Out of all the mods and toppers you own.... What is your favorite setup?

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MiamiMom63

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OK, gotta dig the builds but I'm still wrapping my head around the concept of micro coils. Stop me if I'm wrong but, ohms is basically measured as gauge of wire over the length of the wire, with higher gauge (ie: 32 > 28) making a higher resistance rating.

So, if you take the same length of 32ga it has a higher resistance than 28ga. Also why longer extension cords must have a lower gauge (larger diameter) to handle the same voltage and amp draw without literally burning them up (ie: the wire breaking from thermal failure, which is what breaks coils).

I guess what I'm getting at is how do you use the comparable length of wire to make the micro coils (even considering that duals cut the resistance in half) and keep the coil:

A: Large enough to give the surface area for heating that micros are known for

B: Low enough in resistance to pull that 1.3ohms

C: Still large enough to put in what appears to be a rather close to 2mm wick with the set up.

Sorry about the long post I've just been interested in a while and not found the info I was looking for... 70+ hrs a week at work doesn't help. Just hoping you've got a link or a smack on the head lol

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Forgive me if I'm totally not scientific with all the ohms and watts lingo. The best way I think I can answer this is with microcoils, they are smaller in diameter and tightly wound, and although it looks like 2 mm cotton, it generally isn't more than a very thin piece much smaller that expands greatly once saturated. That is why cotton is the best wick for microcoils. I've been using .5 mm ribbon wire for a little more surface coverage at 9 wraps, and just a very thin threading of cotton. And let I wrap the cotton around the post and let a small portion lie on top of the coil for extra wicking. Some just lay the cotton under the coil and don't even feed it through the coil which can only work well with good cotton that absorbs so well. I'm not sure if this explains it but it's the best I know to describe the way microcoils work so well. And since the cotton absorbs so well, it really takes a very dry wick to get burned. But even still if I get a slight burn it is still okay after saturating again because there is always some moisture left enough in the surrounding cotton that I've never had it flame up or anything. Cotton just wicks so amazingly and is easy to replace and keep reusing the coil after a dry burn.
 

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OK, gotta dig the builds but I'm still wrapping my head around the concept of micro coils. Stop me if I'm wrong but, ohms is basically measured as gauge of wire over the length of the wire, with higher gauge (ie: 32 > 28) making a higher resistance rating.

So, if you take the same length of 32ga it has a higher resistance than 28ga. Also why longer extension cords must have a lower gauge (larger diameter) to handle the same voltage and amp draw without literally burning them up (ie: the wire breaking from thermal failure, which is what breaks coils).

I guess what I'm getting at is how do you use the comparable length of wire to make the micro coils (even considering that duals cut the resistance in half) and keep the coil:

A: Large enough to give the surface area for heating that micros are known for

B: Low enough in resistance to pull that 1.3ohms

C: Still large enough to put in what appears to be a rather close to 2mm wick with the set up.

Sorry about the long post I've just been interested in a while and not found the info I was looking for... 70+ hrs a week at work doesn't help. Just hoping you've got a link or a smack on the head lol

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
****
About analogs vs ecigs :
Vapor Test Results by Korea Electronic Cigarette Association

Plenty of microcoil discussion here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...271-micro-coils-increase-vapor-flavor-th.html

I built coils ranging from 0.025" to 3/32" in toppers ranging from 14.5mm to 22mm to see what suits my style. I find pros and cons to different coil diameters. Coil positioning, air hole size, etc should also be considered when looking for your gold standard build.
 

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In order of favorites:

Provari/IBtanked carto tank. Mostly used with Boba's Bounty.
iTaste MVP/IBTanked carto tank (I borrow a V2 when at work and set it at 8 watts). Mostly used with Vapor Chef's Honey Pearry.
iTaste SVD/IBTanked carto tank. Used with NicQuid's Day Break.

I've tried microcoils with cotton and while it truly is delicious, ALL of my juice, even my apocalypse stash, is all 2.4 mg nic. That would destroy me in a RDA. To replace them all with 6 or even 12 mg would be waaaay to costly. And also, I cannot justify the $ for the amount of juice RDA's go through. Otherwise, yes, they are great.

