On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[Yiana]

No..he still dead..so far but one never knows now-a-days.

Nelson Mandela was reported as having died in prison in 1974 or 75..
I heard it on the radio, watched it on the TV news.

Then Nelson was released from prison in 1990
and was elected president of S.Africa in 1994
Here he is with Fidel at his inauguration
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But he died again in 2013.
If you wanna freak yourself out Google "mandela effect"
Have phun,
Hazy

I was born in 75 so I don't remember that. I had sworn I had a memory of him dying in the 80s. I don't kmow if you know who Art Bell is but he was talking about it too some years ago.

I'll google the Nelson Mandela effect to see what's up.

Did you throw some brown sugar in there?

Hell yes!

 

[HazyShades]

Reading Stephen King's 11/22/63 now. That's how that happened.
In 10 years we'll sort of remember that he died in 2013 but he'll be alive again.
And so it goes...

I see you're hip to reality...or lack thereof

 

[HazyShades]

I was born in 75 so I don't remember that. I had sworn I had a memory of him dying in the 80s. I don't kmow if you know who Art Bell is but he was talking about it too some years ago.

I'll google the Nelson Mandela effect to see what's up.



Hell yes!

You of course are going to ask me over for dinner sometime...black beans...
ham and beans with brown sugar...oh baby..got the munchies already.

Yea, I used to listen to Art religiously until his first Filipina wife died and he moved back to the islands and found another Filipina..
I don't like George...too much of a money guy while claiming to be a "Light Worker"
so I don't do Coast to Coast anymore unless I'm really bored.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

BUT nobody HAS to submit applications until the 2 years are up - and why would ANYONE submit their app early? So realistically, I think it's fair to say 2-3 years. They get 3 years if they aren't rejected earlier than the final decision date - which deadline, if they're inundated with apps, the FDA probably can't even meet themselves!

Umm several things also happen at the end of this year into the first couple of months of next year...

 

[YoursTruli]

Never got hooked on the Provaris. Obviously they must be good mods as they have a devote following. I went the Vamo route back in the day, then I became an Evolv fanboy and have never looked back.

After buying a few provari mini 2.5 off the classies years ago I was hooked on the quality, size, style and ease of use, buying a bunch more when blems came on sale as of late was a given for me I think you should take the provari leap

BUT nobody HAS to submit applications until the 2 years are up - and why would ANYONE submit their app early? So realistically, I think it's fair to say 2-3 years. They get 3 years if they aren't rejected earlier than the final decision date - which deadline, if they're inundated with apps, the FDA probably can't even meet themselves!

I do not see a lot of smaller vape shops surviving that long.
Credit card companies are already starting to drop vape shops as customers.
If the FDA does not continue expanding the rules/regulations during that time (which they have made every indication they will do so) the states are going to pick up that slack with rules/regulations and taxes of their own, it has already started in several states that ban internet sales, no non-face to face sales, no buying out of state eliquid and new laws on the book already to ban flavors and heavily tax everything vape related.
Also, now the everything vape is a tobacco product every shop will have to apply to get a State permit/license to sell tobacco products even if they do not make their own eliquid, and for those that do they will be manufacturers and also have to apply for permits/license at both the Federal and State levels. I think a lot of businesses will not be granted these permits/license for sales and/or manufacturing... for a lot of smaller shops making and selling their own eliquid pays the rent.
And... there are different FDA regulations businesses have to comply with during this 2 year period too.

I use Amber glass bottles and polycone caps for my nic storage. After bottling and labeling, I seal them in vacuum sealer bags (foodsaver).

I have been canning for 30+ years. I would not feel safe using the normal canning lids. But, there is an alternative. There are "Tattler" lids. They are reusable BPA free plastic lids. (They are used in canning like the metal lids- they seal in water bath or pressure canning- of course you would not can nic juice lol) You use them with a ring.

Tattler Lids

Here are the regular screw on plastic lids:
Regular Mouth Plastic Lids

Skip the (Regular Mouth) Plastic lids, they do not seal in liquid well and leak like crazy.

 

[mikepetro]

....... I think you should take the provari leap .......

Nothing against Provari....... at all ....... BUT.......
You've seen me around enough to know better than that.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Provari's are nice but only their box mod interests me. And I can buy 10 cheap box mods that will serve me just as well. Maybe for not as long but I would have 10 of them....

