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[handyman]

My husband took the plunge and bought 3 auto and 1 manual/USB model.

Certainly have buyers remorse. We should have come here 1st and read all the tips. Of course, after reading all the tips we are so confused he may not have made the switch at all, who knows?

The issue he has, besides the strong dislike for the flavor and 18mg strength of the carts he bought, is lack of vapor. Trying all the suggested techniques for vaping. The one that works best is to use the manual battery.

The model he has appears to be a 510 (?) as far as we can tell. It is a 2 piece, battery and cartridge. From what we understand having an atomizer helps increase the vapor. Is that true? If so, can we add one to the batteries we already own?

V2 offers a 30 return and we have requested this, not that we expect it to materialize, they seem shifty in practice. If it does come about, we are open to recommendations for a product that offers better vapor production.

We also want to do this as cheaply as possible, as we are poor folk. He has been smoking Remington tiny cigars since cigarettes went through the roof. We currently spend $40-50 a month on them. Will we need to 'fill our own' with the go-juice to afford to use the ecigs?

Pretty sure he will move on to one of the 'Mod' types as soon as he gets his 'sea legs.' He always does his own auto repairs and radio mods, too. Also, whenever we 'get interested' in anything we end up with 10-15 different styles and models laying around the house.

Appreciate input.

Regards,
C & J
Florida

 

[dormouse]

V2 is a KR808D-1 as is Vapor4Life aka V4L (which has batteries that allow longer drags), and Cigeasy Elegant Easy. And SMokelessImage, Bloogplanet and Halocigs G6 are a different rubberized style. And V2 can use cartomizers from any of those.

"The one that works best is to use the manual battery." Yes exactly. That is why most people here use and recommend manuals. And I recommend pressing the button in 1-2 seconds early, then dragging slowly (ecigs do NOT burn faster when you suck harder - you just dilute your vapor with air), letting up the button right before the end of your drag, then inhale. Unfortunately, if you want a long drag the battery's safety feature may cut you off after 5 seconds (except for the V4L.com batteries which state they have 10-13 second cutoff). With a 5-second cutoff battery I try to keep my early press down to 1 second before I start dragging so I have 4 seconds to drag.


If 18mg is not enough V4L.com has higher nic prefilled cartos and juices. Note - their WOW cartos can get hot on the lips so I recommend a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece instead of the cartomizer's endcap. They have nicotine up to at least 30mg but even 24mg is quite a bit more hit than 18. Cigeasy might also sell higher than 18 for their cartomizers (I believe their cartomizers are for KR808D-1). And I recommend keeping cartos damp to avoid singeing them. I can get 7+ days use out of a good KR8 carto by using thin clear eliquids (20% or less VG, light color liquids).

And you are correct - KR808D-1 are the strongest slim ecigs you can get so if this is not enough for him even with 24mg cartomizers & juice then he needs to go to fat battery models or mods where you can use the hotter LR cartomizers and have enough power and strong enough electronics to support those.

 

[swedishfish]

I'll leave the mods to other members who know way more about them than I do.

You can purchase a Riva ego from Liberty Flights for approx. $30. They also have the cartomizer kit that is $35.00. I would probably get that one. I'd get an additional box of cartomizers and a couple drip tips. Either from there or another vendor.

Joogler has cartomizers and you get a free bottle of juice with your purchase. Use the code ECF5OFF for $5.00 off your first order.

I'd probably get a minimum of 30 ml of juice is sample sizes to start with. The average person vapes between 2/3--5 ml of juice a day depending on their set up.

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[handyman]

Hello dormouse,

Thanks for the reply. Hubby said to tell you he is vaping in the manner you describe. No problem with the 18mg he thinks that may be a little high. With all the practice he did this morning he over nicotined himself and almost passed out. It caused his BG to drop. Live and learn. Whew!

We will check out the names you posted and see what's available. Thank you,
J

 

[swedishfish]

He might like the 5v boxmod for $20

Welcome to Maximum Vapors - E Cig Supplier

Full 3.7V starter kit $30
http://maximumvapors.3dcartstores.com/37-Box-Mod-Full-Starter-Kit_p_15.html

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Hi C & J and welcome to ECF. I'll let dormouse and swedishfish talk about the hardware. Seeing as you're on a tight budget and your hubby enjoys DIY he'd probably enjoy DIY juice AFTER you've gotten some experience. My total costs per week for carto and juice is about $3.00 so it is possible to vape on a budget.
Good Luck, Vapoor.

 

[markfm]

As SwedishFish mentioned, if you can handle something that is less cig sized, the LF Riva Lite 510 kit at $30 after using their "october20" discount is a quite good price. For good vapor and warmth, the boge 2 ohm 510 cartomizers are the easy thing to use (the kit will come with a couple of atomizers, a different way to vape). LF also has a variety of eliquids, different flavors and strengths. LF is out of the boge 2 ohm cartomizers, though they are available elsewhere; they do have smoketech 2 ohm, but I haven't used those before, have no opinion.

