One Week of Dual Use

[SteveS45]

Welcome @tgs3 and I hope you enjoy your stay!

Dual use did not work for me as I said and thought I was cutting down but when I finally realized I was just getting more nicotine daily I decided to just quit cold turkey. Was not easy and was no fun but I did it and it worked for me. Celebrating 3 years since the day I said ENOUGH and NO MORE. Good luck to you

 

[redeuce]

I think it's important to keep it simple. I've seen many threads on here in which a poster is first asking how to get started in vaping, then a week later is frustrated because they are having trouble with adjustments on their GX350 and can't figure it out. Lol.
You don't need a pico and nautilus 2 to be successful.
There are several reasonably priced mtl devices with cheap coils above 1 ohm with an internal battery that will replicate smoking. In my opinion, a newbie should stick with those devices in the first months of transition. Something with just a fire button. Worry about flavors of e liquid, transition from cig to vape, proper nicotine strength, etc first. There are so many variables just in the basics, I think it's too early to introduce volts, wattage, and tc.
Just e liquids alone is daunting. For example, my wife just discovered that she prefers unflavored liquid to any flavor.

 

[QcVaper]

@redeuce No one needs to overcomplicate things when they first start. I for one am a tech geek person so anything tech related or even electrical i can mostly understand easily but that's far from being everyone,which is why there's something out there for anyone and everyone which to me makes the vaping world incredibly thoughtfull. I'm mostly just making suggestions when people want something better or something else than a simple all in one solution (most of these don't last very long anyway tbh). To each their own after all and i love every single one of y'all no matter what you vape

 

[suprtrkr]

I dual used for a while. I think almost everybody does. Nothing to worry about. The 20 sticks a day you've already cut is a major victory; worth doing even if you never make any more progress. I started so long ago there were no good regulated mods for me to move into. I had to go straight to mechanicals, a thing I do not recommend to you. I think you will probably be well served by a Nautilus tank and any small mod that can make up to at least 50 watts; of which latter there are dozens to chose among and I should let others make recommendations as this is not my long suit. Another option would be to get something like a Kanger Sub/Top box kit. A bit more power and a more flexible tank, which will allow you more options as you progress. Welcome to the board, and good luck.

 

[Mike McVape]

Welcome to the forum. Congrats on cutting back and good luck getting rid of stinkies for good.

While some dual use I was not one of them. After 48 years smoking I wanted and needed to get of cigs badly. Smoked my last cancer stick 2pm June 16th before stepping into a local vape shop on a mission. I believe the strong desire to quit was a big part of why I worked through the early challenges without lighting up, even though still had 7 unopened packs of cigs from my last carton.

 

[redeuce]

Welcome to the forum. Congrats on cutting back and good luck getting rid of stinkies for good.

While some dual use I was not one of them. After 48 years smoking I wanted and needed to get of cigs badly. Smoked my last cancer stick 2pm June 16th before stepping into a local vape shop on a mission. I believe the strong desire to quit was a big part of why I worked through the early challenges without lighting up, even though still had 7 unopened packs of cigs from my last carton.

I give you kudos for going off without dual use. Back in the day I drank too much. Coors beer. For various reasons, I decided enough was enough and quit. That was 17 years ago. That was a walk in the park compared to stopping smoking.

 

[Mike McVape]

I give you kudos for going off without dual use. Back in the day I drank too much. Coors beer. For various reasons, I decided enough was enough and quit. That was 17 years ago. That was a walk in the park compared to stopping smoking.

Oh I understand for sure. Over 36 years Clean recovering addict here and no question quitting cigarettes no walk in the park, harder than getting off any dope and alcohol.

 

[stols001]

Yup. ^^^^^ No questions from me, either. Since I can't go back in time and be a never-smoker, I am SO glad vaping is around....

Anna

 

[QcVaper]

Oh I understand for sure. Over 36 years Clean recovering addict here and no question quitting cigarettes no walk in the park, harder than getting off any dope and alcohol.

Can't lie i stopped smoking but i still take the (other) stuff,i'm waiting to see if our dear prime minister will actually go through and make it legal,that way i'd be able to at least vape it instead. Though it dosen't affect me nearly as bad as smoking usually did, but that's just me i'm a "recreational" user and do it because i enjoy it just like vaping But darn i wish i could have an (Other Stuff) vaporiser right about now -.-

 

[go_player]

The V2 was my very first device. I didn't like it much, and wasn't very successful with it. That was a long time ago though, and they might have improved it since then. If you're looking for something simple I do keep hearing pretty good things abut the Juul. It uses nic salts, which are pretty smooth, so they can use a pretty high concentration of nic. I guess one downside is that it looks to me as if the pods are kind of expensive. You could refill them, but that would detract from the simplicity.

As for amounts of nic- I think it's pretty difficult to compare amounts of juice used to cigarettes smoked. But I also am not sure it matters too much to be able to make that comparison. What I'd suggest is, at least at first, going right up to the point where you start to suffer slightly unpleasant effects from nic, and then backing off just a bit. There's a lot you're likely going to miss about cigarettes at first, so I think it makes sense to make sure that you're at least getting enough nicotine to keep that from being one of them. I don't think there's anything wrong with getting _more_ nicotine from vaping than you did smoking, for a while, if that's what it takes to keep you from smoking.

