Only Want Variable Volt, What Are My Choices?
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I've about got my heart set on a ProVari. Just have to work it into the budget. Lavatube still has a chance based on price. Knowing me I'll have 20 PV's in short time. I have a tendency to do that with new hobby type activities. 
I've about got my heart set on a ProVari. Just have to work it into the budget. Lavatube still has a chance based on price. Knowing me I'll have 20 PV's in short time. I have a tendency to do that with new hobby type activities.
Just saw a video on lava tube. Has issues with low voltage atomizers. Food for thought.
I'm trying to make the same decision. If you want batteries and a charger the ProVari is $200+. How can it be that much better than the Lavatube? Is that really the best bang for my buck? Please help me understand why a ProVari is so much better. Do other companies sell the ProVari for less?
I like the VVV for the price, it's nice for me and I'm a total newbie. Only disposable from the store until I bought this unit. It pumps out vapor like a big block 454!!
I love my provari but it was the first mod I bought so I can't comment on the other ones out there. The quality of it is top notch and it gets the job done for sure. Plus it's made in the US so I think that alone is worth spending a little extra to support our economy and not China. I have seen other mods that people have and seen a few at our local store and they just didn't feel as well made as the provari. I'm not dissing other mods just giving my 2 cents.
No, a Provari isn't sold for less anywhere. Whether it's the best bang for your buck is debatable, and debated a lot.
Like anything else, at some point you bump into the law of diminishing returns.
Does a $10,000 stereo really sound 4 times better than a $2500 stereo? Not likely.
Does a Provari vape 2 or 3 or 4 times better than a $50-75 Lavatube? No.
So, how much extra is is worth to you to be able to vape a 1.5ohm carto at 5V? Both devices will provide about 12 watts. They just get there differently. The Provari will let you do it with low resistance and the LT wants you to do it with high voltage.
How much extra is it worth to see the ohms read out on the display?
How much extra not to have to push the + button when, after 8 hours of vaping, the battery hits 3.6 volts or less and starts dropping voltage?
How much extra is it worth to buy America?
It's a better built PV, no doubt about it.
It comes with a 2 year warranty. The Vtube has a one year warranty and you can extend that for 3 years at Squaretrade with $10, so I'm not sure that's a huge issue. Although, you do have a much lower chance of ever needing to exercise that warranty.
One thing is indisputable though. You can do at least a $100 worth of extra bragging with a Provari.
Just get the Provari. I wish I would have done that right away. Instead, I got 2 Lavatubes. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but both tubes had to be exchanged already (only had them for maybe a month before each of them broke the first time). If you get the LT, only get it from a vendor that offers 1 year warranty, it'll most likely need it. I love the Provari! Solid build, great 2 yr warranty. With extender cap, you can use AW IMR 18650 batteries. And it looks so sweet!!!!!
I'm also vaccillating about buying a ProVari. I currently own an LRider LavaTube, and I love it. Absolutely love it. But I really, really hate the (2.4-ish Amp on mine) cutoff, and the button has become a bit ...temperamental. Which makes me a bit ...temperamental. It's time for my LT to become my backup PV. I briefly considered replacing it with the v1.5, but a PV without a drip well is a PV owned by someone else. My wife has told me, on several occasions, to just shut up and buy the damn ProVari. But the price tag really is pretty beefy. Of course, the PV is ALSO pretty beefy. Argh - I'm on the fence again. Anyway, loving this thread - lots of food for thought.
They're not everyone's cup of tea, nor should they be. But reading your post...you should just do it. You're the target market, and you won't regret it.
OK, it's time for me to play the "VMax" card. AllAboutVapor, from whom I have purchased three of the original "miscalibrated" (love it) "Black Beast" [tm Freddie 2012 all rights reserved] "Version 1.0", has just lowered the price on them from $128.95 without batteries to $95.95 with two AW IMR 18350 batteries. They also now have them in chrome.
This is a flat-out, no brainer, just do it, I don't care what Sailorman says, all-out GO!
Just do it. Call Courtney and just buy one. A chrome one. If you don't like it (very unlikely) I will buy it from you for what you paid for it.
This device is a beast like few others. Five-amp switch, great 3-digit LED (that you can now turn off), GREAT button, now resets to 3 volts instaed of 5 volts, and is supposedly recalibrated so the voltage displayed more closely matches the actual voltage. (Six used to be more like seven, which is why I bought two more of the originals). And "stacked" IMR batteries are a NON-ISSUE.
