One last thing keeping me from quitting...taboo incoming

[drysprocket]

I often feel like a bit of a secret smoker on here. I went from a pack a day, down to 1-2 cigs a day in the last many months thanks to so many of you. And since it seems like quitting is the trend tonight, I've decided to reach out and see if anyone can help me finish this off. I've already quit in my head- I now truly do hate smoking. The smell, how I feel afterward; all of it. So why do I still have this 1-2 a day....well um.

If I quit smoking, I'm not sure I will ever {moderated} again. Yes, I'm going there. I have now turned into someone who ONLY smokes because I need to help nature do it's business. What a twisted fate. I keep putting off addressing this....because again, in my head, I have quit. But this is becoming really lame, if nothing else.

I'm hoping there are some people who've lived this, and can give some tips. I realize more fiber and coffee will help, but I'm just not sure what else to do. There seems to be something psychological going on here. A bit of a pavlovian response even. Note, the thread icon was chosen carefully.

 

[Tortus]

Prune juice helps. Or maybe your doctor can prescribe something.

It almost sounds like an excuse not to quit. I had no problems going after I quit a couple months ago.

 

[V8inDamma]

Hello Dry

Maybe this group may be able to help you not feel like your alone.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/519384-still-smoking-support-chat-thread.html

Pop in and chat with them. Keep up the good work. Count the cigarettes not smoked that's the most important ones.

 

[The Ocelot]

Classical conditioning

 

[CMD-Ky]

What time of day do you smoke? Is it always the same time? What else is going on at that time? Who is there? There is a point to the questions.

 

[danca90]

1-2 a day is fantastic. Sadly, it does come down to wanting to quit. Maybe voop with some strong nic juice? Or, any time you feel the need to have a BM (also, 1-2 times a day, Fantastic!) go to a public place where you can't smoke.
At the end of the day, no worries. You went from 20 to 2.

 

[BOZG]

At the risk of being intrusive, how long have you gone without a BM after not smoking?

Our natural rhythms vary greatly from 3-4 BMs per day to 2-3 times per week or even more or less. Just because you don't have a BM every day when you're off the cigarettes doesn't mean there's something wrong.

 

[Maiar]

When I started vaping I didn't realise until I came on here to lurk how dehydrating it can be. I upped my fluid intake and the BM problem kinda sorted itself out after awhile. But I definitely know what you're talking about. There's also over the counter stuff you can pick up at any drug store like docusate sodium that works wonders in getting things moving.

And are there really people who have 3-4 a day? I can't even imagine going that often. That sounds terribly chafing and exhausting. lol.

 

[beckdg]

And to think vooping used to be taboo enough that threads here have been closed because of it.

Sorry, OP. I can't help much here. My experience is quite the opposite.

Tapatyped

 

[smokinGAVIN]

I had the same problem when I started vaping. An extra cup of coffee did the trick for me. I would take the negative effects of caffeine over cancer causing cigarettes any day.

 

[bman1977]

I do some Yoga positions while on the bowl or 25 jumping jacks before I wanna go. Seems to shake things up.

 

[BOZG]

When I started vaping I didn't realise until I came on here to lurk how dehydrating it can be. I upped my fluid intake and the BM problem kinda sorted itself out after awhile. But I definitely know what you're talking about. There's also over the counter stuff you can pick up at any drug store like docusate sodium that works wonders in getting things moving.

And are there really people who have 3-4 a day? I can't even imagine going that often. That sounds terribly chafing and exhausting. lol.

Yes. And it is.

 

[Robino1]

Moved to Health, Safety and Vaping from General Vaping discussion.

 

[drysprocket]

What time of day do you smoke? Is it always the same time? What else is going on at that time? Who is there? There is a point to the questions.

The primary time is in the morning, with my cup of coffee. I've done the combination for years, and vaping just isn't quite the same. It's always alone, and semi near the same time each day. (the other time is usually at night, but completely varies. The morning is the real routine one.) I work from home, so I go outside when work slows down and I can have my coffee/cig combo. Interested to see how the specifics tie together, thanks!

1-2 a day is fantastic. Sadly, it does come down to wanting to quit. Maybe voop with some strong nic juice? Or, any time you feel the need to have a BM (also, 1-2 times a day, Fantastic!) go to a public place where you can't smoke.
At the end of the day, no worries. You went from 20 to 2.

Stronger nic juice...hmm, haven't considered that. Thanks for the encouragement!

At the risk of being intrusive, how long have you gone without a BM after not smoking?

