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zoiDman

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Thanks for the link, I was just wandering around here and saw that. Not at all surprised, just further saddened.

What Surprised Me as well of Many who have followed this Lawsuit was Almost Complete Deference Judge Jackson gave the FDA.

Especially with Regards to "Intended Use". Seeing that the FDA didn't commit to Any Guidelines as to how they would determine how something would be "Likely" used with a tobacco Product.

So Basically the FDA could just send OSDIY a Letter and say that they consider their Flavorings to be Likely used with a tobacco Product. So that they Now Fall Under FDA Jurisdiction and Compliance.

And Any tobacco Flavoring that has any Ingredient Made From or Derived From Tobacco is a Tobacco Product. There's also that No New Post August 2016 Tobacco Products thing.

It's Funny. The FSTCA basically Grandfathered in All Cigarettes who's Harm in Not Even Disputable. But e-Cigarettes, who's level of Harm is being shown to be Orders of Magnitude Less, are being Regulated into a de facto Ban.

That just Doesn't Sound like Protecting and Improving Public Health.

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Truth on one side, money, greed and corruption on the other.

Anyway...has anyone used OSDIY Margarita? I was wondering about a starting % for it.

Sorry, I can't help you on the margarita..,but it certainly sounds interesting!
 

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Especially with Regards to "Intended Use". Seeing that the FDA didn't commit to Any Guidelines as to how they would determine how something would be "Likely" used with a Tobacco Product.

So Basically the FDA could just send OSDIY a Letter and say that they consider their Flavorings to be Likely used with a Tobacco Product. So that they Now Fall Under FDA Jurisdiction and Compliance.

You hit the nail right on the head. No guidelines to base intended use on, just card Blanche to impose regulations on anyone they choose without justification. K-mart better get those candy making flavorings off the shelf quick before the FDA busts them. Or at the very least K-mart better card everyone who buys candy making supplies to make sure there 21 or older..

Sad day for us all.
 
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You hit the nail right on the head. No guidelines to base intended use on, just card Blanche to impose regulations on anyone they choose without justification. ...

Sad day for us all.

Yep. And All in the Name of Promoting Public Health.

I posted this in the Deeming Thread...

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The FDA now has a Green Light. And the Warning and Non-Compliance Letters for things like Post August 2016 Products are probably being printed by the 1,000's.
 
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