 

[chanelvaps]

Ringgold!!! The Ringgold Opry!! Just saw your address - I lived in chat for awhile (basically my band was on an extended, verrrry sloooow nationwide tour for a few years, and we lived in chat for 6 months playing residency gigs and radio shows). LOVED the Opry!

hahaha I just noticed Ringgold too. I lived in FT Ogle for awhile before I came towards Atlanta way

 

[dcdozer]

I'm thinking, from the posts and NN site, that the NN V2 needs a SHARP to penetrate (that it's the standard self-healing rubber-stopper type); whereas the v3 can use a blunt-tip. I might be wrong tho!!

I'm brand new to DIY, but I chose NN Armor V2 and you don't need to use anything but the syringe itself (no tip needed). It's really easy. Since it's the first nic base I bought, I'm kinda spoiled. I don't have to break down nic base into smaller bottles, and I can easily and safely extract exactly what I need when I need it. Can't bring myself to try anything else.

As far as stocking up goes, I've at least begun to acquire all the things that are GRAN (Generally Recognized as Necessary) for stockpiling, except I haven't gotten a mech mod (or three) yet. Has anybody tried the Yiloong Fogbox that is for sale on sweet-vapes.com? I don't really want to spend much as I'm in a comfortable zone with all of the safeguards with electronic mods.

 

[YoursTruli]

Nothing against Provari....... at all ....... BUT.......
You've seen me around enough to know better than that.

Does this mean I should remove the bumper sticker from your car?

 

[crxess]

We caution all to move forward with patience until all the exact
regulations are clarified.

Well this kills their intention to comply. Since enactment of CTP there has been NO Clarification of Qualification.

 

[mikepetro]

Does this mean I should remove the bumper sticker from your car?

If the adhesive lasts as long that 18500 would last me, it will fall off soon enough on its own....

 

[Paramaniac413]

I'm brand new to DIY, but I chose NN Armor V2 and you don't need to use anything but the syringe itself (no tip needed). It's really easy. Since it's the first nic base I bought, I'm kinda spoiled. I don't have to break down nic base into smaller bottles, and I can easily and safely extract exactly what I need when I need it. Can't bring myself to try anything else.

As far as stocking up goes, I've at least begun to acquire all the things that are GRAN (Generally Recognized as Necessary) for stockpiling, except I haven't gotten a mech mod (or three) yet. Has anybody tried the Yiloong Fogbox that is for sale on sweet-vapes.com? I don't really want to spend much as I'm in a comfortable zone with all of the safeguards with electronic mods.

If you don't mind a tube mod, FT has the infected mod clones. I have one as well as an authentic. It's a good clone.


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[YoursTruli]

If the adhesive lasts as long that 18500 would last me, it will fall off soon enough on its own....

OK that made me LOL! OMG perfect!

 

[Two_Bears]

BUT nobody HAS to submit applications until the 2 years are up - and why would ANYONE submit their app early? So realistically, I think it's fair to say 2-3 years. They get 3 years if they aren't rejected earlier than the final decision date - which deadline, if they're inundated with apps, the FDA probably can't even meet themselves!

And you think power maf Bureaucrats are going to follow the law. Havent you heard the Constitusion is a living breathing document?

 

[Two_Bears]

Maybe someone would be so kind as to clear up something for me. When the August deadline hits, will we or won't we be able to order stuff online?

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Depends on state you live in.

 

[dcdozer]

If you don't mind a tube mod, FT has the infected mod clones. I have one as well as an authentic. It's a good clone.


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I don't really have preferences related to mech mods. Just cheap, but solid I guess. I don't plan on using it except in an absolute worst case zombie vapocolypse scenario.

I've never ordered from FT - I'm way too impatient for that. Will take a look though. Thanks!

 

[Paramaniac413]

I don't really have preferences related to mech mods. Just cheap, but solid I guess. I don't plan on using it except in an absolute worst case zombie vapocolypse scenario.

I've never ordered from FT - I'm way too impatient for that. Will take a look though. Thanks!

I placed a FT order last night and it said it shipped today. The last order I got in like 2 weeks. They've been pretty good for me so far (knock on imitation wood vaneere or however you spell it lol). Can't go too wrong with an all metal tube with magnet switches. The black and brass one I ordered has the adjustable 510 as well as an adjustment for battery rattle. And at $18 and change, I couldn't pass it up (especially since the authentic cost me ~$90. It's a little shorter than the authentic, but good and sturdy.


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[Haylon357]

Depends on state you live in.

Tennessee. So far they haven't even cocked an eyebrow at vaping. Of course Tennessee is about 10 years behind everyone else.

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[Two_Bears]

I have a freakshow mini too. I also have a troll (too airy for me tho), and a quad. Forgot the name at the moment.

Freakshow Mini is a great flavor Atty.