I dripped using an old 510 joyetech atomizer for around five months back in the day before I discovered carto tanks. The thing I hated the most about dripping was the hit of death. I could sense it coming, and would drip accordingly. But constantly dripping, though delicious, was not what I was wanting out of vaping. So that's why I stick with carto tanks.

RSSTs and RBAs such as the Kayfun, Russian, etc., I have absolutely ZERO desire to use.

Go for it buddy! What ever works for you:) I prefer RTA's as I don't have to drip and redrip which I just find annoying:)!! Carto tanks are the ....! Great VTF!
 

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OK, gotta dig the builds but I'm still wrapping my head around the concept of micro coils. Stop me if I'm wrong but, ohms is basically measured as gauge of wire over the length of the wire, with higher gauge (ie: 32 > 28) making a higher resistance rating.

So, if you take the same length of 32ga it has a higher resistance than 28ga. Also why longer extension cords must have a lower gauge (larger diameter) to handle the same voltage and amp draw without literally burning them up (ie: the wire breaking from thermal failure, which is what breaks coils).

I guess what I'm getting at is how do you use the comparable length of wire to make the micro coils (even considering that duals cut the resistance in half) and keep the coil:

A: Large enough to give the surface area for heating that micros are known for

B: Low enough in resistance to pull that 1.3ohms

C: Still large enough to put in what appears to be a rather close to 2mm wick with the set up.

Sorry about the long post I've just been interested in a while and not found the info I was looking for... 70+ hrs a week at work doesn't help. Just hoping you've got a link or a smack on the head lol

****
Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
****
About analogs vs ecigs :
Vapor Test Results by Korea Electronic Cigarette Association

So the easiest way for me to answer this is just to tell you how I do it.

A & B: If you want 1.3 ohm, I usually do about 10 - 12 wraps on a 1.4 mm or 2 mm drill bit (9 - 10 wraps on a 2mm)

C: Try inserting the cotton and put a cloud underneath it as well I find this wicks better and holds more juice.

The other way I have done it is to put a layer of cotton on the deck, soak it with juice and then fold it over your coil, this works nice for me:)
 

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I had to lower my nic due to major high blood pressure problems so I had no choice in the matter. I had to get satisfactory throat hit with low 6 mg nic, and the only decent way I found to do it was with rebuildable dripping atomizer. I tried with no success to use a genesis style tank atomizer but I know if I practice more it would work. I also don't care for the hassle of dripping but for now it's the only way I can be satisfied with my low nic. I hope to get comfy with a tank setup when I can. I hope my all day Vape flavors taste as good in them when I do. As far as going through a lot of juice, I only use one coil and dripping makes me go through a lot less juice. And since I make my own juice dirt cheap, I don't care even if I did go through a lot as long as I'm vaping happy. Everyone uses a certain juice or setup depending on their personal reasons and there is no wrong way to vaping as long as you stay satisfied and off the cigs.
 

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Bland...just so bland. Ego-t 1300mah from Discount Vapors (short fat ego) and (don't laugh) a generic Discount Vapors bcc clearo with a evod head. These things just work, all day every day.

I'm right there with you. I'm new, and have had no problems whatsoever with this kind of set up. I got some evod clearomizers with my kit, and then ordered some of those same Discount Vapors clearos. I like them just as well as the evods, and you sure can't beat the price!
 

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OK, gonna try to pull 3 related replies together so forgive me if this is a bit confuzzled. Real quickly, thanks Miami, emus and egal for the replies as they help a lot. Here we go...

Forgive me if I'm totally not scientific with all the ohms and watts lingo.

The best way I think I can answer this is with microcoils, they are smaller in diameter and tightly wound, and although it looks like 2 mm cotton, it generally isn't more than a very thin piece much smaller that expands greatly once saturated.

I've been using .5 mm ribbon wire for a little more surface coverage at 9 wraps, and just a very thin threading of cotton.

And let I wrap the cotton around the post and let a small portion lie on top of the coil for extra wicking. *edit* And since the cotton absorbs so well, it really takes a very dry wick to get burned. But even still if I get a slight burn it is still okay after saturating again *edit* Cotton just wicks so amazingly and is easy to replace and keep reusing the coil after a dry burn.

