawsuit back in 2011 the question in my mind has always been "when" they would issue a deeming order for ecigs never "if they would". My stash has always been my insurance against government interference in my right to vape. Its also made it possible to spend very little these past few years since retirement. Sure, some things will never get used, but I have no regrets for anything I've purchased along the way. Peace of mind was worth every penny.
Today my stash isn't just for my next 25 years but for my 18 yr old grandson who started smoking at 16 but was willing to switch to vaping instead of smoking. He's the reason I've greatly added to my stash these past few weeks. His future concerns me a lot. The only plus in all of this is he's learning a lot about our government and the importance of advocacy and fighting for something you believe strongly in.
I expect there to be an injunction issued before 8/8/16 putting the deeming order on hold while the court decides it's legality. If that happens then its business as usual until the court makes its final ruling which won't happen quickly. There will still be states laws to be fought against while we wait for the outcome of the lawsuits.
IF an injunction isn't granted it won't be business as usual for two more years. Most things won't change overnight, but there would be changes BEYOND what's in the deeming order. In most states shops will need tobacco licenses- not a big deal in some places but for other places not so easy to get. Vendors will need import licenses to import from China into the US- not hard to get, EXCEPT licenses aren't issued quickly so there could be months for some vendors with no new products coming into their stores from China while they wait for their import licenses. States that already having laws against internet sales/shipments of cigarettes will amend their laws to include all the newly deemed tobacco products. The fed government will want to amend the P.A.C.T. act to include the newly deemed tobacco products so they can't be shipped via USPS or UPS. And I think we can reasonably expect some confussion over both the P.A.C.T. act and the states laws almost immediately as there will be some zealots that will jump to the conclusion on 8/8/16 that those law immediately go into effect once our ecigs are deemed tobacco products. I would expect every state as they put together new budgets for the following year to be adding ecigs to their list of taxed items and those taxes will in most cases be very high.
Thanks to the FDA
I've been stock piling since the first week I started vaping almost 6 years ago. Way back then it was a matter of making sure I would not return to smoking if the 2009 lawsuit didn't go our way. When the FDA lost the lawsuit back in 2011 the question in my mind has always been "when" they would issue a deeming order for ecigs never "if they would". My stash has always been my insurance against government interference in my right to vape. Its also made it possible to spend very little these past few years since retirement. Sure, some things will never get used, but I have no regrets for anything I've purchased along the way. Peace of mind was worth every penny. Today my stash isn't just for my next 25 years but for my 18 yr old grandson who started smoking at 16
but was willing to switch to vaping instead of smoking. He's the reason I've greatly added to my stash these past few weeks. His future concerns me a lot. The only plus in all of this is he's learning a lot about our government and the importance of advocacy and fighting for something you believe strongly in. I expect there to be an injunction issued before 8/8/16 putting the deeming order on hold while the court decides it's legality. If that happens then its business as usual until the court makes its final ruling which won't happen quickly. There will still be states laws to be fought against while we wait for the outcome of the lawsuits.
IF an injunction isn't granted it won't be business as usual for two more years. Most things won't change overnight, but there would be changes BEYOND what's in the deeming order. In most states shops will need tobacco licenses- not a big deal in some places but for other places not so easy to get. Vendors will need import licenses to import from China into the US- not hard to get, EXCEPT licenses aren't issued quickly so there could be months for some vendors with no new products coming into their stores from China while they wait for their import licenses. States that already having laws against internet sales/shipments of cigarettes will amend their laws to include all the newly deemed tobacco products. The fed government will want to amend the P.A.C.T. act to include the newly deemed tobacco products so they can't be shipped via USPS or UPS. And I think we can reasonably expect some confussion over both the P.A.C.T. act and the states laws almost immediately as there will be some zealots that will jump to the conclusion on 8/8/16 that those law immediately go into effect once our ecigs are deemed tobacco products. I would expect every state as they put together new budgets for the following year to be adding ecigs to their list of taxed items and those taxes will in most cases be very high.
Svoe Mesto, the Mothership for Kayfuns is in Germany.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
We have German precision engineering too, of course. Angela Merkel has messed up the whole country. In hoping she doesn't mess up Vaping as well.
2016 Stock Pile update completed
Thanks to the FDA
Today my stash isn't just for my next 25 years but for my 18 yr old grandson who started smoking at 16
I expect there to be an injunction issued before 8/8/16 putting the deeming order on hold while the court decides it's legality. If that happens then its business as usual until the court makes its final ruling which won't happen quickly. There will still be states laws to be fought against while we wait for the outcome of the lawsuits.