Then again, if you are getting the swing of the 808 batteries, no reason not to use them. I started with KR808D-1 equipment, liked it a lot. You can pick up some extra prefilled cartomizers, or some blanks plus eliquid to fill/refill. Vapor4life is running constant sales right now -- check the PIF Deals and Steals thread (my signature links to PIF) to find out what is running right now; all v4l products are KR808D-1.

 

[dormouse]

At least sign up at Vapor4Life - they have frequent sales, especially around holidays and big sporting events. I only shop the sales. Tried a lot of their prefills (samplers and whole packs) and there were many flavors I hated but I found my 2 main vapes there (WOW juices).


And Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights.com is my first and main big-battery system because the Riva 510 kits and SE batteries there are 3.7v (same as KR808D-1 like V2 which is only 4.2v right off the charger like any 3.7v battery). The new SE kits are nice with the 3-click enable/disable. I use 510 stuff on it and use a 99 cents adapter from Goodprophets to vape my KR8 cartos on it.

Re getting over-nicced - what is BG? Typical over-nicced symptoms are headache, rapid or irregular heartbeat, overall hazy ill feeling, cold fingers. I eventually lowered my nicotine so I could vape in bursts if I wanted without getting too much nic. But you do lose TH with lower nic. Another time to watch for over-nicced is when you are testing juice samples.

BTW on a manual KR8 you can use a standard resistance dSE901 atomizer and drip tip to test new juices. (drip tips not recommend on auto batteries and you still have to be care with manual KR8's the have a hole in the threaded end like V2 and V4L though some V4L batteries seem to have it blocked)

 

[mynameisrob]

My guess is BG is blood glucose but I could be completely wrong

You got some great recommendations to help you out. I think you would both really like the Riva kit. It will give a lot more vapor and much longer battery life than the v2. I would get a bigger battery PV like the Riva at least for your husband bc the way you described him. I think a slim ecig might not be enough for him or he will get tired of it quickly. A Riva or similar bigger battery PV would at least hold him over for alittle longer before he would want something else. Its a great PV and can use many different attys/cartos.
Another option I would consider is the E-Power. Im on a tight budget too so I know how you feel.(Just graduated college and I pay for school myself) When I started it was between the Riva,E-Power, and kGo. (kGo is another similar 3.7V PV like the Riva SE and E-Power)
Even though the Riva has an AWESOME price I went with the E-Power. While its alittle more expensive to start, the maintenance is cheaper so I thought it was better in the long run for a budget. The E-Power batteries cost $4 compared to Riva batteries that are $14-20, and they last longer before they need to be replaced. Plus everything is replaceable on the E-Power so that also helps keep costs down.
So that would be another option also that would work well on a budget. Either one I think youll be very happy with and can fit it a budget.
Goodluck with everything!!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Re getting over-nicced - what is BG?

Blood Glucose??

 

[handyman]

Yes, BG is blood glucose. You all got it right!

 

[handyman]

At least sign up at Vapor4Life - they have frequent sales, especially around holidays and big sporting events. I only shop the sales. Tried a lot of their prefills (samplers and whole packs) and there were many flavors I hated but I found my 2 main vapes there (WOW juices).


And Riva 510 from Liberty-Flights.com is my first and main big-battery system because the Riva 510 kits and SE batteries there are 3.7v (same as KR808D-1 like V2 which is only 4.2v right off the charger like any 3.7v battery). The new SE kits are nice with the 3-click enable/disable. I use 510 stuff on it and use a 99 cents adapter from Goodprophets to vape my KR8 cartos on it.

Re getting over-nicced - what is BG? Typical over-nicced symptoms are headache, rapid or irregular heartbeat, overall hazy ill feeling, cold fingers. I eventually lowered my nicotine so I could vape in bursts if I wanted without getting too much nic. But you do lose TH with lower nic. Another time to watch for over-nicced is when you are testing juice samples.

BTW on a manual KR8 you can use a standard resistance dSE901 atomizer and drip tip to test new juices. (drip tips not recommend on auto batteries and you still have to be care with manual KR8's the have a hole in the threaded end like V2 and V4L though some V4L batteries seem to have it blocked)

My wife signed us up at v4l, and I got over the over nic incident too! I guess what I'm looking for is a way to get more vapor. I get enough TH, if not too much, but I need more smoke (vapor) to inhale and exhale.

I would also like to find stuff that's compatible with the kit (V2) I already have. Things like manual batteries that my charger will charge, and vaporizers that will fit the batteries that will fit my chargers

Thanks for the help, we would be lost without it!
C & J

 

[CCC]

You can buy some e-juice at a lower nic level, fill up the empty carts that you have laying around, or even empty out the full ones and refil them with your juice, and continue with what you have until you save up some more money to get a different set up. Also get a juice that has a high VG content so there is more vapour.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

In regards to juice the % of VG in the juice will dictate the amount of vapor. PG dictates the amount of taste and TH. Most juices are 70/ 30 PG/ VG or 80/ 20 PG/ VG. VG is very thick and sometimes clogs delivery devices. You can buy VG at Walmart in the Pharmacy Section. Make sure it's labelled USP- means it's food grade. Realize the vapor comes from our bodies and not the juice. Dehydration is common amongst new vapers and can lead to issues. I drink 2 large glasses in the a.m. and 2 liters per day.