 

[djsvapour]

I guess we can pretend V2 make good products at a fair price or accept reality.
That's all there is to say (almost). I wasted $800 on outdated tech that made out they were the kings of e-cigs, then I woke up and smelt the coffee. It's one thing to buy overpriced junk and quit smoking. It's another to still be smoking despite effort and expenditure.
You know what to do. Admit you've been sold a lemon and start again. Don't fall for the marketing nonsense again.
Sorry, but it's true. Other brands are even worse by the way. That's why a $29 e-cig sold for $119 was the top seller of 2014. I despair.
Most of the industry are pirates. Avoid the pirates to enjoy success.

 

[tgs3]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful and inspiring replies. I have a v2 ex and a Juul. For whatever reason, I am using the v2 more than the Juul. I still don't understand a lot of the lingo you guys use, 'mod', 'tank', 'mtl' etc., This is all new to me, and reducing by 20 analogs per day for a week is something I am happy about. I am on vacation so I have a lot of time on my hands. I should be able to reduce more when I am back to work.

 

[redeuce]

You're doing great. MTL is mouth to lung, which is how smokers inhale a cig. DTL is direct to lung, which is how a person inhales a joint. Like sucking a milk shake through a straw.

 

[Hawise]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful and inspiring replies. I have a v2 ex and a Juul. For whatever reason, I am using the v2 more than the Juul. I still don't understand a lot of the lingo you guys use, 'mod', 'tank', 'mtl' etc., This is all new to me, and reducing by 20 analogs per day for a week is something I am happy about. I am on vacation so I have a lot of time on my hands. I should be able to reduce more when I am back to work.

Well, you're off to a good start.

Mod - The thing that holds the battery and powers the atomizer.
Tank - The tank, which holds the juice, and the atomizer, which vaporizes it.
Coil - Coiled wire that heats up and vaporizes the juice. Generally refers to the piece that you screw into the tank every week or two.
MTL - Mouth-to-lung. You suck vapour into your mouth, hold it there, and then inhale it. Usually involves non-sub ohm resistances (coils over 1 ohm), but not necessarily. Often preferred by quitting smokers because it has a tighter draw (you have to suck harder) that's more similar to cigarettes.
DTL - Direct-to-lung. Inhaling the vapour directly into your lungs. Usually involves sub-ohming (coils under 1 ohm).

 

[suprtrkr]

Well, you're off to a good start.

Mod - The thing that holds the battery and powers the atomizer.
Tank - The tank, which holds the juice, and the atomizer, which vaporizes it.
Coil - Coiled wire that heats up and vaporizes the juice. Generally refers to the piece that you screw into the tank every week or two.
MTL - Mouth-to-lung. You suck vapour into your mouth, hold it there, and then inhale it. Usually involves non-sub ohm resistances (coils over 1 ohm), but not necessarily. Often preferred by quitting smokers because it has a tighter draw (you have to suck harder) that's more similar to cigarettes.
DTL - Direct-to-lung. Inhaling the vapour directly into your lungs. Usually involves sub-ohming (coils under 1 ohm).

^^^ This ^^^

Well done. Some of us (raises hand) are guilty of over-complicating things...

 

[BrotherBob]

I have just finished my first week of vaping with a v2 ex e cigarette. I have managed to cut down from 30 to 9/10 cigarettes a day. Reducing from there is going to be a struggle. The cartridges that came with the device are tobacco flavor at 1.8 strength. I have just ordered more at the 2.4 strength. I will need to start looking for a better device if upping the nicotine doesn't do the trick. Any ideas on where to start my search would be appreciated.
One weird thing about vaping for me is I don't know when to stop. With a cigarette there is no problem since they burn down. Are there any measurements as to how roughly how many puffs = one cigarette - whoops, I mean analog?
Do most who are trying to quit dual use for a while?

Hope the vaping information answers many of your questions.
Might like to read:
http://www.vaporauthority.com/pages/learn
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/a...tte-college-guides-tutorials-information.html
http://guidetovaping.com/category/e-cig-beginner/
http://vapingcheap.com/vaping-101/
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[QcVaper]

Thanks to everyone for the helpful and inspiring replies. I have a v2 ex and a Juul. For whatever reason, I am using the v2 more than the Juul. I still don't understand a lot of the lingo you guys use, 'mod', 'tank', 'mtl' etc., This is all new to me, and reducing by 20 analogs per day for a week is something I am happy about. I am on vacation so I have a lot of time on my hands. I should be able to reduce more when I am back to work.

Don't worry about the jargon yet, there's a section for that in the forums if i remember correctly.
And don't worry about what you're vaping focus on quitting for now and learning (learning is still optional ofc but it's preferable). Most important thing is getting you off the cigs and if those pods/ego help you, who cares ? It's not about what you vape it's about you not smoking anymore and this is why these forums exists.
We're here to help people off the stinkies,help them mentally if needed,we support any and all vapers wether you do mtl,dtl, sub 0hm ,above 0hm (again don't worry about jargon) we only care to help you off the cigs
If you wanna learn i'd suggest the links our dear brotherbob posted since it's the best first step to start learning about it !

 

[spindrift61]

Welcome and I agree with everyone that replied. Yes, most of us did both and for a while too. In order to quit tho honestly you have to want to make this work. It will never be a direct tit for tat. But it is healthier and in time you will learn to enjoy it more. Probably not in the beginning. I tried quitting analogs and vaping a couple times before I succeeded. Two things are what made me do it........a better device/juice and I really wanted to quit. Personally vaping a v2 e-cig would positively not have gotten me off analogs. It took a device that could blow clouds so I felt like I was inhaling something substantial. I also found awesome tasting juice that I loved better than tasting ash (almost the right spelling lol). I now make my own juice with sweets and chocolate and ice cream, yum.