Our natural rhythms vary greatly from 3-4 BMs per day to 2-3 times per week or even more or less. Just because you don't have a BM every day when you're off the cigarettes doesn't mean there's something wrong.

So that's the thing, I haven't really tried to have one without smoking....they are sort of tied together. I hadn't really realized how much so until I cut down to 1-2 a day, and it's only in this last month or so that I realized it. So....I guess I haven't tested it, but maybe that's the first step. Good point about it varying, I just hate feeling bloated.

 

[BlueCanary]

The primary time is in the morning, with my cup of coffee. I've done the combination for years, and vaping just isn't quite the same. It's always alone, and semi near the same time each day. (the other time is usually at night, but completely varies. The morning is the real routine one.) I work from home, so I go outside when work slows down and I can have my coffee/cig combo. Interested to see how the specifics tie together, thanks!



Stronger nic juice...hmm, haven't considered that. Thanks for the encouragement!




So that's the thing, I haven't really tried to have one without smoking....they are sort of tied together. I hadn't really realized how much so until I cut down to 1-2 a day, and it's only in this last month or so that I realized it. So....I guess I haven't tested it, but maybe that's the first step. Good point about it varying, I just hate feeling bloated.

Just…try it without a cig. Just for a couple of days if you can, just to see. I was worried about the same thing…because reasons…but in reality, there was NO discernible change to how my, um, plumbing functioned when I replaced the morning coffee/cig combo with coffee and vape. If anything, worrying about it might cause you more problem than anything, so try not to stress out about it, just act like that vape with your coffee is your morning cig and do exactly what you'd do during and after. Worst case scenario, you actually do have to have that morning cig to get things moving, and if so 2 is better than 20. But I really think you'll be OK. Good luck.

 

[Rossum]

I was VERY regular when I was smoking. That first cup of coffee and cigarette in the morning always got things moving. I definitely got constipated for a while after I quit. I think it was worst 2-3 weeks in, to the point where I was debating having a cig every once in a while, but never actually did. There's no doubt it takes a while for your body to adjust. Certain foods help. Now more than a year after quitting, I still eat some prunes just about every day.

 

[four2109]

LOL, This thread is priceless!
I worked in corrections years ago and recall an inmate who,it was reported to me did not smoke, ordering cigarettes. This was a black market issue. When I asked him about it he claimed he needed one in the AM to have a BM. I was in my early 20's and had never made that connection. What can say, he taught me something, a cup of coffee and a cigarette.... I'd been doing it all along but didn't know. So there is a connection.

That said, I had the opposite bodily response when I started vaping in '09. The common symptoms then were bleeding gums and loose stools. Can we say stool Robin?? LOL Note that this was also before VG, and e-liquids were mostly PG based. VG was just coming on the scene for it's vapor producing properties.

I do wonder when/if there is any information compiled on the physical effects on vaping, if it will be found that PG with all of it's highly praised here, anti-bacterial properties, actually disrupts the now highly researched gut bacteria. The gut microbiome, or gut flora. There is a brain-gut connection.

OK, so take that a step further... PG is in almost every product in your house not to mention pharmaceuticals... salad dressing, mouthwash, eye drops, dog food... What if it does disrupt the gut microbiome in out bodies?

That's all just food for thought. I have more on my mind, but I hate really long posts.

 

[four2109]

I wish I could have 1-2 analogs a day! If I buy a pack, I smoke a pack. I always wished they were sold in packs of 2 or 3. Apparently there is a state law that requires that they be sold in packs of 20!! I guess we know who was behind that......

 

[alopezg1]

hey man ... you've done really fantastically getting down to 1 or 2 a day ..... I would say , and this isn't anything new, that the reason you can't quit those two
is that you are addicted to the tobacco plant , as a whole , rather than just nicotine . You won't get any of the minor alkaloids from vaping , unless you use
WTA liquid .You are probably smoking just enough to stop yourself going into withdrawal from these alkaloids. There are several things you can do ... 1 stop smoking and just tough it out for a while and eventually the withdrawal will subside 2 get some WTA juice 3 get some snus or 4 get both .... tobacco is an excellent laxative and stopping its use nearly always results in some constipation , for me anyway , and lots of other people it would seem. If you popped a snus in first thing in the morning
the poop would soon be flowing again ..... getting more fibre in your diet , and prune juice are tried and tested methods .... also coffee seems to work a treat , coffe and snus and you'd be in business

 

[Frenchfry1942]

There seems to be a lot of suggestions that are worthwhile, if actually done. The mental attitude is also very important. Let us know what you have accomplished.