Opinion - Better to Quit or Vape?

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Balthezar

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I had something like 36mg when I first started vaping. I tried 12, 18, etc. Nothing was strong enough for me. However the 36 gave me a headache and made me feel sick rather quickly. I learned that it was just a weak battery, etc that wasn't letting anything really get through on the others. I barely had any vapor.

However this time around.. I just ordered myself a joye ego-t 900MAH type b from Liberty Flights with an assortment of 0mg juices. I have no idea how to use this one but I suppose I shall find out when it gets here :D

Nice one. I believe you will have more luck with this one than you're first one. I just got my regular eGo 2 days ago, and I really like it. There's a section on eGos somewhere here if you want to learn about what works best with it.

Good luck with it :) and you know where to come if/when you have ANY questions/concerns about it. We are all here to help/support each other.

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robblundberg

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Yeah, i definately share the "if you can quit without vaping do it", however i couldn't. I'm absolutely thrilled that i discovered the "world of vaping" lol, i've been analog free for 2 months, feel better, smell better, have actually saved money (even after only 2 months), and i get to "smoke" inside for the first winter lol. Oh and the biggest thing for me? I can "smoke" inside knowing it doesn't bother my fiance's 4 year old son who's asthmatic.

So yeah, I'm thrilled that i found e-cigs. :)
 

Baldr

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There's plenty of anecdotal evidence that contradicts that.

Okay, I'll bite. Are you saying that it's non smokers would benefit healthwise by starting to vape? (That's what I think you are saying, though you didn't provide any of this evidence that you claim to have. If that's the case, I'm interested in the evidence.)

Or are you saying that it's easier to quit smoking if you don't vape? (I don't think that's what you are saying, but if that's your claim, again, I'm interested in hearing the justification.)
 

Jslay00

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Vaping is PROBABLY not as damaging to long-term health as smoking. Anyone who makes another assertion is projecting without enough data. Or they're posting to the ECF from the far future. Is it safe or healthy? Probably NOT. If you smoke, vaping is a very easy way to stop inhaling burning tobacco. ...but then you're inhaling vaporized niquid and whatever filler particles your coils char-up for you.

Personally, after 35 years of 1.5PAD cigarettes plus the occasional pipe or cigar, vaping has been quite beneficial. My bronchitis has cleared up some and I feel like I have a lot more wind. After 6 months, I still wheeze a little if I vape too heavily, but I don't cough all the time, like I used to. I feel like I have a lot more "wind". My hope is that I can cut down my nicotine concentration until I can, perhaps, quit vaping before the damage I've already done to my lungs gets any worse. Until then, I'm enjoying the "benefits" of my new habit.

If you don't smoke, though, why vape?
 

Allen_B

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No advice from a fellow Noob but my perspective on the vape option.

I have been smoking for right at 20 years and oddly, started smoking because dipping was not socially acceptable where I was stationed. I was originally from the Southeast and posted in New England; smokeless tobacco was not as common and was addicted to nicotine at the time. Obviously, not a smart alternative...

Fast forward two decades, I have "successfully" quit tobacco including smoking in the past, including a year-plus period while deployed. I came home and realized I actually enjoyed smoking, initially with cigars which reignited (no pun intended) the nicotine dependence.

Now, I have opted to give a PV a try since I actually DO enjoy "smoking" but have no desire to smell like an ash tray or suffer from the enormous health consequences of analogs, pipes or cigars. I anticipate shifting to 0mg fluid in fairly short term, but my motivation is much more to eliminate the health consequences of analogs, not to eliminate "smoking" per se.

Does this sound like wanting my cake and eating it too? Yes, perhaps. I am taking the plunge into the vape arena for health benefits but also because I am currently "re-dependent" on nicotine but mainly, because I enjoy a good smoke or in this case a good vape (I hope)!

No experience so perhaps no value, just sharing from my personal perspective....

/r

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Jibboolie

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I have no issue with vaping as long as I desire. I wasn't trying to quit smoking - just wanted to be healthier. I love vaping more than I did smoking, and I'll tell you this - in the beginning I went from smoking a pack a day, sometimes more, to smoking maybe a half pack a week while vaping. 3 months later I can't stand the taste of regular cigarettes! Good luck whatever you choose. :)
 

ArcticBeef

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You might want to get a juice with some nicotine in it just in case you go through a hard time and you just can't control yourself. Just don't think that just because you gave in that you might as well give up. Think of it more as you had to take a small break from quitting and go right back to your plan. Too many people figure since they went a week or longer without smoking that when they give in that once they just ruined everything and go straight back to smoking. Try not to have that mentality. Take your small break if you have to maybe a puff or 2 and then go right back to quitting don't go on a binge and start up again. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but if it does don't be discouraged.
 