OK, about the tech lingo, the only reason I use it is to help keep everything straight. And the comment about the 1.3ohm dual-micro coil is just because that's pretty close to my sweet spot and I've had issues doing dual coils on my devices. My reply to you specifically, Miami, was because I have all the materials you are using as well as the 2 devices that you are building the coils for.

Talking about how the cotton expands when saturated makes the look of your coils make much more sense. The 32ga kanthal I have is .2 mm and I have been wanting to try twisted wire so that will kill two tests at one shot as well as approximate your set up, good win-win lol.

I'll have to get into a forum like emus mentioned for a walkthrough with pictures or maybe (hint, hint) get lucky the next time you build a set up.

Plenty of microcoil discussion here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...271-micro-coils-increase-vapor-flavor-th.html

I built coils ranging from 0.025" to 3/32" in toppers ranging from 14.5mm to 22mm to see what suits my style. I find pros and cons to different coil diameters. Coil positioning, air hole size, etc should also be considered when looking for your gold standard build.

I think I see where you are going with this, just wrapping my head around the deck sizes you mentioned since I never thought of them that way.

I think I follow in terms of heat over the space, in relation to air hole size and coil size when talking about the amount of heat generated by the coil as it's fired when you light it up to hit it.

So the easiest way for me to answer this is just to tell you how I do it.

A & B: If you want 1.3 ohm, I usually do about 10 - 12 wraps on a 1.4 mm or 2 mm drill bit (9 - 10 wraps on a 2mm)

C: Try inserting the cotton and put a cloud underneath it as well I find this wicks better and holds more juice.

The other way I have done it is to put a layer of cotton on the deck, soak it with juice and then fold it over your coil, this works nice for me:)

I think I get most of this, I just don't quite get the cloud thing in "c". I guess you are talking about a small piece that's just left on the top deck attached to the coil.

The last method sounds like it may not be stable enough as I use my mod at work and it does a pretty fair amount of bouncing around.

Thanks for all the help, I'll check out the other forum post and start experimenting.


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Emus... holy crap 993pgs long!! Time to get reading!!

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Fogging out my Bulldog with an Igo-W on a k101 or an I30 when I don't have time to drip.
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About analogs vs ecigs :
Vapor Test Results by Korea Electronic Cigarette Association

I only read a few pages. I like roughly 1.2 ohm single coil in a 14.5 mm topper the best. 20 to 22 mm chamber seems to produce a bit lower quality vapor in typical genny style or RDA. My twisted 30GA makes 1.2 ohms when wrapped 8 times around 3/32" drill bit. My sxd style micro 28GA meters 1.5 ohms when ID is 0.055", about 11 wraps, 0.150" coil height. Both are nice coils.
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Reo Grand with an A7 at .8-.9 ohms cotton 70/30 PG/VG juice.
Provari Mini with an A7 at 1.5 ohms cotton same type of juice.

Both are fantastic vapes. I love my A7s but since they are getting scarce, I use RDAs. I like screw top RDAs. Bottom air fed is best, but as long as the air hole lines up with the coil I'm a happy vaper.
 

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Reo Grand w/ modified Igo-L bottom feeder. 1.3 ohm nano coil. Plumes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I only wish the Igo-L had holes in the post similar to the Igo-s........
WHAT? YOU WOKE ME UP!! D:<

Hmmm.... maybe i will give dripping another shot but i find i just don't get the throat hit i want and i like a good thump!
An analogy for what you just said:
Hmmm... maybe i will give breathing another shot but i find i just don't get the breath i want and i like a good breath!

lol I promise you, dripping is where the throat hit is at bro.
nothing gives a better throat hit than a small chamber RDA.
 
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K100 (silver) 18350 mode topped with my 2014 addition Kayfun Lite Plus.
Boy did I not know what I was missing until the Kayfun came in the mail the other day! Compared to the cartos I was using I'm loving all my juices 10x more can't put it down :vapor:

I agree I'm almost done using cartos since I got my KFL, just need to buy 2 more and I'm set
 
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