On the news - Dictatorships ban ecigarettes, house members found something to badger

[Aviz]

If you think about it, the less freedom - the less vaping. examples: Egypt and Singapore, two very different dictatorships, ban e-Cigs. Israel and US, democracies, allow it, and China, an oligarchy, prefers its citizens to keep buying poison rather than ecigs.

Nicotine in moderate use is a medicine (Froid, Einstein, my professors - all nic'd, research shows it protects neural cells (see links), and its sometimes the only thing preventing ppl from killing themselves) , yet the governments allow criminal corporations to bind it to a poisonous delivery system because its easy cheap and taxable.

This is a water shed moment for all free man and woman. Thank god for free press, its getting harder to get away with in free countries. God Bless the USA.

Shoutout to Leonardo DeCaprio : We appreciate your stance against PC and hypocrisy, you got a new fan.
(sorry Dreyfus I still think you suck ).

DeCaprio vaping:

Senators slam Golden Globes for 'glamorizing' e-cigarette smoking | Mail Online


vaping in China:

Vaping a slow burner in China, world's maker of e-cigarettes | Reuters


NIH Research which found Nicotine as a therapeutic substance ("the anti-inflammatory mechanism of nicotine could have a major therapeutic implication in the preventive treatment of PD")

Neuroprotective effect of nicotine on dopamin... [Eur J Neurosci. 2007] - PubMed - NCBI

And more research on the protective effects of Nicotine:
Mechanisms of Neuroprotective Effects of Nicotine and Acetylcholinesterase Inhibitors: Role of

Disclaimer:
Overdose of nicotine, whe ther by touch (nicotine goes through the skin), or by ingestion (lets say someone swallows a few ml of eliquid) CAN KILL you, and poses a life threatning danger to small children.
As with everything dosage is the key so don't go get nic'd up - ending in the ER, drink and vape responsibly and in moderation.

 

[Jarbs]

you'd think celebrities could afford better PVs

 

[Recycled Roadkill]

you'd think celebrities could afford better PVs

I've gotta agree with that. My thought while watching the Golden Globes was where's the .....ing about vaping inside? I pointed out to the wife that I'd spotted one gal in the audience vaping.

I've never really given a darn about celebraties hawking anything but I do tend to appreciate it when I see them vaping publicly.

 

[Aviz]

Lol I know I noticed that as well. Had to make myself ignore it to stay on the subject

you'd think celebrities could afford better PVs

 

[Aviz]

.....ing the right definition for what they do. But the bright side is that Leatherman, CNN anchors and many "Tested" ecigaretts in the studio. they did not state support for fear of the PC police, but made a statement by their actions instead.
Believe me I am no fan boy and never a damn damn about any celeb, but this is the game of public opinion and many look up to these guys foe some reason.

I've gotta agree with that. My thought while watching the Golden Globes was where's the .....ing about vaping inside? I pointed out to the wife that I'd spotted one gal in the audience vaping.

I've never really given a darn about celebraties hawking anything but I do tend to appreciate it when I see them vaping publicly.

 

[Jarbs]

all kidding aside, celebrity endorsements of any type is a win for us. well, maybe not jenny mccarthy.

 

[Coelli]

I was wondering how much she got paid to so prominently display it.

 

[Ken_A]

I want to see celebs vaping something a bit more real than an e-cig. we need to encourage them to get a better PV

 

[Aviz]

I don't know Ken, I think the e-cig is a big win. it takes balls to do it, their careers depend on it - its a gamble on their behalf.

I want to see celebs vaping something a bit more real than an e-cig. we need to encourage them to get a better PV

 

[Aviz]

Also - Ifyou want to SHUT the mouth of any idiotic pseudointellectual ignorant "Person" who objects to eCigaretts on health basis, show them this video.
This is a testimony by Dr. David Baron, who's identity I verified.
Electronic Cigarette - Dr. David Baron, M.D. - PART 1/2 - YouTube

 

[Don Robertson]

When election time comes around VOTE AGAINST these political prostitutes: The letter was co-signed by four Democratic senators- .... Durbin from Illinois, Richard Blumenthal from Connecticut, Ed Markey from Massachusetts and Sherrod Brown from Ohio.

Sticking there collective noses into that which they know nothing about; it's the Democratic way - PEOPLE CONTROL. They spy on us and then lie and say, "Oh no -it's unacceptable" and fools believe them and come election time vote 'em right back in office. Until people wake up this garbage will continue to spew forth from the same garbage-producers who have screwed up everything else.

How's that Affordable Care Act workin' for ya folks? Totally screwed up and given the chance they'll screw up life saving devices in favor of contributions from those who benefit the most; their pals in big business who "contributed them into office"!

Senile Old Man Don

 

[meanckz]

you'd think celebrities could afford better PVs

they do, but it's easier and lighter to carry around the smaller cig-a-likes or ego styled ones

 

[Aviz]

I bet that's the case. they have entourages to make sure they get the best (god I miss that series...)

they do, but it's easier and lighter to carry around the smaller cig-a-likes or ego styled ones

 

[Aviz]

20 prominent scientists wrote to the EU telling them the regulations are basically based on lies (one of the scientists even wrote the paper upon which the EU "based" its claims)
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24924-science-wrong-in-eus-proposed-ecigarette-law.html

 

[Aviz]

House of Cards season 2: Francis (main character) vapes !!! When asked by his wife why do you still smoke he replied "it's vapor... Addiction without the consequences..." then they vaped together
We are going mainstream (like it or not...)

 

[EvilZoe]

I highly doubt celebrities have the time to be surfing the internet researching what all gear is out there for vaping. They likely only get what they're introduced to.

If I weren't constantly plugged into the internet I doubt I'd know much about what's out there, either. I didn't even realize it was a "thing" until a neighbor popped up with one.

 

[Kim B.]

I think that most celebs' choice of vaping equipment has more to do with e-cigarette manufacturers giving these to celebs for free advertising. After all, if Leo's tootin' that brand then it must be cool, right?..... Bottom line, if celebs can help make vaping more acceptable to the public, regardless of how primitive more experienced vapers think their equipment is, that's a good thing in my book.

I agree with you EvilZoe, if not for me stumbling upon ECF, I would have no idea of the array of vaping equipment that's available. Shoot, when I first started vaping I didn't even know that you could buy blank cartomizers and e liquid to fill them with to use with those cig a like batteries!

 

[Bunnykiller]

just read the blurb on the Senators writing letters to downplay Vaping on TV... wonder when the are going to prohibit old films ( CasaBlanca etc) from being shown on TV due to smoking....

 

[bosun]

just read the blurb on the Senators writing letters to downplay Vaping on TV... wonder when the are going to prohibit old films ( CasaBlanca etc) from being shown on TV due to smoking....

Just have to give an "R" rating to films that do not toe the party line! Amount of money lost to a film maker between a PG-13 (excessive violence/words/brief nudity/non-tobacco drug use) versus an R rating (brief use of a 'tobacco' product) is probably quite a bit.
That and they'll excise/blur scenes with tobacco use in them. When is the last time you saw a pic of Churchill with a cigar or Santa Claus with a pipe?

 

[Aviz]

I don't think they have anything but time, not having any of the daily responsibilities we mortals have (cleaning, cooking, child care, 9-5 jobs ...).
I think they keep a low profile because their income depends on their reputation.

I highly doubt celebrities have the time to be surfing the internet researching what all gear is out there for vaping. They likely only get what they're introduced to.

If I weren't constantly plugged into the internet I doubt I'd know much about what's out there, either. I didn't even realize it was a "thing" until a neighbor popped up with one.