Ordered to stop using my PV by my Doctor
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"I wouldn't advise you to go against your doctors orders BUT..."
I keep seeing that. The bottom line is this. This is an internet forum and is not the place for you to be seeking advice on this obviously MEDICAL matter.
I have a LOT of experience dealing with people on forums and the internet in general. Not regarding E-Cigarettes, but in general, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is not the place to seek medical advice. The people in this forum are heavy advocates of the electronic cigarette, and while I know everyone means well, that does not make for an objective opinion. Please follow your doctors advice and then seek a second opinion if you have doubts about the diagnosis. I'm not saying your PV was to blame, but no-one here is qualified to make that decision, and seeking medical advice on the internet is ALWAYS a BAD idea.
Good luck...
I keep seeing that. The bottom line is this. This is an internet forum and is not the place for you to be seeking advice on this obviously MEDICAL matter.
I have a LOT of experience dealing with people on forums and the internet in general. Not regarding E-Cigarettes, but in general, and I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is not the place to seek medical advice. The people in this forum are heavy advocates of the electronic cigarette, and while I know everyone means well, that does not make for an objective opinion. Please follow your doctors advice and then seek a second opinion if you have doubts about the diagnosis. I'm not saying your PV was to blame, but no-one here is qualified to make that decision, and seeking medical advice on the internet is ALWAYS a BAD idea.
Good luck...
ER doc just giving generic advise to her 100th?? patient of the day/week. Have a proper diagnosis from regular GP and see what's really going on with your body. If your regular doc says no to ecigs ask if you should start smoking analogs instead and you'll be having the real conversation the FDA should be having. Again your GP should be familiar with your history and help with an accurate diagnosis, instead of a quick fix in the ER. They are their to stabilize your condition and refer you to proper continued care, then move on to the next guy/gal who needs immediate help.
And as has been said before. I aint no doctor but I play one on the forum.
And as has been said before. I aint no doctor but I play one on the forum.
Thanks for posting, VRubin.
Still looking for an asthma inhaler with PG listed as one of the ingredients.
Thanks.
Not one poster so far has claimed to be able to give advice on the level of a doctor, and yet here you are to comment that everyone knows nothing. Glad you are a forum and interwebz expert, please troll another forum tyvm.
it usually doesn't list it as propelene glycol it lists it as one of the other names for it...the ones Vrubin mentioned in her post.
If it were me ... it'd be time for a new doctor. Doctors who don't listen to their patients aren't good doctors in my personal opinion and experience.
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Most likely you won't find one since PG is used more as an inactive ingredient in inhalers, from my understanding. If it's in that inhaler, it's most likely in the 'microcrystalline suspension'.
My experience with doctors is if you tell them what triggered your symptom (ie: PV gave me an asthma attack), they will zero in on it rather than look deeper. Bottom line is that breathing is pretty important, I wouldn't do anything to stop it from happening. Follow your Doc's orders but ask for additional testing if your PV only served as a trigger for what you feel could be a bigger medical issue.
Not sayin u shouldn't listen to ur Dr's advice, but I feel most doctors are plain ignorant and just don't care... PLUS, most Dr treat patients according to the Dr's experience. since PV's are just startin to get known, ur Doc doesn't want to give you false information so you were told to stop using it on the safe side... get a second opinion atleast..
I found out that is used in the OTC sprays.
Here is a nasal spray with PG in it:
SinoFresh Healthcare, Inc.|Products: Nasal Mist Ingredients & Directions - Nasal & Sinus Products
Thanks, Kat, but we're looking for inhalers. Stuff that actually is designed to be inhaled into one's lungs.
Oh hmmm. I had the silly idea if you sprayed something into your nose that it may end up in your lungs.
I did ALOT of searching last night and couldn't come across any that did.
Medical Uses
•PG has been used as the aqueous-based chemical additive in asthma inhalers and nebulizers since the 1950s, with no serious side effects known. PG, because of its water-retaining properties, is the compound of choice for delivering atomized medication. It is also a common diluent for injectable medications, constituting 40 percent of the intravenous form of Phenytoin, an anti-seizure drug.
Electronic Cigarettes
•Persons trying to quit smoking have recently turned to the recent invention of electronic cigarettes... While many have questioned the safety of electronic cigarettes, their concerns are directed toward the inconsistent amounts of nicotine, not the PG solution in which it is delivered.
Danger of Inhaling Propylene Glycol | eHow.com Danger of Inhaling Propylene Glycol | eHow.com
•PG has been used as the aqueous-based chemical additive in asthma inhalers and nebulizers since the 1950s, with no serious side effects known. PG, because of its water-retaining properties, is the compound of choice for delivering atomized medication. It is also a common diluent for injectable medications, constituting 40 percent of the intravenous form of Phenytoin, an anti-seizure drug.
Electronic Cigarettes
•Persons trying to quit smoking have recently turned to the recent invention of electronic cigarettes... While many have questioned the safety of electronic cigarettes, their concerns are directed toward the inconsistent amounts of nicotine, not the PG solution in which it is delivered.
Danger of Inhaling Propylene Glycol | eHow.com Danger of Inhaling Propylene Glycol | eHow.com
I know for a fact that asthma inhalers and nebulizer liquids use pg as a inactive ingredient. I almost died from using one. I am severly allergic to pg. The pharmacist and doctor didn't find it as an ingredient, they had to call the company that made the products to ask and yes it is an ingredient in all but 3 inhalers, they use a lactose in place of the pg. Only 1 rescue inhaler doesn't have pg. Maxair, a dry powder inhaler.
I had the same thing as the OP happen to me, but from using an asthma inhaler.
I had the same thing as the OP happen to me, but from using an asthma inhaler.
You're right, they didn't. Nor did I say they did. In fact, I said that I know everyone means well. But the fact remains that this is not the best place for the OP to be asking advice about this. I'm not trolling at all, BTW.
But seriously, if your doctor told you that being a vegan was bad for you, would you think it was the smartest thing to then go straight to a vegan forum asking for advice? It's just not smart to seek second opinions from people who are biased when it comes to your health.
That's always been the problem. General statements about PG use in inhalers in the past, or personal accounts of allergic reactions, but never any proof. Nobody's been able to find proof that can actually be presented to the FDA that PG is indeed used today in asthma inhalers. We've been looking through all kinds of lists of ingredients and not a trace of PG. Thanks all for trying.
Aschmidy, do you have it in writing, from the company? We need evidence. It's one of the critical arguments in defense of e-cigs, that the main ingredient in them is actually being used in medical inhalers that are prescribed to people with lung conditions.
Please post here if you find anything. Thanks again.
I don't have it in writing. But do you really think the FDA doesn't know pg is in inhalers? I think there issue is with the way and how much pg we use is untested.
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