This is just a great device. You should buy one. Tomorrow.
VMax by SmokTech
Honorable mention, but just not quite in the same league: the Apollo SS VTube, for about $75.
Apollo VTube Kit
Of course, the ProVari beats them both for all-around greatness, so if you can bring yourself to cough up the dough, then by a V2 tomorrow. But please do something tomorrow. These are your best choices IMO.
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..regards mafig ps VV eGo battery from 3.2 to 4.2V compatible with any cartos from (1.8ohms)LR to (2.7 ohms)SR
most of my purchases from Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail very fast respond in mailing out and very helpful staff(esp Newsunshine)
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Sailorman is going to have a stroke when he sees the last two posts. lolololol
Just look away, Pete! Trust me, just look away! LOL
Sailorman is going to have a stroke when he sees the last two posts. lolololol
Just look away, Pete! Trust me, just look away! LOL
And to me as well .... very much so. He taught me Ohm's Law fer cryin' out loud.
This is why I like and trust SailorMan. He gives you the objective facts (as much as anyone can) and doesn't just spew propaganda. This also makes the decision more complicated because nothing is black and white.
I know this is not my thread, but Ive been following it closely and I thank everyone for their input.
Trollkin: the fact that you want to get a ProVari after the LavaTube makes me think I should probably take the plunge too. The minor inconveniences you describe would drive me nuts as well.
John D in CT: Love your passion, but when someone tells me to just do it it makes me want to just not do it.
RiverNut has been encouraging me to get the ProVari too in PMs and has made some good points.
It makes me wonder will we all just end up at the ProVari sooner or later? Even though I dont understand why it is so great right now, the fact that others have walked in my shoes and have eventually bought the ProVari makes me think that Id be smart to skip the intermediary steps and just get one right awayDamn the expense.
One thing that keeps me from thinking the ProVari is da bomb is the fact that you have to do everything with a single button. Seriously, how much would it take to add a dedicated voltage button or wheel? Ill probably buy one and then theyll come out with that option.
Such is life.'nuff said
John D in CT: Love your passion, but when someone tells me to “just do it” it makes me want to just not do it.
It makes me wonder… will we all just end up at the ProVari sooner or later? Even though I don’t understand why it is so great right now, the fact that others have walked in my shoes and have eventually bought the ProVari makes me think that I’d be smart to skip the intermediary steps and just get one right away—Damn the expense.
One thing that keeps me from thinking the ProVari is da bomb is the fact that you have to do everything with a single buttonSeriously, how much would it take to add a dedicated voltage button or wheel? I’ll probably buy one and then they’ll come out with that option.
'nuff said
" .... when someone tells me to “just do it” it makes me want to just not do it".
You might end up missing out on some pretty good things if you stick to that line of thinking. In this case, I informed the OP that All About Vapor has just officially broken ranks with Smoktech's previous insistence that all vendors sell the Max for a minimum of $128, without batteries and is now offering it for $95.50 with two AW 18350 IMR batteries - arguably the best 18350 IMR's you can buy. This is also the first time I've heard of the VMax's availability in chrome; it has previously come only in black and silver, painted onto brass. I also told him that I would buy it from him for what he paid for it if for some reason he didn't like it. For his sake, I hope he doesn't share your disinclination for enthusiastic exhortations.
" ... will we all just end up at the ProVari sooner or later?
No, we won't. Not all of us. And virtually none of us will end up with just a ProVari as the only device that we use and enjoy. To me, it's simply one of the few must-have (IMO) devices for anyone who wants to own the coolest of the cool, which IMO includes several specific devices:
The Volt (Yes, the Volt)
The ProVari
The VMax
The Twist
The Apollo SS VTube
The Darwin
Any of the Reos, and various other box mods
The Buzz Pro 2
The Bulli atomizer
The Odysseus atomizer
The other cool rebuildable atomizers on the market
The Phiniac tank
The Vivi Nova tank/atty
Any I'm sure a few other very cool things
" .... you have to do everything with a single button .....
To me, that is a virtual non-issue. For the limited amount of time it takes to change settings on a ProVari, VMax, or any other APV that might use a single button, I'll take the cleaner look all day long. You might be in for quite a wait if that is influencing your decision to buy a ProVari.
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