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You might want to get a juice with some nicotine in it just in case you go through a hard time and you just can't control yourself. Just don't think that just because you gave in that you might as well give up. Think of it more as you had to take a small break from quitting and go right back to your plan. Too many people figure since they went a week or longer without smoking that when they give in that once they just ruined everything and go straight back to smoking. Try not to have that mentality. Take your small break if you have to maybe a puff or 2 and then go right back to quitting don't go on a binge and start up again. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but if it does don't be discouraged.
This is a very good point, and worth remembering.

Vaping changes the entire game of quitting smoking.
The rules you thought you understood no longer apply.

Take your time if you need to.
Let it happen, and it will.

A cigarette now and then, if truly needed for whatever reason, is no longer the end of your progress.
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Baldr

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This is a very good point, and worth remembering.

Vaping changes the entire game of quitting smoking.
The rules you thought you understood no longer apply.

Take your time if you need to.
Let it happen, and it will.

A cigarette now and then, if truly needed for whatever reason, is no longer the end of your progress.
:)

I was a very addicted smoker, and now I'm off the cigs. 30 years, 3 packs a day. And I feel like I've gotten religion. I learned how to quit smoking, in large part, due to ECF.

And of all the things I've learned here, that basic advice was the most important.

Let it happen, and it will.

It doesn't have to happen all at once. Smoke a cig? That's OK. How many did you smoke a month ago? How many have you saved since then? Are you aiming towards a better goal than before?

I was smoking 3 packs a day when I started vaping. I was told "Vape when you want, smoke when you want, keep in mind that the goal is to stop smoking, but don't drive yourself crazy, and don't feel like smoking a cig here and there is failure. Remember all the cigs that you did *not* smoke. Those are the important ones, and if you remember those, you'll be a vaper, not a smoker, before long".

It's worked for me, and that's a miracle. And I haven't even stressed.

Like DC2 said, Let it happen, and it will.
 

Dukatt

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I did the Chantix and it worked for me the first month but the side effects were pretty tough it gave me heartburn to the point it felt like someone was driving a railroad spike thru me ,,,however I did love the vivid dreams :) if they could figure out a way to do away with everything else in that stuff except the part that gave you the dreams ... I would buy a life long supply :)
 

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Only you can really find your own answer.

For me, it is much better to vape than to quit.

I DID quit. A lot of times. (There's usually a chuckle with this statement. Obviously, it was never a permanent quit or I couldn't repeat it.)

But I found that I could go days, weeks, months and on one occasion more than a year without smoking. (I smoked from age 16 or so to age 37, but probably only for 16 or so years total, if you count the "breaks." Quit for at least a month or so most years.) What I couldn't do, and have never managed to do, was not smoke and remain reasonably happy and high-functioning.

I've been a smoker. I've been an ex-smoker. At the end of the day, of the two I liked me, life, better as a smoker.

Until vaping, I didn't think I'd ever get where I am now. I have everything I liked about smoking, and not what I didn't.

Life is as near to perfect as I can imagine. And if you try to take my PV away, I'll kill you. ;-) Just kidding. Sort of.


Best,
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chevelle

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This is one of those threads that has taken wings and become quite an important discussion for a lot of us.

Seems to me that its better to quit smoking without vaping if possible. For many of us though, the traditional methods just don't work. Thats where vaping comes in... and I'm so glad it did.

Its really interesting that, as a PAD+ smoker for over 30 years, I was able to quit cigarettes entirely with vaping and the support here on ECF. Was never able to do that. Before vaping, I remember the cravings from withdrawl...hands shaky, frantic, lightheaded, CONSTANTLY thinking about having a cigarette etc etc. Vaping reduced or eliminated nearly all the withdrawl symptoms practically overnight. Then I reduced my nicotine level over a period of months - Eventually eliminating nic entirely. Thats where I am now. Thats all good.

The interesting thing is that I have been nicotine free for quite some time but have noticed that if I don't have something to vape nearby, I get some of those old withdrawl symptoms again. Not nearly to the degree that tobacco induced but still very real (to me). It has to be the hand-to-mouth, mechanical habit that is still there. That, plus I really enjoy my home made e-liquids. Not a bad thing at all and if I never quit vaping, thats fine and dandy. Just became very apparent how strong the psychological part of habit and addiction is.
 
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