IF an injunction isn't granted it won't be business as usual for two more years. Most things won't change overnight, but there would be changes BEYOND what's in the deeming order. In most states shops will need tobacco licenses- not a big deal in some places but for other places not so easy to get. Vendors will need import licenses to import from China into the US- not hard to get, EXCEPT licenses aren't issued quickly so there could be months for some vendors with no new products coming into their stores from China while they wait for their import licenses. States that already having laws against internet sales/shipments of cigarettes will amend their laws to include all the newly deemed tobacco products. The fed government will want to amend the P.A.C.T. act to include the newly deemed tobacco products so they can't be shipped via USPS or UPS. And I think we can reasonably expect some confussion over both the P.A.C.T. act and the states laws almost immediately as there will be some zealots that will jump to the conclusion on 8/8/16 that those law immediately go into effect once our ecigs are deemed tobacco products. I would expect every state as they put together new budgets for the following year to be adding ecigs to their list of taxed items and those taxes will in most cases be very high.
The younger geneestion will groei up snd NEVER know the Ameria we knew before the year 2000.
The Sheeple are watching America abd liberty be taken from them day by day.
Politically correctness has taken most of the first ammendment from us.
With Christiana being forced to do Gay wedfings is taking more of the first ammendment. The right of following out choice of religion, and. Right of conscience.
We are 1 supreme court justice from losing the right to keep and bear arms.
We have already had the 10th ammendment shredddf. How long before we lose the 4th, 5th, and 6th ammendments are desyroyed.
When will the sheeple stand abd say NO MORE.
I WISH I WAS 30 YEARS OLDER THAN I AM !
On ordering from Fasttech, I know its' free shipping but how long does it take to arrive? And for a nominal fee(under $1) it says that is an option? Which to choose.Yes it did!
Sorry never ordered from them before.
I strongly advise that you choose the under $1 fee for a purchase under $20. Gives you peace of mind.On ordering from Fasttech, I know its' free shipping but how long does it take to arrive? And for a nominal fee(under $1) it says that is an option? Which to choose.
Sorry never ordered from them before.
^^^ what 3mg said. It is a minor charge for peace of mind and it WILL arrive faster. You will also get tracking so you know where it is.
Another one with a "last" FastTech cart filled today. I feel like I'm leaving a sinking ship and trying to decide what to take.
I think I've vaped more since the Deeming Regs came out than I have since I first started. Going through liquid like crazy. Good thing I DIY.
I think I've vaped more since the Deeming Regs came out than I have since I first started. Going through liquid like crazy. Good thing I DIY.
Thanks I did that. But my purchase was well over a $1. I looked at everything before I put the majority of my order in the cart because the price never show up again altho the box was checked for the item along with free shipping.
But I guess I waited too long for the discount code because it would not take it. When they said all day May 30, it must mean their time, not ours
but I will get over it.Thanks again for the replys
I was out shopping for a mod yesterday and walked into a local B&M. Egads they had a WALL of juice bottles!
After finding they did not have the model I was looking for the worker asked if I knew about their juice prices. I told him "I bet you want way more than $1 an ounce". He was rather shocked at that value and asked where I got it for THAT price. I mentioned that I DIY (actually at ~$0.61 and ounce but who is counting) by purchasing VG on Amazon and 100mg VG nicotine base at Nude Nicotine.
I did not ask if they were going to "fire sale" the wall of inventory or attempt to relabel it for after 8/8/16. It was rather obvious that the kid was clueless about DIY and the doom that is coming.
After finding they did not have the model I was looking for the worker asked if I knew about their juice prices. I told him "I bet you want way more than $1 an ounce". He was rather shocked at that value and asked where I got it for THAT price. I mentioned that I DIY (actually at ~$0.61 and ounce but who is counting) by purchasing VG on Amazon and 100mg VG nicotine base at Nude Nicotine.
I did not ask if they were going to "fire sale" the wall of inventory or attempt to relabel it for after 8/8/16. It was rather obvious that the kid was clueless about DIY and the doom that is coming.
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I just found some 808 White Cloud cig a like batts, they are years old not used for years and they still work except one and one charger is not working, found some old filled White Cloud cartos too and they are still fine. I am amazed this stuff is still usable just sitting in a drawer, but good to know for usable stash
Thanks I did that. But my purchase was well over a $1. I looked at everything before I put the majority of my order in the cart because the price never show up again altho the box was checked for the item along with free shipping.
But I guess I waited too long for the discount code because it would not take it. When they said all day May 30, it must mean their time, not ours
Thanks again for the replys
I am sad the code did not work for you
maybe you entered it incorrectly, I just finished up my purchase and the code worked fine.- Status
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