My wife signed us up at v4l, and I got over the over nic incident too! I guess what I'm looking for is a way to get more vapor. I get enough TH, if not too much, but I need more smoke (vapor) to inhale and exhale.

I would also like to find stuff that's compatible with the kit (V2) I already have. Things like manual batteries that my charger will charge, and vaporizers that will fit the batteries that will fit my chargers

Thanks for the help, we would be lost without it!
C & J

 

[handyman]

That is quite a bit of information to assimilate quickly, we will lay back and let it gel. Recently we switched to Linux OS from Windows and that took a toll on our brains. We are pushing 70 and it takes a little longer to adapt to change. I will say, I haven't booted into Windows in 2 weeks and don't miss it, at all. If you haven't tried Linux I suggest Mint 11 for a starter. The video display is 10,000 x's better than Windows on it's best day.

The 'helper' underlining for the acronyms is a big help. This is a very well put together forum glad to be here.

Regards, j

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

You're very welcome and yes it is overwhelming. Here's a link to a dictionary of Ecig terms:
E-Cig Glossary. Definitions, abbreviations, and meanings. | eCigology
Good Luck, Vapoor.
P.S. at 60 I'm not moving too quick these days either
Have a nice weekend.

That is quite a bit of information to assimilate quickly, we will lay back and let it gel. Recently we switched to Linux OS from Windows and that took a toll on our brains. We are pushing 70 and it takes a little longer to adapt to change. I will say, I haven't booted into Windows in 2 weeks and don't miss it, at all. If you haven't tried Linux I suggest Mint 11 for a starter. The video display is 10,000 x's better than Windows on it's best day.

The 'helper' underlining for the acronyms is a big help. This is a very well put together forum glad to be here.

Regards, j

 

[bruiser]

With the fat battery models, like the Riva 510, you can use low resistance cartomizers, such as the eGo Mega Dual Coil Cartomizer, aka EMDCC, available at Mad Vapes. They hold a lot of liquid, and they produce.

 

[2muchcoffee]

Welcome C & J,
I also started out with V2. If you can't return the kit, minimize the cost by buying 510 to 901 adaptor (about $1). Then you can you blank 510 cartos to fill your juices (though V2 sells blanks, they are 808 and the quality was not too good). Once everything soaks in, look for various batteries (all the above suggestions by other members). One more tip; once you use all your V2 cartos, save and clean them and reuse for tasting new juices. BTW, V2 batteries are not sealed so make sure not to overfill cartos. Good Luck.

 

[swedishfish]

My wife signed us up at v4l, and I got over the over nic incident too! I guess what I'm looking for is a way to get more vapor. I get enough TH, if not too much, but I need more smoke (vapor) to inhale and exhale.

I would also like to find stuff that's compatible with the kit (V2) I already have. Things like manual batteries that my charger will charge, and vaporizers that will fit the batteries that will fit my chargers

Thanks for the help, we would be lost without it!
C & J

I suggested the Ego and box mod because you/your wife mentioned that you were thinking of sending your kit back. Which to me, is a good idea. No point in throwing money at something that's not working for you.

The Riva and box mod are both 510's and you and your wife could share cartomizers.

I wouldn't revolve my new purchase around something that's not particularly working for you.

I also think that for someone who has smoked for many years like you have, a 5v mod is going to do the most toward recreating the smoking sensation you get from cigs. Higher voltage does that.

With the ego for you wife, it's no fiddling with little batteries. Ego batteries last 7+ hours each. She can get a bigger cartomizers for it and it'll last her all day.

 

[Newwell]

Welcome C & J,
I also started out with V2. If you can't return the kit, minimize the cost by buying 510 to 901 adaptor (about $1). Then you can you blank 510 cartos to fill your juices (though V2 sells blanks, they are 808 and the quality was not too good). Once everything soaks in, look for various batteries (all the above suggestions by other members). One more tip; once you use all your V2 cartos, save and clean them and reuse for tasting new juices. BTW, V2 batteries are not sealed so make sure not to overfill cartos. Good Luck.

My hubby & I started using v2 e-cigs 6 days ago with great results & haven't smoked at all. I'm not going to "blow smoke up anyone's a#$ " & say it's been a breeze, but I am getting through it (1.5 pk @ day for 40+ years).
Anyway, I like my v2 but am overwhelmed by all the info about 510's to 901's, filling cartridges, etc. We are using the prefilled, but can see where it would be quite a savings to fill our own. Are you saying that the prefilled cartridges can be cleaned & refilled? Any suggestions or info would be very much appreciated.
Frank & Beth